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Thread Number: 30243
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
how often should i replace the bag? |
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| Post# 335698 10/15/2015 at 15:14 (3,114 days old) by jake1234 (greasby) | ||
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when should I replace the bag on some of my bagged vacuums? should I wait for the bag check indicator to go to replace? or should I replace the bag when I think its full? | ||
| Post# 335699 , Reply# 1 10/15/2015 at 15:20 (3,114 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 335701 , Reply# 2 10/15/2015 at 16:09 (3,114 days old) by vacuumlover (UK) | ||
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As Jmarray said. Don't fill it right up as it will put strain on the motor | ||
| Post# 335703 , Reply# 3 10/15/2015 at 17:49 (3,114 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Replace when you can stand the smell no longer. | ||
| Post# 335704 , Reply# 4 10/15/2015 at 18:09 (3,114 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Sorry but I don't always keep a watch on a dust bag - I usually leave mine until they have viewable dust at the opening. Same with the now vintage vacs that my parents and my grand parents owned - they tended to ram them full of dirt until it was time to change the bags - and yes, with a bottom fill dust bag such as those on Hoover Senior or certain Junior models always resulted in a lot of mess, albeit using the suggested method of emptying dust onto a newspaper laid on a carpet or hard floor.
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| Post# 335713 , Reply# 5 10/16/2015 at 07:49 (3,114 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
 Changing the bag when it's 1/2 full is ridiculously wasteful. It varies from cleaner to cleaner and design to design as to when the bag needs changing. For example, the top fill Sebo bags can be absolutely packed solid...like a brick..and it won't lose suction. Other designs can usually be filled to about 3/4 - 4/5 fill with a little "breathing space" at the top before it needs changing. | ||
| Post# 335720 , Reply# 6 10/16/2015 at 10:42 (3,113 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
For me, and I know this is vague? I normally change the bag when the sound of the air flow changes?Dusty conditions it can easily be half a bag, but not most times. At my mom's apt, there is a lot of dust/ dry skin, they never make it to half bag. At home here if its say my Miele, it works to full.The hepa bags in my Silverado, mostly full, when I used the paper, they were done at half for sure. I guess this means judge your own machine at your place?
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| Post# 335721 , Reply# 7 10/16/2015 at 11:31 (3,113 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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I usually go until I notice a drastic drop in air flow performance | ||
| Post# 335732 , Reply# 8 10/16/2015 at 13:24 (3,113 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
The type C Electrolux
bags are so freaking cheap it's ridiculous. Literally 35$ for 100 bags on ebay. I change mine when it's about 1/2 to 3/4 full. I couldn't imagine nor have I ever seen a vacuum bag so full it felt like a brick. The fresh bag has better suction, although it still seems to have decent airflow even at 1/2 to 3/4 full. I recently bought these vacuum scent tabs that neutralize bag odor and it's amazing turning the vacuum on with a 3 week old bag and no smell at all other than the scent of the vacuum tab.....so maybe because of that I won't change them quite as often as I used to.
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| Post# 335775 , Reply# 9 10/17/2015 at 06:15 (3,113 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 335776 , Reply# 10 10/17/2015 at 07:30 (3,113 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well said Chris. I also find the same with Henry HEPA FLO dust bags. They can be absolutely packed with dirt until they require to be emptied. I wouldn't dream of throwing the bag out if it was only three quarters full.
I suppose it depends on what kind of vacuum is being used and what kind of dirt the vacuum in question is picking up. High synthetic dust bags are well known to choke up early when plaster dirt or talcum like powder is continually being picked up. | ||
| Post# 335784 , Reply# 11 10/17/2015 at 10:14 (3,112 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Chris
I think Mark was referring to the Electrolux Type C canister bags in his post above. Those Electrolux bags can get packed like a brick too, just like the Sebo bags. I'm sure Mark didn't mean to offend you.
Nar - "High synthetic dust bags are well known to choke up early when plaster dirt or talcum like powder is continually being picked up." That all depends on what kind of cleaner is used & the bag compartment design as well. I have never found Miele's AirClean bags to choke up & lose suction early if fine powders or lots of dust is picked up. Same with the Hoover Windtunnel canisters that use the Type S bag in them....they also seem to handle fine dust & powder rather well too without suction dropping off too much. As for the question at hand, I do the same as Mike does above, wait until I see a noticeable drop in airflow & suction in my cleaners. And one thing I have gotten into the habit of doing, whether it be upright or canister, is I will take the hose off EVERY TIME I go to use it, & check the suction by hand before I use it to clean. I also do this with bagless cleaners, & only empty the bin & clean the pre-filter (if dirty enough) when I see a drop in suction or the bin is full right to the max line. Rob | ||
| Post# 335795 , Reply# 12 10/17/2015 at 12:44 (3,112 days old) by Sebo_Fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well, each to their own.
"I have never found Miele's AirClean bags to choke up & lose suction early if fine powders or lots of dust is picked up."
Sadly I have already found Miele's new AirClean bags to choke early. When I had my new central heating installed last year, the copper wires that had to be cut for the radiators left terrible fine orange dust all around my bathroom. I still have orange coloured bonding now. The dust choked the bag and the Miele bag in question was barely half full. Miele aren't alone here though; the bag in my SEBO X can often choke if I'm picking up wood cuttings/fine shavings. Miele's newer and current user manuals for their cylinder/canister vacs still points out that builders dust can clog up their dust bags, regardless of the newer AirClean design. It may be just a warning but in some realities, high filtration choking dust bags can occur. | ||
| Post# 335804 , Reply# 13 10/17/2015 at 17:42 (3,112 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana) | ||
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Bag change and bag smell... I usually change the filter bag when it is half full,but,I've been known to go 3/4 full. | ||
| Post# 335883 , Reply# 14 10/19/2015 at 09:18 (3,110 days old) by Loganvac (Kennett Square, Pennsylvania) | ||
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| Post# 335891 , Reply# 15 10/19/2015 at 13:41 (3,110 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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I understand some of you pack the bags | ||
| Post# 335910 , Reply# 16 10/19/2015 at 17:19 (3,110 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well not all vacuums are the same. The airflow channel in a SEBO upright usually has compensators or rather, sections that have been designed to allow for bags to fill up WITHOUT putting strain on the motor. Same with a lot of modern uprights I've owned in the past - a non-removable and non-adjustable air outlet valve on the back allows for air relief that puts less strain on the motor.
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| Post# 335913 , Reply# 17 10/19/2015 at 18:22 (3,110 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 335923 , Reply# 18 10/19/2015 at 21:55 (3,110 days old) by vacuumlad1650  (Wauponsee, IL) |
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| Post# 335928 , Reply# 19 10/19/2015 at 22:35 (3,110 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 335936 , Reply# 20 10/20/2015 at 11:09 (3,109 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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perfect bags The perfect bags do seem to be better than the ones provided by Aerus, the Perfect Power Team vacuum is great as well, just like the older Electrolux vacuums, but more powerful. | ||
| Post# 335938 , Reply# 21 10/20/2015 at 11:33 (3,109 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 335939 , Reply# 22 10/20/2015 at 12:59 (3,109 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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suckolux
The total opposite has been true for me. Since I bought the 100 c bags a long time ago, that's one thing I noticed that amazed me because I thought the c bags felt so cheap - but I was so surprised that there was no dust in the bin that holds the bag at all. Multiple times I've gotten a white damp cloth after changing the bags and gone through the grooves and flat areas in the chamber and saw no dirt on the rag at all. I was expecting the opposite since these bags felt cheap...Now, the Kenmore I had had more power than the Lux and the bags felt of higher quality (thicker) but my kenmore leaked dust into the bin like crazy.
Lately, I keep my lux in the laundry room and I use it to suck out the bin of my shark and clean the shark filters...and with all that dirt going in at one time, I was sure there would be some dust in the bin of the lux, but so far, there hasn't been any..I wonder if I just got lucky with this lot of bags or something? | ||
| Post# 335941 , Reply# 23 10/20/2015 at 14:23 (3,109 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 335954 , Reply# 25 10/20/2015 at 19:41 (3,109 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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| Post# 335955 , Reply# 26 10/20/2015 at 19:47 (3,109 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Jeff, I totally agree with you on this! Aerus does need to start offering a HEPA Cloth Type C bag. Just thinking offhand, I can't think of ANY residential PN canister on the market presently that has been introduced in the past couple of years that HEPA Cloth bags aren't standard or optional equipment. Aerus can't use the cost of manufacturing the bags or pricing them as an issue....there are companies in China already manufacturing the bags they can source the bags from, & there's one website offering a 100 pack of bags for only $90 dollars, that's less than $1 dollar per bag. Speaking of pricing on Aerus vacuum bags, though, one issue I have with Aerus is for whatever their reason they aren't offering a 100 pack of the HEPA Cloth bags for the Guardian Platinum. They did it for the Guardian & Guardian Ultra, so I would love to hear their rationale for NOT offering a 100 pack for the Platinum. To my mind, that's one very valid excuse not to buy one.
David - You say you were seeing brown dust on the Miele pre motor filter? Let me ask you this....did you check the blue sealing strip that holds the back of the bag together, & was it still intact when you changed the bag? If the blue sealing strip was coming undone, that could explain the dust leakage you saw on the filter. I tried the Arm & Hammer Electrolux Type C bags, & the Filtrete version, made by Electrolux Home Care Products, & they totally solved this problem, since the bag is folded over & glued in the back instead of using the blue sealing strip. Rob CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbylux77's LINK | ||
| Post# 335956 , Reply# 27 10/20/2015 at 19:58 (3,109 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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I tried a few brands, was using the big box of genuine Electrolux 4 ply the chamber looked ok for all those years, but I smelled dust. I have a Very strong nose? Changed to the Perfect, that was gone. The pre motor filter I cut to fit the bottom of that chamber, both times with other bags had to be thrown out it was so packed, no bags had separated at all, with the Perfect bags, months later is is perfectly clean, no smell.
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| Post# 335957 , Reply# 28 10/20/2015 at 20:04 (3,109 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 335964 , Reply# 30 10/20/2015 at 21:20 (3,109 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 336004 , Reply# 31 10/21/2015 at 15:20 (3,108 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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I change the bag when it starts to smell bad like dust or other odor or when suction power is diminished | ||
| Post# 336007 , Reply# 32 10/21/2015 at 16:56 (3,108 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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I keep the Automatic control on my old Luxes set to eject as soon as possible,that way they are not choked . | ||
| Post# 336013 , Reply# 33 10/21/2015 at 19:08 (3,108 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 336014 , Reply# 34 10/21/2015 at 20:03 (3,108 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL) |
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