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Post# 34188   3/6/2008 at 20:39 (5,893 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Just for fun, as I prepare to spa the new LX, a visual survey of the major units.

16 bolts and apart it comes to this state.

Topsides.


Post# 34190 , Reply# 1   3/6/2008 at 20:50 (5,893 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Bottom sides

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The motor comes out before bedtime for a once-over tomorrow.

4 bolts to release the rubber sealing diaphram. 3 more bolts to free the motor from its own rubber shock mounts around the diaphram.

If anyone would like specific part's details posted please say so as the LX goes back together over the weekend, shiny & cleaned.

Not surprising perhaps but the cast aluminum ends, the motor and especially the cordwinder are the heaviest parts. Without them the LX is as light as a big feather. :-)

Dave.


Post# 34191 , Reply# 2   3/6/2008 at 20:59 (5,893 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
The main portion of the LX

when disassembled always reminds me of a stationary or traction boiler. Just the steamer in me.

Rick


Post# 34194 , Reply# 3   3/6/2008 at 21:29 (5,893 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Yes indeedy do.

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The firebox, the steam chamber. If ya packed the bag cage with straws you surely got a boiler simulation. LOL

Or, the nuclear powerplants Ford was imagining for the Nucleon atomic dream car...well, at least Chrysler actually built the Turbine Car, 30 of em. or was it 33? Still have the 1/24 scale Johaan plastic model kit under a plastic dust bubble. Picked up the 1/18 diecast at the Chrysler Museum last year.

I feel a model car photo op coming on. Stop me now......


Post# 34208 , Reply# 4   3/7/2008 at 07:05 (5,893 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
If you don't start a model car thread, I will.

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Can't wait to see the results of your LX project, and I have tons of 1:18 scale cars, had a bunch of 1:24 cars, but when I was younger and stupid, I gave them away in 1975!

Post# 34358 , Reply# 5   3/8/2008 at 22:01 (5,891 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
LX Cordwinder survey

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Between the 5 LXs here there are 4 variations of cordwinder. Like Charles and others, I'm sure, I have a fascination with minute details like this.

Given that the LX has a different plug socket than an XXX/30 and the E/AE have a swing open cordwinder like the LXI, I have to assume all these LX winders are correct (or retrofitted) for a given moment in time over the short 3.5 year run of the LX.

#1 on the left has the Electrolux logo stamped in relief. I have two of these, one on a first version LX with the red/yellow side strip.

#3 & #4 on the right in hammertone have the logo similarly stamped in relief.
All of these are stamped Type T Cordomatics made by the Vacuum Cleaner Corporation of Philadelphia PA.

#2 however differs from this pattern. It has the logo raised from the surface with slightly smaller letters. It came on the recent birthday version one LX with the low serial number, currently undergoing a Spa Makeover, with the polished plug cover & hose recepticle. (it should have been #1 in the photo but...)
Also, this Benjamin Reel of Cleveland OH - Model 8850-3 - has the instructions either side of the exhaust clamp stamped into the housing. All my other cordwinders have the stick on label instructions.

Yes, Felix is not camera shy.



Post# 34359 , Reply# 6   3/8/2008 at 22:06 (5,891 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Closeup of the two different chrome letterings.

Anyone else wanna chime in to confirm or correct my obvious conclusions of which cordwinder goes with which LX?

Have I just got 'way too much time on my hands in this snowstorm?


Post# 34382 , Reply# 7   3/9/2008 at 08:43 (5,891 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
That's interesting...

To my recollection, I've not seen a chrome plated winder with the lettering stamped in relief. I've only seen them raised. Sorry to not be any help as to which goes with what. Did not know the other even existed! Also, only knew about the cord-o-matics "model T", (I think) who was this Benjamin Co.?

Post# 34389 , Reply# 8   3/9/2008 at 09:24 (5,891 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
I just find it interesting that there are 4 types over the 3

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It WAS an option but I can't imagine spending that kinda dough for such a high end, high style vacuum and not including the winder. It is possible a dealership would fit the LX plug lead to a trade-in XXX winder for the customer. (Is this why so many XXXs have no cordwinder?)

I know which one came on which vacuum 'cause I keep notes. So back on they will go...

#2 goes with the oldest 1952 LX. Next LX will get one of the #1s.

Second #1 goes to the the next higher serial number 1954 plain chrome side strip.

#3 to the next SN and #4, the E style, on the last LX before the LXI.

These variations are why I 'need' 6 LXs. LOL I luvs me the Luxs...

Heck, it could be worse...it would be daunting to be collecting every Constellation color variation ever produced. I leave that to Tom and other Hoover Afficianados.


Post# 34417 , Reply# 9   3/9/2008 at 18:25 (5,890 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I also have never seen the chromeplated winder with the lettering in relief. I'd say you have something a bit rare there.

The chrome ones with the raised lettering are earlier and the blue ones with the lettering in relief are later. Just because a certain version of the LX came with a certain type of winder doesn't necessarily mean that's the one that came with it originally. Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items.

n.b., the cord winders for the AE, E and F have lettering in relief while all the old chrome XXX winders I've ever seen have raised lettering. So again, the chrome version with the lettering in relief is an oddity.

As for the two blue cord winders, the one with the stand-up rim is later, but there is a bit of a mystery there: I have also seen the earlier-style cord winder on the LXI flip-open winder. Go figger!



Post# 34418 , Reply# 10   3/9/2008 at 18:30 (5,890 days old) by charles~richard ()        

P.S. The very earliest chromeplated winder for the XXX said "Cordomatic" on the rear instead of the Electrolux logo, and it's in raised lettering.



Post# 34424 , Reply# 11   3/9/2008 at 19:32 (5,890 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Just to throw yet another variable into the mix ... I also have one of the early hammertone-blue cord winders, the type without the standup ring, with raised letters ... on a late blue-trim XXX!

Post# 34428 , Reply# 12   3/9/2008 at 20:47 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
So the variations are as endless as the pile of cordwinder p

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I'm with you here, Charles. "Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items."

"never seen the chromeplated winder with the lettering in relief. I'd say you have something a bit rare there." Well dang, I'll keep that one on the freshly Spa-d birthday LuX, then. Even though it probably dates to the time of the blue reels and mid to late LXs...

Another variation between the two manufacturers...the knurled nut on the Type T from Vacuum Cleaner Corp, Phila. has straight grooves. The Benjamin Reel has a diamond pattern knurl. It's a snap to swap out the short cord to XXX or LX or whatever model end receptor - under that small silver 'bike bell' housing are twist connectors to the ring contact leads inside the Cordwinder shell. It's equally easy to mix, switch and match the parts - such as shell halves - between both makes, as anyone who has opened their cordreel to rehab the spring recoil or replace a split cord well knows. I guess the authenticity rule of thumb is to mate cordwinders dictated by plug end to appropriate era model machines and put the best one on the most deserving machine within that group.

Got one XXX with a chrome Electrolux reel. Will be keeping my eyes peeled for a reel with Cordomatic stamped across it for the other XXXs. My LXI flip-open has the stand-up rim as does my AE which has the chrome ring around the shell seam.

Last bit of Cord Winder trivia...This same AE style winder is used on the brown Canadian Z57, painted a matching brown, spring loaded with no latch and it flips down for access to the exhaust port.

Dave


Post# 34431 , Reply# 13   3/9/2008 at 21:20 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Began putting LeX Luther back together this afternoon.

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Fot that shall be his name...

This version #1 ejector system (no dial) of the LX is the first one I've opened up that has the 'airframe' green underpaint. all the rubber is in great supple shape. The only place you will find fine dust collected is the lower left mid size well under the rubber diaphram. The hose from the nozzle bleed leads to this well. Dust can pass no further through the pneumatic system. The black component that seats on this well could be termed a 'slave' valve. Connected internally to the large well, it causes the large diaphram to slowly collapse as bag airflow decreases, eventually causing the catch pin to withdraw from the bag ejector trip lever. Residual chamber suction holds the bag in place a few seconds after the door flips down, as the motor winds down.


Post# 34432 , Reply# 14   3/9/2008 at 21:22 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Components installed

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There is no part for the small cast well. Something else may have been envisoned and rejected by engineering.

Post# 34433 , Reply# 15   3/9/2008 at 21:27 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The haunting beauty of the LX bag cage.

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Takeing progress photos for my own files I was struck by this flashless image.

From the bottom through the ejector slide opening...


Post# 34434 , Reply# 16   3/9/2008 at 21:28 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Top side. less roboticly menacing. :-)

Post# 34435 , Reply# 17   3/9/2008 at 21:31 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Now for somethings completely different.

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Having snowblowed 3 times on Saturday while the storm raged I only had to snowblow once this morning since the sun has shone all day.

Estimate the sidewalls to be almost 3 feet accumulation since last midweek.


Post# 34437 , Reply# 18   3/9/2008 at 21:51 (5,890 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
2nd different thing.

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It had to happen sometime. I'd made sure of the stabilty of the unit when I put it up - it's bolted to two wall studs up top.

Was typing away and heard an odd clanging noise and a squeak. Turned around to see this! Fearless Felix let his curiosity get the better of his common sense and made it all the way up those wire shelves. That had to hurt those little furry feets. He couldn't figure out how to get down...or how to get to the final Connie shelf above- that could have been a disasterous avalanche of bouncing Hoovers. Not so LOL! It's also much higher in the air than a screen door frame so he wouldn't jump to the floor. There's no comfortable place to lounge what with open wire shelves so he sat up there whimpering for help. As I came up close he leapt into my arms purring.

Damn, he's a cutie. The Gawds and Hector only know what he gets up to when I'm not around. Or perhaps he only does this extreme sport kinda stuff when I'm around to be entertained. LOL.


Post# 34485 , Reply# 19   3/10/2008 at 22:32 (5,889 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Meanwhile, back at the workbench..er...kitchen table...

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Bag door just before final buff. Just can't get those pesky scratches out. :-(

Post# 34486 , Reply# 20   3/10/2008 at 22:36 (5,889 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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What the hose sees as it approaches for final docking maneuvers.

Post# 34515 , Reply# 21   3/11/2008 at 06:27 (5,889 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Great pics Dave, especially the snow and Felix ones. The in depth Lux pics are quite informative too.

Post# 34759 , Reply# 22   3/14/2008 at 22:01 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
It's Debut time...

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First off, comparison shot of the 1952 LX and the 1955 LXI.

The Tool Caddy is reversable so I like to show off the polished plug cover on the LX, while featuring the LXI's blue plastic floor tool and the side opening Cordwinder.

Sometime over the course of the LX run the caddy's attachment for the upholstery nozzle was changed from two spring clips (as shown in the 1952 Manual) to one and so the nozzle placement orientation changes. Must have saved a fortune for the Company bean counters. :-)



Post# 34760 , Reply# 23   3/14/2008 at 22:08 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The two do look quite smart together.

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Staging the supplied and optional accesories...

Post# 34761 , Reply# 24   3/14/2008 at 22:09 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The 1952 Owner's Manual picture.

Post# 34762 , Reply# 25   3/14/2008 at 22:19 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
This was fun.

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Using what I've got and tossing in a few extras such as the Floor Polisher carton that turns into a carryable caddy, the snappy chrome Vaporizor with the Electrolux logo stamped on the side and the Serviceman's Kit for adjusting the LX to the new owner's specific home conditions with the Basement & Attic Key.



Post# 34764 , Reply# 26   3/14/2008 at 22:48 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The Fantasticly Futuristic Floor Polisher

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To wind down this LX thread...

Three versions of the floor polisher.

Gray Hammertone for the XXX/30.
Pale blue Hammertone for the LX series.
Blue Hammertone for the late E and early AE.


Post# 34766 , Reply# 27   3/14/2008 at 23:03 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The Turb-o-tool Power Unit

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Blue Hammertone for the AE...with drill chuck.
Gray & Ivory with turquoise accents on the shampoo tank of the Rug Washer attachment, for the G series, etc.

The Quest continues for the heavy metal Floor Polisher foot for the Turb-o-tool in Hammertone blue...and ivory. too.

Thanks for watching, folks.

Dave


Post# 34770 , Reply# 28   3/14/2008 at 23:47 (5,885 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Oh, ĈOLIAN-DAVE, I am just madly in love with you! At LAST, another kindred soul who is as obsessed with the tiny intricacies and mysteries of the Electrolux as I am.

(There are two other similarly affected souls but who unfortunately are both persona non grata of late, to everyone's loss. But that's another story.)

I am thrilled to see your LX "Beauty Shot" replicating that glorious shot in the front cover of the instruction manual. Have you ever seen my similar effort on my LX page? See link.

And of course you know how every sighting of a floor polisher makes my heart go pitty-patt!!



CLICK HERE TO GO TO charles~richard's LINK


Post# 34774 , Reply# 29   3/15/2008 at 06:02 (5,885 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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All your latest pictures are fascinating. I like the owner's manual recreations. And now I have to find at least one of those floor polishers for mine.

Post# 34791 , Reply# 30   3/15/2008 at 10:06 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
You are so very welcome, Charles.

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T'was your website that inspired me to go for it. It would be an arduous but worthy project to recreate the entire LX Owner's manual in photos, since it is otherwise entirely illustrated with line drawings. It wouldn't be any problem getting a gal pal to dress the part and I couldplay the Dad. Hector and Felix would substitute for the children and pets. :-)

The Polisher lineup was particularly just for you! And of course I'll be looking for the chrome one you have the many decades ahead, I'm sure.

I adore all my vacuums, they've been chosen with care for some overall or small design/engineering feature and I derive great pleasure from manhandleing all the parts as I autopsy and recusitate any vacuum that comes my way. In the course of examination when you have several of the same model you notice the tiny details that differentiate and that leads to asking "Who, What, Where, Why and How". The answers and suppositions are easily come by from this fine group of enthusiasts. All we have to do is post and ask.

As I say, I luv all my vacuum machines but Electrolux holds a special place, in that models are quite different from country to country, and all were manufactured to the highest standards with the finest materials. Even the 70s machines used quality plastics to advantage but then as we all lament - globalization put an end to Things Made To Last A Lifetime.

So, another teeny weeny thing I noticed that supports your observation of the early bag ejection fix Attic & Basement Key on introduction of the LX...Pages 18 & 19 layout of the 1952 manual clearly shows proof of the hasty insertion of the Attic and Basement Key explanation into the camera-ready Manual pages. The body text is smaller and the red word KEY is in enough of a different script typeface (fatter, less fluid) to that throughout the manual that it must have been squeezed in at the last moment by a different hand. Does a Manual exist without this insertion? Well, mine also came with the later slip-in loose page that explains the use of the use of the later developed Control Dial.

Had to scan the manual in overlapping single pages. As soon as I can merge those 52 pages in ArcSoft Panorama maker I'll post the Manual in it's entirety.

How's that for obsessive. LOL

Btw, Webmaster Fred, what's the best way to get these manuals on to the Manuals tab on the opening page? There's no user upload button...

Dave


Post# 34793 , Reply# 31   3/15/2008 at 10:13 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
How to Adjust to YOUR needs...

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Notice the return to the fluid script 'key' word.

Obviously it was decided to not reprint the entire manual for new sales at this point. If you later got this improvment fitted to your early LX you'd get this insert from the Serviceman.


Post# 34794 , Reply# 32   3/15/2008 at 10:29 (5,885 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        

Not to 'hijack' or lower the aesthetically pleasing visual quality of this thread... but all this talk about LXs gave me the itch to use mine...
...To vacuum out the cars.

:-)

She's had a rough life... I figured that restoring her might just make it all the more painful--so I'm letting it go.
(Plus it doesn't have the Red/Yellow nameplate)

Ready to go to work...


Post# 34795 , Reply# 33   3/15/2008 at 10:30 (5,885 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
Closer-up...

Yes, that's a Kirby cord.

:-)


Post# 34799 , Reply# 34   3/15/2008 at 11:39 (5,885 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
She's a diamond in the rough, Fred and simply lovely as

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And like so many Stars of the Golden Years aka Doris Day, she may prefer to shy away from the spotlight and pass her remaining years in dignity and grace. :-)

On the other hand, like Apple Annie, there's always the chance that someone will give her a bath and pop a glttering tiara on her head for that once in a lifetime reunion with her sisters and brothers from the old days.

Although they may all be born/bourne from the same factory, a few will always be destined for greatness while most simply and plainly toil in the trenches so the Exalted Beauty Queen can live in a world of Glamourous Leisure and 'admire ME' Repose.

Seriously tho, I too use one of the LXs with a real long hose like that for the cellar & outside spring cleaning & getting to all the nooks & crannies of the car & boat without hauling the canister after me. And ya don't have to be concerned about bashing up the original tools when you have a work-a-day set that loves to suck up concrete chips & gravel & sand (along with insects, small children, Gas/Electrical supply marketers or bible thumping door-to-door agents and other annoying pests).

At the same time, it gives the passing springtime neighbors a nostalgic treat and an excuse to get to know ya sans the gloves, earmuffs, scarves, hats, bulky coats and flying snow plumes.


Post# 34824 , Reply# 35   3/15/2008 at 16:25 (5,884 days old) by charles~richard ()        

arh1953:

=-> And now I have to find at least one of those floor polishers for mine. <-=

SEE LINK. Yes, this one already closed. But polishers come up fairly often; you just have to look for them. You can usually get them for much less than what this one went for. (Seller claimed it was "new in the box" but I am skeptical.)




CLICK HERE TO GO TO charles~richard's LINK on eBay


Post# 34834 , Reply# 36   3/15/2008 at 17:42 (5,884 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Thanks Charles, I saw that once, I'm going to try my local luck first before I try eBay. I don't hold much faith in them at the moment.


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