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Cleaning company using Rainbows - what dyson owner missed?
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Post# 334739   9/28/2015 at 15:11 (3,129 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

I found it interesting that a cleaning company would (1) use Rainbow vacuums, and (2) would attribute dirt collected to the vacuum, and (3) show pictures of filth from customer's homes.

Caption to picture:
"This is what the Rainbow picked up from one room while the homeowner normally uses a Dyson. 😷 bag-less & bag vacuums will not and cannot remove the deep down dirt from hardwood, concrete & carpet."

Did the Dyson really miss all of that dirt? Or perhaps did the homeowner "miss" the dirt, by not vacuuming properly? Or by not maintaining their Dyson properly? Or did the homeowner figure that they were paying the cleaning company to vacuum, so they just didn't bother? I guess the cleaning company doesn't consider the Rainbow to be bag-less?



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Post# 334741 , Reply# 1   9/28/2015 at 15:26 (3,129 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Ralph I cannot make you link work for me.

I think you are correct in all that you have said. The dirt does not mean the homeowners vacuum cleaner is no good, for all the reasons you mention.

The question is, if this is dirt that was found in flooring, what are the real-life health issues with it?


Post# 334745 , Reply# 2   9/28/2015 at 15:56 (3,129 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

The link isn't really necessary. I included it in case the photo upload didn't work.




Post# 334748 , Reply# 3   9/28/2015 at 16:47 (3,129 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

I saw a second message on their facebook page with the same picture: "Why pick Rainbow Brite Clean Team? We deep clean each room 15 minutes using the Rainbow. What's the difference? All dry filter vacuums (bag-less & with bags) reduce cleaning ability by 80% when the vacuum is bran new after the 1st ten minutes. The Rainbow stays at 100% Cleaning Ability. This is what the Rainbow picked up from one room while the homeowner normally uses a Dyson."


this comment is especially curious because the Dyson maintains it's suction. I have no idea which Dyson they are comparing to, but their claim that the cleaning ability of the Dyson drops by 80% is dubious.



Post# 334762 , Reply# 4   9/28/2015 at 19:27 (3,129 days old) by dedede ()        

No vacuum on the market today loses 80% of its suction if it's maintained. Certainly not in ten minutes. If they're willing to just lie about that then why believe that they got that dirt in the home.

The most irritating thing about vacuum marketing is the constant lying about competitors products.


Post# 334768 , Reply# 5   9/28/2015 at 21:23 (3,129 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

In order to sell a $2600 vacuum, I guess you have to S-T-R-E-T-C-H the truth a little bit. The cleaning company is just parroting what they were told in the Rainbow demo. It may even be owned by a Rainbow salesperson.



Post# 334770 , Reply# 6   9/28/2015 at 21:39 (3,129 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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That sounds about right!

Post# 334793 , Reply# 7   9/29/2015 at 11:49 (3,128 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

I just saw their website. Their whole business is a ploy to promote the machine.

www.facebook.com/rainbowb...


Post# 334836 , Reply# 8   9/29/2015 at 16:20 (3,128 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I wasnt aware there was such a thing as deep down dirt in hardwood floors or concrete? Think someone didnt think their marketing bullshit through properly!

Post# 334838 , Reply# 9   9/29/2015 at 16:31 (3,128 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Actually

Not defending the practice, but hardwood floors do have dirt that gets between the slats, and concrete floors are very porous which can allow dust to settle where a broom would just sweep over it and not shift it. However, any vacuum could lift dirt from these surfaces just as effectively IMO.



Post# 334840 , Reply# 10   9/29/2015 at 16:48 (3,128 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I have a Rainbow and LOVE IT

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It is an awesome machine! However, I'm a clean freak and the first 2 years I vacuumed daily with a well maintained Kenmore Can in my brand new house with berber. When I got my Rainbow in 2006, yes the water was dirty, but not horribly dirty....so the Kenmore canister was doing it's job. I just like using my rainbow to dust the house because it has the 14 foot hose and small wand and dusting brush that I can get high and low. With any other vacuum, that quick release handle is too bulky when dusting with the dusting brush trying to get into tight spaces. I sometimes use the rainbow PN, but not always. I find more and more I'm using the rainbow to dust my entire house floor to ceiling.



Post# 334858 , Reply# 11   9/29/2015 at 20:30 (3,128 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Honestly I have made the water in the rainbow look like that just vacuuming the halls in the building I live in. (weekly) Also at a farm house that the renters didn't do much vacuuming or the vacuum wasn't working like it should. At the house the water completely stopped moving. A second through vacuuming and the water was still thick but moving. There was a lot of animal hair the first round of vacuuming.

Post# 334868 , Reply# 12   9/30/2015 at 03:55 (3,128 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        
That makes sense now

They charge to do some cleaning and then hope to sell a vacuum cleaner. Not a bad idea at all. But they are not a cleaning business in the sense of the sort of company I might want to hire to clean my flat throughly - walls, furniture, light fittings etc.

Post# 334885 , Reply# 13   9/30/2015 at 12:09 (3,127 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Apparently they vacuum only. If I'm paying $25 to a cleaning crew, they better scrub the toilet and clean the oven as well.

Post# 334889 , Reply# 14   9/30/2015 at 12:26 (3,127 days old) by dedede ()        

The way they see it: If they're driving out to your house, hoping you're actually there and didn't forget, they want more than $25 of work to do.

House cleaners are shockingly expensive. Even when they're not very good.


Post# 334926 , Reply# 15   9/30/2015 at 17:45 (3,127 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        
House cleaners and unrealistic homeowner expectations

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My partner's mother cleans homes for a living.  She charges over $120 for an 8-hour day, and she works alone.  Honestly, that's a bargain.  Once people KNOW someone is cleaning for them, they tend to become very lazy, sloppy, and entitled about their personal upkeep of their home.  "I'm NOT going to pick up that trash/food/mess!  What are we paying Maria for?!"  Then the homeowners expect the home to look cleaner/better than it did after the previous visit, despite the additional trash/grime they have been putting in place.

 

Whoever thinks $25 is sufficient for an entire crew, AND would expect their toilet and oven to be cleaned (two different rooms' amenities) has a similar outlook.  I'm damn glad that I and my loved ones don't clean that home.


Post# 334927 , Reply# 16   9/30/2015 at 18:07 (3,127 days old) by dedede ()        

That is a bargain.

Post# 334935 , Reply# 17   9/30/2015 at 19:03 (3,127 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

$25.00 would be a bargain if it didn't cost upwards of $2000.00 to buy the vacuum. They are preying on the fears of germophobes that are terrified of dust mites.

Sounds like they have the same type of game as Kirby. Win a free room of carpet shampooing. Next thing you know you are buying a $2000.00 vacuum cleaner. Not that I have paid that much for a Kirby. They come way down on the price or carry it back out the door with them.


Post# 334950 , Reply# 18   9/30/2015 at 21:36 (3,127 days old) by man114 (Buffalo NY)        

Most Rainbow distributors operate the same way and don't do this. This sounds like a clever trick by someone down the chain or some smaller distributor that worked up the chain and is doing it independently. Clever though, clean a few rooms disgust the person and sell the vac or if not still made a good buck. In a larger population area you could probably make a good deal of money.

Post# 334978 , Reply# 19   10/1/2015 at 01:41 (3,127 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Don't think I would want to "pay" for the cleaning--and then buy their vacuum afterward.And has that vacuum been used to "clean" how many places before it does yours.Do they perform the Rainbow demo as they clean??If they are saying that they do homecleaning they should be prepared to do more than just the vacuuming.Yes,be prepared to scrub sinks,swab potties,and clean the oven!

Post# 334982 , Reply# 20   10/1/2015 at 03:00 (3,127 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I'm always paranoid at the thought

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of someone else cleaning my house.

Things that go through my mind: If they used strong cleaner in the shower or the vanity or the toilet, did they rinse it well? I mean, if you sit on the toilet, are you sitting on half ass (no pun) rinsed chemicals, or step in the shower where perhaps they sprayed Tilex. Did they bother to rinse it well so that it doesn't get on your skin. All these thoughts go through my mind because I know how people are. It's not their house and you can't follow behind them watching them EVERY second...you can make something look clean without it actually being cleaned properly.....so I have always just done it myself.....Unless it's someone that I REALLY trust when it comes to doing something like that.

My cousin cleaned houses back when I lived in NC in an area called Connestee Falls outside of Brevard. It is a gated area in the mountains where mostly rich people lived and they spent their time there during the summer months and went back to Florida for the winter. At one point her helper was in the hospital and she asked me if I would help her. I did not NEED or want to do this at all, but I did help her for a couple of week and I HATED it!!! I do not enjoy cleaning even though I'm a clean freak. I found that I did not clean their houses the way I would clean my own because it was not mine......So I assume in my warped mind that everyone else is the same way. It's not mine so I'm not going to clean it as if it were mine.


Post# 334994 , Reply# 21   10/1/2015 at 11:28 (3,126 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I've never had anyone clean my house for me. But if I did, I would want them to CLEAN the entire house. Not just do the vacuuming, which I can do myself. I would want them to do the things I don't like to do, like clean the fridge, the oven, the toilets, etc. Vacuuming is the easiest thing, cleaning the bathroom is not. For $25, I want them to do the things I don't want to do, not the very thing I enjoy. Many people I guess don't like vacuuming, but if I had them come to my house, and paid them $25 to vacuum 2 rooms, I'd make them use my Central Vac.

Post# 335007 , Reply# 22   10/1/2015 at 13:54 (3,126 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

I pay for cleaning. For much of her later working life my mother had housekeeping jobs and now I have a cleaner.

I like a clean living space but cleaning it is now very hard for me, even the vacuuming. I am, fortunate to have enough money to pay for such assistance, though there are many areas of life where I have been penalised so don't anyone think money is the be all and end all.

Even if I was a cleaning fanatic, I can't do it myself, so to this end one has to take what services are avaliable and pay the price which is requested. I am lucky to have found someone who does care enough but then I do pay her considerably more than she asks as I can't afford to lose her.

After my mother died I did have a few different cleaners over a very long period of time, but as I was able to do my own work back then I was not as commited to the process as I am now. So then if a cleaner left I didn't immediatly seek another, and in one case actively encouraged her to leave as things were not working out.


Post# 336112 , Reply# 23   10/24/2015 at 02:44 (3,104 days old) by Shrink1982 (Indianapolis)        
Not Difficult

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It isn't difficult to make the water in a rainbow look dirty. Any time you mix dirt, dust and hair with water it is going to look disgusting. I agree with the above mentioned; it is amazing how misleading the vacuum cleaner business is. This is why good machines (SEBO, Miele, etc.) don't need to advertise. They do the job and do it well. No need to trash others and mislead when you have a good product. Problem is, most vacuums on the market are crap. If they told the truth they wouldn't make a dime. You get what you pay for although I am not a Dyson fan. It is too "plasticy" for me and I don't like bagless. Give me my SEBO any day!!

Post# 336174 , Reply# 24   10/25/2015 at 12:16 (3,102 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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"...hardwood floors do have dirt that gets between the slats"

Yeah, if the floor isn't sealed in the first place.

Sorry to disappoint you Shrink but SEBO and Miele both advertise their vacuums/floorcare ranges. Might not be in the U.S but they do appear to advertise worldwide, either online or in the press.




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