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Electrolux Silverado and Silverado Deluxe |
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Post# 33592 , Reply# 6   2/29/2008 at 12:45 (5,872 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)   |   | |
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Hello, everyone, im new to the forum, but have been lurking in the background, its a pleasure to be here. About the Silverado "Deluxe",,,im a former Kirby salesman (many years ago), and had been told then that "Deluxe" means WITH POWERNOZZLE, as there was always a 1205 "Deluxe", Golden J, Super J, "Deluxe" ect, meaning it comes with the power nozzle. If the salesman sold the machine without the powernozzle, it was just a 1205, Golden J, Super J, Olympia, Silverado, ect. Had no idea that there really was a different size motor too, very interesting! Just wanted to say thank you too to all of you, ive learned so much from all of you here. |
Post# 35599 , Reply# 9   3/23/2008 at 22:18 (5,848 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Thanks for the info my 1505 Silverado not sure if its deluxe or not is coming w a omni flow PN5 L design so maybe its a replacement. |
Post# 35607 , Reply# 12   3/23/2008 at 22:57 (5,848 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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What you have in the picture above is an Olympia One. All Silverados were the same color. |
Post# 35615 , Reply# 19   3/24/2008 at 00:22 (5,848 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Oh the 2100 was built in USA as was the power nozzle & its a PN-6B...Manual has a date of 89 so it has to be least 89. I must have gotten it when it was about 8 yrs old! quite a find |
Post# 35616 , Reply# 20   3/24/2008 at 00:32 (5,848 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 35618 , Reply# 22   3/24/2008 at 00:40 (5,848 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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So that would throw id'ing the early & later silverados by the deluxe label out the window... back to the drawing board & it all seems futile when even serial numbers don't tell the whole truth |
Post# 35619 , Reply# 23   3/24/2008 at 00:41 (5,848 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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"back to the drawing board" Yep. I think so. |
Post# 35849 , Reply# 42   3/26/2008 at 00:19 (5,846 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Nut driver? is that a socket wrench? I have some I do belive just a cleaning can go a far way I'm not doing any major rivet or washer conversion It's not sucking as strong as the silverado It works so I'm game to see if I can give it some help. |
Post# 35888 , Reply# 46   3/26/2008 at 14:40 (5,846 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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read motors are same sucking power but one does run at higher speed...not sure how that affects the motor? Seems the earleier is easier to fix but maybe not any better or worse. Still would like to uncloak the Silverado Mystery... |
Post# 35937 , Reply# 56   3/26/2008 at 21:28 (5,845 days old) by logan ()   |   | |
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Yes the PN5 is much better than any of the PN4's. But I am talking about cleaning ability, not durability. :-) The PN4's will be around a lot longer than the PN5's that for sure, but they just don't clean as good. |
Post# 35943 , Reply# 58   3/26/2008 at 21:33 (5,845 days old) by logan ()   |   | |
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You should be happy! You will love it I'm sure! :-) |
Post# 35945 , Reply# 59   3/26/2008 at 21:39 (5,845 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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Basicly all Lux PNs are interchangeable. You can even use a PN5 or 6 or 7 with a old model G if you wanted to. |
Post# 35949 , Reply# 61   3/26/2008 at 21:56 (5,845 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Thought I was getting the floor tool...oooh well, I guess I was wrong...you know you look at so many you go ga ga... but even the hose looks good & parts these days are so $, Seems easier to get the vacs then the accessories |
Post# 36033 , Reply# 64   3/27/2008 at 14:42 (5,845 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Noticed the PN4 square is different on the top of the case On the PN4 there is a high spot on the front case that goes all the way across the back but it's only half way on PN4A. Was this a better change? Is there any significant diff bet a PN 4 & PN4A? |
Post# 36034 , Reply# 65   3/27/2008 at 14:46 (5,845 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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Just the case changed. It was part of a gradual evolution to the L shaped PN5. It allows half of the nozzle to get under lower objects. Aside from that I am unaware of any other differences. |
Post# 36035 , Reply# 66   3/27/2008 at 14:51 (5,845 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Thanks, still have yet to find some time to try to get inside the olympia...It's on the surgery table waitng.... Hey, have a great day! |
Post# 36058 , Reply# 68   3/27/2008 at 17:44 (5,845 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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The nuts in there are 3/8 inch. That is the socket size you will need once you get a tool long enough to reach them. |
Post# 36072 , Reply# 70   3/27/2008 at 18:05 (5,845 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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oooh thanks I might just buy a nutdriver for it That saves me time fumbling around.... 3/8? you sure I have a 5/16 nut driver & it looks so big The nuts in there were smaller than the 1/4" nut driver I have. Maybe its a different casing? |
Post# 36073 , Reply# 71   3/27/2008 at 18:09 (5,845 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Is this top part of a screw? Hope its not a bolt Still think it will be harder to get them back in as I can see the screw falling all over unless it was magnatized & stuck to the socket. Arrgh |
Post# 36077 , Reply# 73   3/27/2008 at 18:22 (5,844 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Well better eat think I;m getting light headed here...LOIL |
Post# 36114 , Reply# 78   3/27/2008 at 21:52 (5,844 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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I think I'm going to switch it to my Silverado hehehehe Soooo...what do I have? |
Post# 36117 , Reply# 80   3/27/2008 at 22:11 (5,844 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Doesn't look deeper but are we talking how much? going to measure hace to get something to to fit thru the screen & be a depth guage... there about the same as far as I can tell say within a mm or 2 |
Post# 36122 , Reply# 82   3/27/2008 at 22:47 (5,844 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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I'd say you have a good one. The difference would be no less than 1 inch. If it's within a few sixteenths then its the same. |
Post# 36123 , Reply# 83   3/27/2008 at 22:54 (5,844 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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YEAH!!!!!! Thanks Now it has an olympia door close mech That part on the olympia is much better than the Silverado! Yikes things went down hill in the 80's |
Post# 36127 , Reply# 85   3/27/2008 at 23:21 (5,844 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Nobel Vac Prize Nominee LOL |
Post# 36304 , Reply# 87   3/29/2008 at 14:21 (5,843 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Power nozzle is ???? PN2 probable has bottom of a PN2 but top is PN4A & who knows what the heck they did with the guts in that! |
Post# 36308 , Reply# 90   3/29/2008 at 15:00 (5,843 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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these are my bag comp notice the one above has 2 different colors inside |
Post# 36310 , Reply# 91   3/29/2008 at 15:11 (5,843 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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Interesting. I don't know why that would be. It is all one piece so part of it must have been exposed to something the other part was not. |
Post# 36312 , Reply# 92   3/29/2008 at 15:14 (5,843 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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you sure its one piece? Anyway I still feel the one with the small square screen cover is the olympia bag compartment. Could be possible my silverado bag compt is weird? Anyone else have one like mine? see the different screen |
Post# 36318 , Reply# 94   3/29/2008 at 15:34 (5,843 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Well its an S serial # so it should be a later Silverado model as mine is a P Still it doesn't mean that someone couldn't switch the front swivel wheel part as that holds the serial number... LOL Back to the drawing board! LOL |
Post# 36326 , Reply# 97   3/29/2008 at 16:10 (5,843 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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I'd say the circular plastic screen guard was the Silverado design. The square metal screen Olympia. I think that Silverado model with the screwed up wiring has the olympia screen & I think that bag compt maybe even motor was changed |
Post# 36417 , Reply# 102   3/30/2008 at 01:13 (5,842 days old) by elux89 ()   |   | |
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Yes, brushes will spark/arc. But, the determining factor is how much spark do you see. If it's like a constant glow, don't worry, if it looks like a gas well going off, houston, you have a problem! |
Post# 36448 , Reply# 104   3/30/2008 at 10:21 (5,842 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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Probably you only see the small amount of brush because the rest is setting in a holder. They will always glow some but if it is giving off a lot of sparks then there could be a problem. |
Post# 36484 , Reply# 106   3/30/2008 at 15:28 (5,842 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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It looks like I'm going to do a lesson on all things carbon brushes tonight. I'll make sure my camera batteries are charged and I'll be back in a few hours to explain everything. |
Post# 36486 , Reply# 107   3/30/2008 at 16:00 (5,842 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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ooooh Goody! THANKS! its sort of fine thread sparking not like a torch...or rocket plume LOL Just scared me as I viewed it while peering inside the case in a dark room so maybe its norml I hope |
Post# 36487 , Reply# 108   3/30/2008 at 16:03 (5,842 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Gosh it would be pretty funny to have a nitro vac with fire pluming out of the back... LOL |
Post# 36488 , Reply# 109   3/30/2008 at 16:12 (5,842 days old) by lux1521 ()   |   | |
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Vacuum up gasoline and thats exactly what happens. It's not a new concept. Don't try it!!! |
Post# 283282 , Reply# 111   6/5/2014 at 11:26 (3,584 days old) by joevacman1 (Valley Stream New york 11581)   |   | |
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The original silverado used the same Super J / Olympia One Motor. With the introduction of the Diamond Jubilee in Oct 1983 for the 50th ann. (Similar to cars being introduced the Oct before for next years model)and October being a traditional "Drive Month" for Electrolux Salesman , Electrolux produced a special run of Silverdao's at a "special price' to promote sales. In this special run the Silverado received certain changes , most prominent being the new designed DJ motor which was made in house I believe. I guess the Older Super J/Olympia motor was no longer being manufactured. Another change I remember was the plastic cordwinder housing as on the DJ.
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