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My Kirby update - a year into ownership...
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Post# 333364   9/6/2015 at 11:44 (3,148 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I've been meaning to do this for some time now.
In less than a month my Kirby Sentria2 will be a year old! However the last year hasn't been as smooth as I'd hoped!!!

Heres a link to my thread when I first bought the machine - www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

So a quick skim of things - I bought the machine brand spanking new from my local Kirby dealer. I paid just over £1000 for the machine with all the dry use tools, shampoo system and zip brush.

I'd also asked them to order in the hard floor polishing head / waxing system, the turbo sander and the handi butler.
A few weeks went by and they eventually said they couldn't obtain any of the extras I wanted. The handi butler wasn't obtainable because Kirby didn't make it for the Sentria2 machine and the hard floor kit and sander because apparently they couldn't order just the one for me - apparently they had to order in bulk - something they were unwilling to do for these parts as demand for them is low. I wasn't hugely bothered - I only wanted them so that I had the COMPLETE system.

Fast forward a few months and I found a hard floor polishing kit on ebay complete with the wax applicator arm. Brand new, boxed and most importantly for the Sentria2. For £60 I couldnt buy it quick enough.
I'm keeping my eyes out for a brand new boxed sander in the Sentria2 colour scheme.

Here are a few pics of the machine as it stands a few weeks ago. I took these while I was having a tidy round and had all the extras out to arrange them in their storage area better.....

The machine hasn't been my daily driver for the whole year - there was a period a while back where I was only using it every now and again, however recently it is back as my firm favourite. In fact using anything else leaves me feeling like the carpets aren't really clean.
I know some of you find Kirbys big and bulky, however having used it for so long it feels normal to me and the weight and size are not an issue at all.

I've changed the belt once so far, and any extras such as bags, belts and shampoo will always be genuine parts....
I accidentaly vacuumed up a steel nail (maybe about 1" long) a few months back. I was horrified. Although I can't see a single mark on the fan thankfully!


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Post# 333366 , Reply# 1   9/6/2015 at 11:49 (3,148 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I'm very pleased with myself for keeping it in such good condition. I hate it when things get bashed up. The only real signs of use are light scuffs to the rubber bumper - something that can't really be avoided on a daily driver. I keep telling myself that it's not an issue and that I'll order a new bumper when this one starts to look really tired.

For a years use I don't think it looks too shabby though!





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Post# 333368 , Reply# 2   9/6/2015 at 12:10 (3,148 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        
NOW HERES THE BIGGEST ISSUE I'VE HAD......

Around two and a half months ago the mains cable developed a fault. If you twisted it in the wrong direction it would cut the power. The break was where I had the cable clipped unto the upper cable grip on the cord hook.

I bought a Diamond Edition brand new a few years ago and that developed the same issue down by the emptor. I assume it's a common issue on the cable Kirby use?

Anyway I contacted my local dealer and informed them of the issue however due to my work pattern it was a few weeks before they could come to me.

TWO MONTHS ago the Kirby guy came to look at my machine. He confirmed the cable was faulty but couldn't replace it as they were out of stock.

Not an issue though, they had already ordered more and it should take less than a week to get them. My machine was still useable as long as I held that area of cable and didn't twist it.

Long story short - I was fobbed off with excuse after excuse for two months. Their order didn't arrive ect ect and in the end I had to contact Kirby UK. I don't know what they said to my local dealer but within minutes they were on the phone wanting to come and fit the cable!

The guy that came to fit it gave me some BS story about how there was a global shortage and there were no new genuine cables anywhere in the world!!

Anyway, they fitted a new cable. Sadly it's in the Sentria1 colour but I'm just glad to have a working cable. I now no longer use the cable grip on the upper cord hook (pictured) to avoid stressing a concentrated area of the cable - hopefully to avoid this happening again.

He claims they had to buy a brand new machine and take the cable from it just to fix my machine because of the 'global shortage'.
He also told me some other rubbish such as I need to have the machine serviced every year as the tech drive needs oiling and dirt will build up behind the fan case and cause the machine to over heat.

He also told me that although the warranty is 3 years, in the second year I have to pay labour and call out costs and the 3rd year only covers the motor. I think this is utter rubbish and will be reporting these claims to Kirby UK.

I will also no longer be using my local dealer again. The nearest other dealer is well over 100 miles away... a distance I will be willing to travel as I'm so unhappy with the aftercare service from my local dealer who is only 5 minutes up the road!

Anyway the new cable was only fitted last week so heres a picture of the machine with the new cable too...


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Post# 333370 , Reply# 3   9/6/2015 at 12:28 (3,148 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I've also bought an AEG Rapid Clean. This is so that on day to day 'quick' cleaning I don't have to mess about with the Kirby hose. I now only get the Kirby tools out when I'm doing a BIG clean every other week or so.

This saves so much time and makes the Kirby even more of a joy to use as theres no faffing about when I'm in a hurry.

So. A year in. Would I buy the machine again? Yes!

I love my Kirby. Its built like a tank and I never worry about any dirt being missed when I use it. It's basically everything I could want in a vacuum. Well built, unbeatable cleaning power IMHO and its just something you KNOW is going to last.

Fair enough the cable failed - this wouldn't of been an issue at all had my local dealer stepped up to the mark and dealt with it as they should.

I use the shampoo system every few months to keep our carpets looking fresh, I've even used the floor care kit to wax and polish the kitchen floor. Every part of the machine gets used at some point.

I can see this being my daily driver for many many years and IF I ever decide to replace it, it will likely be for another new Kirby.

Altough having said that I'll feel very let down if this one isn't still going strong in 30 years!

So yeah.... If you hadn't already guessed, I love my Kirby haha

I'd even go so far as to say I'm more pleased with it now than I was when I first bought it. Now that I'm fully used to the size and weight, running the Kirby round the house feels as easy as pie :)


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Post# 333372 , Reply# 4   9/6/2015 at 12:49 (3,148 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Mr Matt, I'm glad your still happy with your Kirby. He looks as shiney as ever.

If you want a Sentria II turbo sander Kent is selling them on ebay... at $35 and $23 postage to the UK.

It's in the new style box by the looks of it but if you want one in the original Sentria II box just keep your eyes pealed on ebay.

 
 
eBay item number:
181771171215
 
Shame about the cord. At least it's been sorted now. I have one of the first Sentria IIs and they came with the Sentria 1 colored cord from new.
I'm glad your fan is ok after sucking up that nail.
I might have to get my daily driver Kirby shampooing this week... Your Kirby Sentria II looks very smart in the pic where it's shampooing.
 
If ever your popping by this way let me know. Your welcome to pop in.
 
James.cool
 
P.S still love your carpet.
 
 

Post# 333386 , Reply# 5   9/6/2015 at 15:19 (3,148 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Hi Matt,

I got my Sentria 1 about 3 years ago. It was a fully refurbished machine that I got off ebay. It has been my daily driver since I got it and have never had a problem with the mains cable. I always keep the cable clamped in the upper hook and still no problem with it. You just seem to have run into bad luck with your cable.

 

As far as sucking up a 1 inch nail, I would not worry about that. I have sucked up many small small items with my Sentria such as screws, metal washers, small coins, etc. The new white Amodel fan in your Sentria II is extremely durable. Amodel is 300%  stronger than Kevlar and much less likely to break than the metal fans Kirby used to use prior to 1980.

 

If you would like to read up on how Kirby and NASA collaborated to develop the Amodel fan, check out the link below.



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Post# 333391 , Reply# 6   9/6/2015 at 16:49 (3,148 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Thanks for the info guys.

Regarding it still being shiny... I need to sit down and give it a propper polish as I think it's lost some of its luster. However it's only ever been wiped down with a duster so far so it should come up a lot nicer once it's seen a bit of metal polish - I use Autosol.

I'll have to pull my finger out and get myself down James, be good to speak in person rather than email and text!


Post# 333438 , Reply# 7   9/7/2015 at 16:44 (3,147 days old) by Vacuummania ()        
Congrats!

Nice writeup on your "Kirby year" experience. I absolutely love my Kirbys! I've tried so many different brand and types of vacuums, but I always come back to the Kirby.

I think that many people judge them without trying to live with them for a while and give them a chance to shine.
I'll admit that they're heavy to lug up stairs and conversion into a canister is a pain in the butt. To combat this, I have one on each level of my house and I generally use my lovely Electroluxes for canister work.

Bottom line: Tech Drive makes vacuuming so much easier, they really agitate the carpet, quality and reliability are exceptional, and parts support is incredible (and affordable). Sadly, many dealers can make life miserable - though that can happen with any vacuum, of course.


Post# 333449 , Reply# 8   9/7/2015 at 17:37 (3,147 days old) by seanc (Cambridge, United Kingdom)        

I like my G4 a lot for its upright cleaning ability and flexibility to turn into a canister. Unfortunately my housemates and OH hate it.
"Why do I need gears on my vacuum?!" they say.

Its days are numbered as I'm likely moving to a much smaller house in the next month and won't have space.
It's replacement is a used Sebo K3 Premium, which is another story in itself.

Anyone in the market for a Kirby G4 around Cambridge/Bedfordshire?


Post# 333459 , Reply# 9   9/7/2015 at 20:13 (3,147 days old) by dedede ()        

I've not had a cord problem. But kudos to you on making them fix it. If I got that much push back I'd just buy a cord online and move on.

Post# 333465 , Reply# 10   9/7/2015 at 21:35 (3,147 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Vacuummania wrote:
I think that many people judge them without trying to live with them for a while and give them a chance to shine.
I'll admit that they're heavy to lug up stairs and conversion into a canister is a pain in the butt. To combat this, I have one on each level of my house and I generally use my lovely Electroluxes for canister work.

I reply:
I do the same except I live in a one-story house so no problem with stairs. When I was in my two-story apartment, my Kirby Gsix stayed downstairs, my Electrolux 1205 stayed upstairs and I also did the steps with it. The Electrolux canisters are great for the steps because they're just the right size and shape to rest on a step and remain stable. I have no doubt that was part of their design.

My Kirby Heritage I was briefly an upstairs machine at my apartment until my (now ex) girlfriend 'borrowed' it after she threw her Oreck in the dumpster. I guess I can write that one off the inventory now.


Post# 333467 , Reply# 11   9/7/2015 at 22:00 (3,147 days old) by dedede ()        

Am I the only person who really doesn't mind the weight? I carry mine up and down stairs everytime I use it. It's not light, but it's fine.

The frustrating part is the hose. It's usually fine, but sometimes you put it back into upright mode and then notice that last cobweb...


Post# 333487 , Reply# 12   9/8/2015 at 10:01 (3,146 days old) by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

I've got a very long hose with mine. It allows me to put the K in the middle of the room (think AirWay) and clean the whole room+ without moving it.

Post# 333492 , Reply# 13   9/8/2015 at 11:26 (3,146 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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"I think that many people judge them without trying to live with them for a while and give them a chance to shine."

I grew up with one, and I've had 4 since I started collecting when I was 17.
Still don't like em 😜


Post# 333494 , Reply# 14   9/8/2015 at 11:37 (3,146 days old) by Turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Well anyone who knows me knows that I never but never throw away or resell or give away a vac for good, once I have something in my collection it stays.

With one exception. The Kirby Heritage I bought. It was sold on within 2 months and Ive never been tempted for one since.

Glad it works for you but theyre not exactly everyday cleaners for anyone who just wants the job done so they can actually go off and live life.

I dont understand the hype but then I do think theres more to life than chasing attachments and hoses especially when there are plenty of machines that clean as well as or of not better than a Kirby.

Personal mileage may vary and as much as I like a clean home and vacuuming there are so many other things that I want to make the most of in the small amount of time I have on this planet. Messing around with one of these for a few sofa crumbs and a bit of hose poking when another cleaner can get it done in 1/3 of the time just isnt me.

Sounds harsh and I dont mean to be rude , great carpet cleaners and they groom but IMO they are not ideal in any way for above floor and general cleaning when one simply wants the job done.



Post# 333495 , Reply# 15   9/8/2015 at 11:42 (3,146 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I agree. Too big, too heavy, too inconvenient. I'm sure they're great when you have large open spaces of carpet, but who wants to live in an empty living room.

My mother hated ours. Our other vacuum did the same job in half the time. As a full time working parent with 4 kids, why waste time?

Not to mention the price of the damn things new and the notorious pressure sales tactics that the reps will use to get a sale. A new Kirby costs more than my house costs to run each month.


Post# 333497 , Reply# 16   9/8/2015 at 11:45 (3,146 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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God, we're going to be chased out of VacuumTown by angry mob waving pitch forks and crevice tools for this LOL!

Post# 333502 , Reply# 17   9/8/2015 at 14:25 (3,146 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Okay.... so a few points to clarify....

----- "theyre not exactly everyday cleaners for anyone who just wants the job done so they can actually go off and live life" -----

I can whip around our house with the Kirby just as quick, if not quicker than I can with any other vacuum. When I vacuum I'm not doing it for pleasure, I'm doing it because it needs doing and I want it done properly and quickly.


-----"Messing around with one of these for a few sofa crumbs and a bit of hose poking when another cleaner can get it done in 1/3 of the time just isnt me"-----

Nor me. I can easily go weeks without using the Kirby hose. Few crumbs on the sofa? Sweep them onto the floor. Stairs? I just lift the Kirby up and vacuum them with the main machine. Crumbs around the edges in the kitchen? The suction from the main floor head has always been enough to pull them in so far. SHOULD I need to quickly use a hose for 'a few crumbs' I just whip the AEG hand held out. Takes seconds. But then again hooking the hose onto the Kirby takes seconds too when you're used to the machine as a daily driver.

-----"they are not ideal in any way for above floor and general cleaning when one simply wants the job done"-----

The come with every nozzle you can think of. How is that not ideal?
As already stated, I don't want to spend all day vacuuming. If I'm doing a deep clean I'll vacuum an entire level of the house with the machine in normal mode, then hook up the hose and go around doing any jobs that need above floor cleaning. I can deep clean the entire house from top to bottom using only the Kirby and only need to hook the hose up once or twice. Hardly an issue. Its all about adapting your method of cleaning to the way the machine works. Few crumbs in each room that need the hose? I'll come back to them and go around getting them all at once rather than hooking up the house multiple times.

-----I agree. Too big, too heavy, too inconvenient. I'm sure they're great when you have large open spaces of carpet"-----

I'll put this in a differnt context... Take somebody who has only ever driven a normal car. Put them behind the wheel of a HGV. Imagine how daunting the size would be and how they would struggle to drive it, if they could manage to drive it at all.
Now take someone who drives HGV's for a living, its second nature to them and they can almost do it with their eyes closed.
Same applies to the Kirby in a way... I'm used to it. I'm not some weak little old woman, I'm a 27 y/o man. Weight is not an issue at all for me, nor is the size, it feels normal. I've never had an issue of it being too big or heavy to vacuum anywhere and we live in a 'normal' sized house.
In another context, I drive busses and coaches for a living and can quite confidently negotiate things that some people would struggle to do in a small car. It's all about being used to and comfortable with the size of the thing you're controlling.

-----"Not to mention the price of the damn things new"-----
To some people the price of a Kirby is not an issue. It's no different to spending a thousand pounds on a Miele washing machine. I don't see how price is even an issue. You either have the money and are happy to spend it, or you don't and buy something cheaper.


I'm not going to lie. When I first got the machine it WAS an effort to use. I was in the habbit where EVERY time I'd vacuum I'd get the hose and vacuum all around the edges, dust the skirting boards, down the sides of the sofa ect ect and it WAS a faff on. The machine also felt HUGE. Even before I'd got the Kirby I could easilly spend an hour vaccuming the house in my OCD ways. Now? I can do the whole house on a 'day to day' vacuuming session in 15 minutes. If that. It's still just as clean.

I've adapted my ways to the machine. It's also helped me relax a bit more when it comes to cleaning and I actually SAVE time because of it.
I DON'T need to use the hose EVERY time I vacuum because the edges and behind the sofa ect ect only need doing periodically. I DON'T need to get the hose and vacuum the risers of the stairs every time. Just lifting the machine up with the main nozzle on and doing the treads is more than enough. I whip the machine out, vacuum the main floor area and thats it done. It's just as clean as it was a year ago when I'd spend ages on my hands and knees doing all the edges every time ect. Should I NEED to use a hose for a minor job, I can whip out the AEG. Yes you could argue that I've had to buy a hand vac, but thats down to sheer laziness and me wanting another gadget. It comes in handy for the car. I could have the hose on the Kirby just as quick as I can plug the AEG into the plug socket.

Take the AEG out of the question, lets say I never bought it, cleaning the house would be just as quick and easy for me.

I can totally understand that they're not for everybody.

It all boils down to personal opinion... you think the Kirby is heavy.... My grandmother thinks an ORECK is heavy!!


Post# 333504 , Reply# 18   9/8/2015 at 14:33 (3,146 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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The "Haters gonna hate" and "Bitches gonna bitch" hay hoo.

 

Jamescool


Post# 333506 , Reply# 19   9/8/2015 at 15:04 (3,146 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Wooah get me some sun glasses, that Kirby is B)
PS Manchestervacs sell kirby cables but in purple


Post# 333511 , Reply# 20   9/8/2015 at 15:55 (3,146 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Just a different perspective proving that no one cleaner suits everyone :). There's nothing wrong with debating such things.

Post# 333516 , Reply# 21   9/8/2015 at 16:12 (3,146 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Exactly.

For me the Kirby works perfectly. Fair enough if I was expecting to use it like a Dyson and keep swapping between the main head and tools every 5 seconds it would be a HUGE pain. But you adapt your cleaning methods to the way the Kirby works and its just as easy, if not easier IMHO.


Post# 333580 , Reply# 22   9/9/2015 at 11:27 (3,145 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I agree 100% with Matt and I couldn't have said it any better than he did.

 

 

I can sum it all up in three words. Kirby = Quality-Performance-Durability!

 

I have 5 fully restored Kirbys in my collection and love them all and I take turns using them. I shampooed my carpets with my Sentria back in July and my carpets have never looked better.


Post# 333718 , Reply# 23   9/11/2015 at 14:19 (3,143 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Well.... Firstly I've reported my local Kirby dealer to Kirby UK....

Few of the lies I've been told by the service guy -

1. The machine has a 3 year warranty but after the first year I have to pay call out and labour charges. The 3rd year only covers the motor and tech drive. Kirby UK have confirmed its 3 years parts AND labour on the whole machine.

2. Took so long to get a cable for my machine as there is a global shortage. Kirby UK have said they have a warehouse full of cables.

3. They had to scrap a brand new machine and use it as parts to get a cable for my machine. Ties in with the above lie.

4. I should get my machine serviced once a year as the Tech Drive needs oiling and the front bearing area / behind the fan needs cleaning. Kirby UK have confirmed the machine needs NO oiling or such like and the service is NOT needed.

I've also reported them for adjusting an unworn brushroll to wear setting number two on a prev machine I bought from them - I assume to shorten the life so they can sell me a new one.

Kirby UK were very apologetic.

And I've finally gotten round to giving the machine a polish! Don't know if it will show but on the picture of the head by itself I've only done the right hand side and not touched the left. You could see a big difference in person.

The machine now shines like it did the day it came out of the box :-)



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Post# 333720 , Reply# 24   9/11/2015 at 14:45 (3,143 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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think your going to have to wear white gloves now when you use it so you don't get finger prints on it....

 

I think they'll suit you.laughing

 

Jamescool


Post# 333725 , Reply# 25   9/11/2015 at 16:00 (3,143 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

haha I thought the same James!

Can't beat a freshly polished Kirby. Was well worth the 45 mins I sat playing.

Gave all the plastic trim bits a wipe over with a damp cloth too and checked the brushroll bearings were clear of threads ect

These machines are deffo boys toys I think


Post# 333728 , Reply# 26   9/11/2015 at 17:50 (3,143 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I like the Kirby vacuums, although I never used one, I have a question.
With all that airflow the carpet gets sucked up into the brushbar, don't the bristles wear out? I mean there's no beaters but only bristles yet its like the most powerful vacuum


Post# 333799 , Reply# 27   9/12/2015 at 11:25 (3,142 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Tayyab,

A new Kirby bush roll will last 5 to 7 years depending on the type of carpet and how often you hoover (or vacuum) your carpet. There are 3 brush roll height settings on a Kirby and you would typically lower the brushes as they wear one notch every 2 years or so, then it would be time to install a new brush roll after a couple of years on the third setting. The secret to the Kirby brush roll longevity is very high quality brushes.

 

To see how easy this is, watch the video.



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Post# 333801 , Reply# 28   9/12/2015 at 12:42 (3,142 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

5 to 7 years?! *horrified face*

I kept my Diamond Edition for two, possibly three years from it being brand new and the brush showed no wear at all.... and that was with near daily use as we had two dogs at the time.

My Sentria II is pretty much a year and shows zero wear.

I recently rebuilt a Legend II that had been a households main vac for 25 years and it still had the original brush with plenty of life left in it. Granted they didn't have kids or pets so it had only seen average use.

In fact most of the Heritage and Legend machines I see (25+ years old) still have the original brush rolls in them.... granted they've seen better days but they still clean well and have a decent amount of life left in them.

I honestly expect the brush on my machine to last 10 - 15 years minimum. And thats with what I'd class as above average use as I go and deep clean for an elderly relative every few weeks with the Kirby too. If it doesn't see 15 years I'll feel hard done by LOL


Post# 333821 , Reply# 29   9/12/2015 at 16:24 (3,142 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
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I have to agree. The only one of my Kirbys that I've replaced a brush roll on was my G5, which I replaced immediately upon receiving it. The bearing on one side had frozen up and the square plastic thingy (I know, not a technical term, but I don't know what it's really called) that holds it in place inside the nozzle had melted from friction. The bristles were every bit as good as those on either of my Gsixes. The Heritage 1 that my (now ex) girlfriend "borrowed" a couple of years ago still has its original silver brush roll and works very well. I doubt very much I'll be getting that machine back.

Given the number of vacuum cleaners I have and frequency with which DON'T vacuum, my brush rolls should last forever ;)


Post# 333824 , Reply# 30   9/12/2015 at 16:33 (3,142 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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"I honestly expect the brush on my machine to last 10 - 15 years minimum."

 

You must not be lowering the floor nozzle down enough so that the brushes are contacting the carpet properly and therefore not thoroughly cleaning it. Otherwise, you must be wearing your brushes down to frazzled nubs which will impair the ability of the brushes to beat and vibrate the carpet.

 

My good friend used to work in a vac shop and he told stories of  many folks who brought in their early G series Kirbys for repair because they no longer cleaned well. It turned out that the machine was about 10 years old and still had the original brush roll in it. The brushes were worn so much that they were not extending past the rugplate anymore. He installed a new belt and brush roll and the problem was solved. So it is always best to replace the brush roll before the brushes are worn to the point of loss of cleaning performance, typically around 5-7 years of average use.

 


Post# 333833 , Reply# 31   9/12/2015 at 17:02 (3,142 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

No, I'd never wear a brush roll down to little nubs.

Here are a few pics of my machines brush at a year old.... JUST taken them. You can also see how far they protrude the rug plate. The only sign it's even been used is where the belt has ran on the wood. Once the brushes no longer protrude the rug plate to a satisfactory level I will change it to wear setting No.2..... but that will take years.

I've genuinely never seen a Kirby need a new brush. Ive had a few Heritage machines that have been adjusted to the max but the brushes still protruded the rug plate the same as what mine currently do on the first wear setting No.1.

I can only assume the fact UK homes are generally smaller mean the machines see less operating hours than what they do in America? Hence the brushes last so much longer.

My height adjustment is spot on too. Lower till the tone changes then lower one more click.


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Post# 333834 , Reply# 32   9/12/2015 at 17:12 (3,142 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Here are two pics of the brush from the last Legend2 I restored.

25 years old.... was adjusted 80% out. Brushes protruded as much as my Sentria2's do and it cleaned just as well too...



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Post# 333835 , Reply# 33   9/12/2015 at 17:21 (3,142 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Please don't think I'm 'having a go' at you sptyks.... I've just never seen a Kirby thats had household use need a new brushroll here in the UK. Even ones that are 25+ years old.

Hence I expect my Sentria brush to last 10 - 15 years. And when it does get replaced it will probably still have SOME life left in it.

Had I kept that Legend I'd of probably changed the brush... Not because there was anything wrong with the old one... it worked perfectly.... me changing it would of purely been because it was 'old' and I'd of wanted one with zero miles so I knew I was getting the best clean possible.

I'm a bit anal like that. Tend to get bored of waiting for things to wear out and if I know they're nearing the end of their service life I'll replace them before they actually fail.


Post# 333841 , Reply# 34   9/12/2015 at 19:03 (3,142 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Of course your Sentria brush roll looks new! it's only 1/7th through it's life cycle!

 

Now on the other hand, those Heritage brushes do look quite worn to me.

 

There's no point in continuing this argument. I will replace my brush roll in about 5 more years or so (the machine is around 2 years old now) and I'll feel good about spending $25 on a new brush roll to keep my Sentria's cleaning ability top notch. You will replace yours in about 15-20 years from now, and that's fine with me. To each his own.

 


Post# 334381 , Reply# 35   9/21/2015 at 09:16 (3,134 days old) by portapower (BRUNSWICK)        

Matt.
I found that Mr. Clean Magic Erasers work really well on getting the scuff marks off vacuum rubber bumpers. Don't know if they are available on your side of the pond.
I also love my Kirbys. Don't pay attention to the haters! Different strokes for different folks. And as far as that nasty comment from Turbomaster -- I'm sure you have a wonderful and full life.


Post# 334402 , Reply# 36   9/21/2015 at 14:39 (3,133 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        
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I just got a Kirby Heritage last week, in honor of my birth year.  I also have in my less-than-year-old personal Kirby collection: 515, Dual Sanitronic 50, and Ultimate G Diamond Edition.  I have also fixed up two Kirby Generation 3's, two G4's, two Dual Sanitronic 80's, another Dual Sanitronic 50, and a Kirby 519.  Further, my Mom owns a Sentria II and my wicked grandmother owns a Sentria.

 

I have obviously driven multiple Kirby units.   I can tell you from personal experience that the Kirby Heritage is the WORST performer of all the above models.  As member Kirby519 shared with me, the disposable bag fill tube on the Tradition and Heritage was about the same size as the regular attachment hose, which drastically limited air-flow.  With the combination of the restricted airflow and the largest nozzle in Kirby history, you have compromised performance from the typically high Kirby standard.  

 

I would beg of you not to judge the entire Kirby line based on the Heritage model.  The Heritage was a snazzy looking unit, just not the typical Kirby performance that we Kirby Lovers have come to expect.



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