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Thread Number: 30053
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Shopping between Kirby Avalir and Simplicity Gusto |
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| Post# 333944 , Reply# 1 9/14/2015 at 15:20 (3,139 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Yeah, Kirbys are built like tanks and that's a good thing. But don't base your decision about the Avalir on your experience with a Heritage back in the day. I have a Heritage 1 (okay, so it's probably a big stretch to say I have a Heritage anymore since it's still at my ex-girlfriend's house) and three G-series machines and believe me, Tech Drive makes all the difference. Pushing and pulling the machine back and forth is almost effortless and definitely a different experience from manhandling the Heritage. I can only imagine things have gotten even better with later models since my newest Kirby--a 2001 vintage Gsix--came off the line decade and a half ago.
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| Post# 333949 , Reply# 3 9/14/2015 at 19:04 (3,139 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
 If you have 60% Frieze carpeting, then you don't want a canister vacuum like the Simplicity Gusto with a power head! It just won't be able to handle Frieze carpet very well!
What you DO want is the Kirby Avalir! It has the Weight and Power to handle Frieze carpet and it has Tech Drive which is the built in transmission that makes the Kirby almost effortless to push and pull on thick plush Frieze carpet. You can't compare the Avalir to the Kirby Heritage because the Heritage had no power assist transmission so it was more difficult to maneuver. Frieze carpet requires a huge amount of Airflow (120 CFM) which the Avalir has. Canister vacs have good suction but sorely lack airflow. The Avalir has the new Floor Care System which makes it ideal for shampooing your carpet and washing and waxing all types of hard flooring.
Check out the video. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sptyks's LINK This post was last edited 09/14/2015 at 19:43 | ||
| Post# 333951 , Reply# 4 9/14/2015 at 19:18 (3,139 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 333952 , Reply# 5 9/14/2015 at 19:27 (3,139 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
I suggest you have a look at the maytag m1200 which has got everything you want and more.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO dys0nb0y's LINK | ||
| Post# 333956 , Reply# 6 9/14/2015 at 20:09 (3,139 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan ) | ||
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| Post# 333957 , Reply# 7 9/14/2015 at 20:11 (3,139 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
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| Post# 333963 , Reply# 9 9/14/2015 at 21:33 (3,139 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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That Maytag looks Interesting. I may have to see If I can locate one and give it a going over. | ||
| Post# 333999 , Reply# 11 9/15/2015 at 14:16 (3,138 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
The Simplicity would be the much better choice for several reasons. One is cost. I know how much we sell them for at the Factory Outlet Store, the Kirby costs twice (or more) than the Simplicity. The Kirby has a vulnerable belt. It's rubber, has to be replaced, and is in the middle of the path of dirt. The Simplicity has a lifetime belt that cannot break, and the nozzle shuts off as soon as something obstructs and stalls the brush. The brush roller is wood in the Kirby, metal in the Simplicity. The Simplicity brush roller has REPLACABLE brush strips, instead of buying the entire brush roller as on the Kirby. Kirby doesn't have a cord rewinder, nor does it have variable speeds for throw rugs, curtains, etc. The hose is always connected to the Simplicity - it's a true pain the rear end to connect the hose and disconnect the hose on the Kirby. The dirt passes through the suction fan on the Kirby, pick up a quarter and it's "crunch crunch crunch". The Kirby doesn't filter it's motor brush dust - the Hepa filter on the Simplicity returns air cleaner than you are breathing - back into your rooms. The Simplicity has an AWESOME bare floor tool - called the WoW tool. The Kirby's bare floor tool is awful.
You can also get the power nozzle of the Simplicity under low things - the Kirby is a MONSTER (you would be forced to use the hose and play mechanic to get it connected to the Kirby - just to clean under the coffee table). These are the true differences, from a design perspective, between the Simplicity and the Kirby. Ultimately it's up to you. I have a one year and two month old Kirby Sentria 2 that I can't unload on anyone. When I realized how much sand and grit it was leaving in my new carpets, I decided it had to go. Can't find anyone who wants to buy it. | ||
| Post# 334003 , Reply# 12 9/15/2015 at 15:17 (3,138 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
Hi, JrBaker, I'm sure you will be you will given lots of opinions on this site. Some more biased than others. The Kirby Avalir is a great machine. Rated (1st place) for reliability by consumer magazines whereas some of the others mentioned fall quite a bit lower down the list.
Tom, you said "I can't unload on anyone" but didn't CharlesKirby66 on here express a interest in your Sentria II the other week...
James This post was last edited 09/15/2015 at 18:02 | ||
| Post# 334005 , Reply# 13 9/15/2015 at 15:21 (3,138 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 334007 , Reply# 14 9/15/2015 at 15:50 (3,138 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA) | ||
Kirby all day! @jrbaker- Kirby Avalir, all the way. The farther your motor from the nozzle and carpet, the less suction-power and air-flow present on the carpet, and thereby less deep-cleaning being done. Using the Kirby Avalir as a straight-suction upright would be a good option if your carpet gets pulled too far into the nozzle. Also, I use my Ultimate G Diamond under my coffee table, piano, in tight closets, even all the way under the bed with no hassle other than tipping the handle down.
@kirbymodel2c- THANK YOU for keeping it real and for remembering me!
@dysonman1- I surmised from your lack of response last week that you were not interested in getting rid of your Sentria II. But you are?! YAY!!! | ||
| Post# 334009 , Reply# 15 9/15/2015 at 16:10 (3,138 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Hello again JrBaker, I just want to stress again the need for a high quality upright vacuum like the Kirby Avalir for those Frieze carpets. I own a Kirby Sentria which is very similar to the Avalir and I wouldn't trade it foe anything else except maybe a new Avalir.
In my humble opinion, the canister powerhead just wont have the horsepower you will need for a deep down clean. There is no advantage in having a metal brushroll over a high quality wooden one except that it is easier to replace the whole brushroll once every 5-7 years than it is to replace brush strips every 2-3 years. The Kirby has an adjustable brushroll to compensate for brush wear. The Gusto does not.
I think that the best thing for you to do at this point is to schedule an In-Home demonstration of the Kirby Avalir in your home so you can try it out yourself and make an informed decision about what to buy. Good Luck with whichever machine you decide to buy.
Stan | ||
| Post# 334090 , Reply# 19 9/16/2015 at 22:11 (3,137 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.) | ||
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Bravo Steve, excellent and thoughtful post! | ||
Post# 335450 , Reply# 22 10/9/2015 at 00:51 (3,115 days old) by Durango159  (State College, PA) |
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Congratulations on 2 great cleaners!!
Hopefully you're finding that both cleaners are serving you well. My bet is that you're really enjoying the varying levels of suction power and height adjustments that the Simplicity has to offer. Simplicity are Riccar canisters are one of if not the best in the industry!! Lots of options, tons of power. Surely capable to clean every square inch of a home! Happy Vacuuming! | ||
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