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Dyson Small Ball?
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Post# 340950   1/8/2016 at 16:17 (1,263 days old) by tomvacuum10 (Northern Ireland)        

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Hello! A very 'early' happy new year to everyone! Anyway, with all of that over with, I thought I would show you what I have found in the Dyson website. The Small Ball. It is basically a DC50 with a DC24 handle. Why was it brought back? Was it for durability of something like that? Everyones views would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Thomas

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Post# 340951 , Reply# 1   1/8/2016 at 16:46 (1,263 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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To make it easier to handle or store away perhaps? It could be by customer demand.

Post# 340952 , Reply# 2   1/8/2016 at 16:46 (1,263 days old) by s_matt37 (Utah)        

I don't really like Dyson, but it could be because people wanted a more compact, yet advanced machine like the newer ball models. Just my two cents.

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Post# 340954 , Reply# 3   1/8/2016 at 17:56 (1,263 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

The original DC50 has a collapsing handle aswell. Maybe the long plastic flexible wand is a bit overkill?

Or it's because the new 700W DC50's are too powerful so need a more surdy wand. My cousin has a 2015 DC50 and he says it's a bit too powerful (the suction at the head) and it just lifts mats off the floor.

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Post# 340970 , Reply# 4   1/9/2016 at 04:31 (1,263 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Probably by using the DC24 handle/wand setup gave them more scope to put extra length on the hose. Using this design you have to pull the wand out to attach it to the top of the handle/wand where as the old DC50 design you pulled the wand out and use it as is, the handle stayed attached to the machine like the bigger ball models!

I hope they have also revisited other issues I've seen owners of the DC50 mention in reviews or on Dyson FB page. Blockage issues mainly where the air path enters the bin up through the centre of it, owners report constant blockage issues. Plus brush bar wearing down very quickly!

Another thing I think they need to address is the marketing as they marketed the DC50 as a small light weight with the same performance as the larger machines. That's fine. When the general public see the adverts and to adverts they'll think I prefer a lighter vacuum (regardless of there size of habitat!) and may buy one. They then have issues with it, bin too small, cable not long enough etc.... Dyson response to owners complaints about the machine advise it's for small homes and apartments/flats. They just need to make it more clear in the marketing!!

Just some of my thoughts.....

One thing I have noticed is Dyson is updating parts on the Ball models of late but no new ball design on the horizon as yet! Or can the upright ball technology be changed anymore!?

Post# 340972 , Reply# 5   1/9/2016 at 04:46 (1,263 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

I could not agree more with the above post about Dyson not marketing their cleaners clearly enough. This has been their downfall for many years. I knew a girl who worked as a demonstrator for Dyson for some time and she told me she could pull her hair out at times trying to get clarification on what she was selling.

It is almost as though Dyson know in their own minds what they are doing, but this does not always come through in the advertising and the training. If a company sells their product as being as good as something else in every way then it also needs to explain it's limitations. The Dyson DC26 was a good example of this as the lady I speak of said she was told to sell it as being every bit as good as a much larger model and yes, that it was designed for people with apartments etc, but no one could answer the question as to what would happen if it was bought for a bigger home. She said all she got was a generic "It is for flats and very small homes".

Post# 340974 , Reply# 6   1/9/2016 at 05:11 (1,263 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Interesting to read it from someone who worked for Dyson that seems to backup what we see. Dyson must know what they are doing, clever marketing to get consumers to buy! Once they have the machine it's money coming in regardless if it's suitable. I seen FB comments there they would advise the customer they can exchange the machine for a more suitable one. I would think that would cost more money! Would sales be effected (big or small or very slightly) if they stated in the advertisements? The consumer would be better informed and probably still buy just another model more suitable to them!

Same with the Dyson cordless range (V6 range) marketed as having the same performance as a corded machine. Regardless of runtime owners (a lot of them!) are using them as their main vacuum ditching their corded machine then complaining the runtime is 'rubbish', bin capacity too small etc....Dyson standard reply on FB and other media platforms to owners along with other comments as the cordless range is for quick cleans and in between cleans to your main one used by a corded machine! Again the marketing is not clear!

Post# 340976 , Reply# 7   1/9/2016 at 06:48 (1,263 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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But not any different to cordless vacs BEFORE the age of Dyson. I still love dust busters because they are so quick and small to grab. I won't back down from the purchase of them.

Post# 340980 , Reply# 8   1/9/2016 at 09:07 (1,263 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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No that's is correct. There handily for quick jobs around the house.

Post# 340993 , Reply# 9   1/9/2016 at 12:24 (1,263 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

This is all quite true from how I see it too. That the rechargeable cleaners are being marketed as being as good as a full size upright. However, in this instance I do think common sense has to kick in from the consumer. They have to question their own ideas of what they thought it could do.

Personally, I have never seen the bother in getting a vacuum cleaner out and using it. The cord has never troubled me much either. It's having to clean at all which I dislike. I think it's called "First World Problems".

Post# 341014 , Reply# 10   1/9/2016 at 18:01 (1,262 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Sadly the reality of all these cordless stick vacs on the market is that catalogue brands are low on many mechanical sweepers. I think there's still a market for them.

Post# 341038 , Reply# 11   1/10/2016 at 00:15 (1,262 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
They moved from plastic to metal

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to strengthen the handle. From what they said, it sounds like they made the cord a little longer too. You guys are right in saying that they shouldn't say it cleans as well as their larger models. The DC50 isn't even close. It did an awesome job on bare floors, but the nylon bristles were very wimpy. With all those cyclones, I hope they don't compromise on carpet agitation this time. If they could make a lightweight model that cleaned as well as the Riccar Supralite, for instance, they would have something really impressive on their hands. It's just a real brushbar away!

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Post# 341567 , Reply# 12   1/18/2016 at 17:37 (1,253 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

That's a DC50. Just don't!

I know a DC24 isn't the last word in reliability either but at least parts are available for a 24. You try finding a motor for a dc50 for £not a lot, or a brush roll.

I have one, awful thing that really is very, very broken (but then it did only cost me £5.

Here's mine!


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