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Why Used Vacuums Won't Sell
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Post# 333342   9/6/2015 at 00:58 (3,147 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Is there practically no one who wants any used vacuums now?

I ask because I'm trying to get rid of a few of my vacuum cleaners, and the dilemma I face over getting more is because the garage at my house is full to the brim. No matter what I do, my goals of getting something in the future may be at least temporarily dashed with two more Kirbys on the way from my sister and grandparents.

I want to sell some of them but would like to get money from them as well in order to buy the ones I want in the future. I paid at most $25 for four of them.

I thank you for any suggestions in advance.

~Ben


Post# 333352 , Reply# 1   9/6/2015 at 07:44 (3,147 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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I would consider buying from you
imdafarmer5088@gmail.com
Send me an email and we can decide if i will buy one or not
Thanks!
Andy


Post# 333353 , Reply# 2   9/6/2015 at 08:00 (3,147 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
It depends.

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I've sold over one hundred vacuum cleaners through craigslist since 2011. With four and a half years of experience, here is what i've learned:

-People haggle. Don't expect to sell it for your original asking price.

-Bagless is king. It doesn't matter how old it is. Most people want a bagless vacuum and for a low price, aren't bothered as much by outdated cartridge filtered baglesses.

-Don't expect to always make a profit. Some machines, I lose a ton of money on. Others I make a good profit or only a couple dollars.

-Vintage vacuums are a HARD, HARD sell. I've never made much money selling vintage machines. Most people who buy vintage vacuums from me want it because of a vac from their childhood, or they are into vintage appliances.

-Vacuums over $50 are VERY difficult to sell. I wanted $130 originally for my Filter Queen Majestic. I sold it for only $30. Nobody wants to pay that much, even for a great, high quality machine. I usually sell a vacuum for between $15-30. If I get lucky, I'll make a little more. The most i've ever sold an individual vacuum for was $100. It was a Kirby Ultimate G.


Post# 333360 , Reply# 3   9/6/2015 at 10:38 (3,147 days old) by lha1992 (Everett, Washington )        

Hey buddy I'd be willing to buy those vacuums for what you bought them for! Just give me shipping price to 98204 an we'll get the ball rolling!

Post# 333363 , Reply# 4   9/6/2015 at 10:59 (3,147 days old) by Rvarley (illinois)        
A good argument for buying used

When I see all the used Kirbies on Craigslist, including almost new Sentria 2's for a fraction of the cost of new, I scratch my head at why anyone would buy new - or at least a new Kirby. I don't see many Mieles on CL and I've sold a couple of them with no problem - inducing a 10 year old canister for $150 and it only took a day. the machines I've sold that aren't so popular, i think sold because I cleaned them up very well and stressed the fact that the machine was clean in my posting. Nobody wants a stinky, dirty vacuum. At the very least, change the bag and make sure it doesn't smell when it is turned on.

On the popularity of bagless, I think people are impressed because the see the dirt every time they vacuum. I have a old Kirby with a saniemptor and cloth shake out bag and must admit that I'm impressed when I see what comes out of it. Though I'm sure it doesn't do any better job than my bagged vacuums and is a lot messier to clean.


Post# 333373 , Reply# 5   9/6/2015 at 13:18 (3,147 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Laith,

I replied to your e-mail message you sent me. I gave you pictures of the five vacuums that I intend to get rid of.

~Ben


Post# 333376 , Reply# 6   9/6/2015 at 13:37 (3,147 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

People want something for nothin' these days. . .

Post# 333392 , Reply# 7   9/6/2015 at 16:49 (3,147 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        

Well, unless it's something special that is always expensive and hard to find nobody is going to pay good money for a used vacuum.
In 90 I bought my first Royal 413 canister with everything from a Kirky salesman for 200 bucks becuase my old one was beyond fixing and this one was basicaly new.
Since then I have nursed it along replacing parts as they broke or wore out. Recntly I found a Starks/Royal 4650 with everything and a bunch of Royal bags for 25 becuase the speed and suction control wires in the hose were open but it did work. I tried the straight blower part and the power head and everything worked fine in that setting and replaced the hose later.
I'm not going to pay full retail for anything, especialy used, but I like the older ones becuase they are built so much better and parts are easy to replace and find, except for the old Royal hoses, but they do turn up.
With all the plastic vacs going for less then 200 it's not surpring most folks wont buy a older vac for any money and all of them want a bagless as that's what all the comersials tell them they need and that they are so much more sanitary and don't spew dust in the with with their hepa filters.
None of my Royals have ever spewed dust either and the bags are cheap and you just toss it when full and don't make a mess.

I used to repair TV's for fun and profit but don't do that anymore for the same reasons. Nobody will buy a used set, all the older ones don't do digital or HD and are basicaly useless, and nobody does board level repairs anymore. They just buy a new board or assembly and screw it in. Most flat screens are done when they break and folks just toss them and buy another cheap one on sale at Best Buy or someplace.
I used to be able to sell a crappy working set for 50 bucks and sold plenty, a really nice clean sharp set would bring 150 to 200 easily.
Now older sets are everywhere for 10 bucks or free just to get rid of the heavy dinosuars.
Everything eventually changes and we adapt or die. My garage used to be full of parts and sets and now I've pretty much tosssed everything but still have a few cool peices of test and repair gear and meters just becuase.


Post# 333402 , Reply# 8   9/6/2015 at 20:07 (3,147 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
You might also consider..

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most people think of a used vacuum like a used mattress, kinda gross.
So they don't even look for them in Craigslist etc.
Also you can buy a new one (Bissell/Eureka) at Walmart for under $50. Which will probably work fine for the 18 months they need it until they move on to their next apartment, job, school, etc.
And hard surface floors are extremely popular as well.
If a vacuum is heavy, has a learning curve, or needs a belt or bag changed with any kind of regularity furgedaboutit . Miele seems the exception, Kirby has a fading(?) following, while Dyson /Shark are asked for by name.
Tacony may be the one who reteaches America what a vacuum ought to be, they certainly have my attention.
My off the cuff two cents painted with a very broad brush.
And before ya flame me let me say, i love the quality vacs out there, but i understand why they don't sell like they used to.


Post# 333403 , Reply# 9   9/6/2015 at 21:42 (3,147 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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We live in a germaphobic society today. Many people can't even stand their own dirt, much less somebody else's. No wonder they don't want used vacuum cleaners.

I am continually amused by the perceived "convenience" of bagless vacuums because if you maintain them properly they're really quite high maintenance machines and a heck of a lot messier than a bagged one. I mean, what could be neater and cleaner than having all your dirt automatically bagged up for disposal as you go.


Post# 333404 , Reply# 10   9/6/2015 at 21:47 (3,147 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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True! I was at Granmothers and the Kenmore canister (circa 2000) had a full bag. it packed hard as a brick before it lost suction. grandpa said he changes it 2 months ago, and the same thing happened! I taped the bag shut and pitched it. The only mess i made was that the bag cover on that vacuum never quite latched right. ill fix that one of these days. I prefer bagged vacuums. I dont have to mess with dirt or dust and there is the thrill of your Electrolux telling you the bag is full, or ejecting it!

Post# 333405 , Reply# 11   9/6/2015 at 22:14 (3,147 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

Someone gave us a new Shark vacuum a few years back. I don't like it and it is banished to the basement closet.

I can't remember the last time I used it.

The loft and the basement are the only places that have carpet. My 1st and 2nd floors are all hardwood.

It helps that we have central vac as well :)


Post# 333407 , Reply# 12   9/7/2015 at 01:56 (3,146 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

At the Sew&Vac place I visit bagless machines DON'T sell there-they end up in the dumpster-no matter what brand.The higher end bagged machines are the only used ones he sells-along with used good condition bagged central vac units.I would NOT buy a used bagless vac of any kind presently made.

Post# 333418 , Reply# 13   9/7/2015 at 10:34 (3,146 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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My local vac shop does this also, but they seem to sit there getting dusty forever! I got my gorgeous Royal upright there for 100 dollars a year back, like new!

Post# 333421 , Reply# 14   9/7/2015 at 11:13 (3,146 days old) by Mike81 ()        

I just sold my Electrolux UltraPerformer/UltraActive. It was about 2-3 years old and in good condition.
My asking price was 70€, but I barely managed to get 60€.
Those vacuums cost new around 200-250€. (Basic Classic straight suction model).
I sold it because I am not big fan of bagless vacuums and prefer old bagged vacuums.
I really don't understand why bagless is so popular nowadays.
Bagless vacuums are noisier and has less suction power due to the cyclonic system. They also require more maintenance and are messy to empty.
Also modern bags are so efficient at filtering and has long lifespan. So saving on bag costs is bad excuse to buy bagless unit.
For me bagless has only one good point. You can see how much you managed to pick up.


Post# 333422 , Reply# 15   9/7/2015 at 13:36 (3,146 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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t seems that this thread has gone off Topic.

Post# 333423 , Reply# 16   9/7/2015 at 13:37 (3,146 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Post# 333430 , Reply# 17   9/7/2015 at 15:23 (3,146 days old) by Mike81 ()        

There are lots of cheap new vacuums to buy. Many of them look better than they actually are. So many consumer don't want someones old "dirty" machine in their home. Vacuum collectors are also very small group who know the quality / worth to buy vacuum when they see one.
This is my assume.


Post# 333434 , Reply# 18   9/7/2015 at 15:56 (3,146 days old) by lha1992 (Everett, Washington )        

Ben,

I just replied to your email. Looking forward to chatting with you sir!

Thanks,
Laith


Post# 333435 , Reply# 19   9/7/2015 at 15:59 (3,146 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
My advice..

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sanitize the vacuum and accessories. Put on Craig's with pics and state in the ad it has been fully serviced and sanitized by a professional. If the vacuum is anything of quality or vintage sell on Ebay. Make sure it is complete with bags, belts, etc. and/or is rare or for some reason desirable over and above the cost of shipping.
Never use the words "needs" or "broken" and expect to sell it for any amount anywhere unless it is a certified collectors item.
If anybody you know needs a vac and will take care of it, don't hesitate to give one away.
I have noticed very few quality vacs for sale at a reasonable price on Craigs.. But the higher priced vac ads go apparently unanswered week after week.
Also I have stopped acquiring net more vacs. Meaning i have to sell or dispose of at least as many as i come home with.
These shows depicting people buying junk and selling treasures for a meaningful profit are mostly fake.
Vacuum shops throw away much better vacs than many of us here on VL buy...there's a lesson there as far as economics is concerned i believe.



Post# 333442 , Reply# 20   9/7/2015 at 17:00 (3,146 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Laith,

The Royal Dirt Devil 500 Hand Vacuum you mention would be the easiest of your requests to be able to get shipped. It is mostly complete but the box is worn out, and there is no instruction book.

~Ben


Post# 333447 , Reply# 21   9/7/2015 at 17:36 (3,146 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

It's funny. Some of the prices on ebay for a machine that is all rusty are ridiculous.

I've noticed some of the vacs on CL are going for way more than they should also.

It is a disposable society today.


Post# 333462 , Reply# 22   9/7/2015 at 21:02 (3,146 days old) by lha1992 (Everett, Washington )        

Ben, I understand that the hand vac will be the easier of the ones to ship. But I am interested deff in one of the others. I just emailed you back.

Post# 333464 , Reply# 23   9/7/2015 at 21:19 (3,146 days old) by chad (texas)        

A lot of useful items are like that. Folks that aren't collectors find a hard time getting excited about a quality vacuum that might last them the rest of their lives, but will drive a hundred miles for a beer sign that just hangs on the wall. I think it's also convenience. It's expensive to have a vintage vacuum shipped, but there's a walmart around every corner.

Post# 333469 , Reply# 24   9/7/2015 at 22:16 (3,146 days old) by Impfac ()        

I've had tons of luck selling vacuums on eBay.

Post# 333470 , Reply# 25   9/7/2015 at 22:18 (3,146 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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I would prefer interested buyers within the "tri-county" region of Oregon (Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington Counties).

~Ben


Post# 333518 , Reply# 26   9/8/2015 at 16:32 (3,145 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ironically enough I've seen a surge in EBAY UK where older vacuums are concerned; seems like buyers are out to buy something more tried and tested than pay out expensively for a modern, fashionable low power energy efficient vacuum cleaner. There are some good models on sale in shops etc, but given the option based on better build quality or even wider spares etc, I would source older vacuums from certain brands.

Post# 333525 , Reply# 27   9/8/2015 at 18:15 (3,145 days old) by Impfac ()        

It really is all about the brand. Modern dysons, hoovers, dirt devils, and bissells, just don't hold up. Flimsy junk. Kenmore, Panasonic, Miele (especially canisters for all three), Riccar, older/newer metal/commercial vacuums, all generally do fine.

Nobody wants a used Dirt Devil or Hoover Windtunnel because they were garbage before the box was opened =P


Post# 333575 , Reply# 28   9/9/2015 at 10:39 (3,144 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
"Ouch"!

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They're not all horrible. A lot depends on the model AND how they were used OR abused.
A collector might be looking for a certain model to "fill in" his/her collection. Sometimes, I see a 'rare'(to me) model. I'll bid on it. Some are great, and were when they were new years ago.
I recently got a HOOVER 25. at first, I thought it was hideous. After seeing an excellent specimen at my close friend, Tom (A.)'s house, the search was on. There was one on ebay in great shape. It was selling for MEGA bucks! Naturally, no one bid. It went down, I bid, and won! It is a stellar machine, as are many we find on Ebay. Some sellers have inflated ideas of the value of some machines. As we all know: a vacuum is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.I have machines others wouldn't take free of charge, calling Me 'nuts". (Can you see how upset that {doesn't} make me feel)?
I've gotten pristine cleaners on Ebay. Others were dirty. Dirt still in the bag. Dirt is heavy.... at times, causing shipping to be more. Some also don't know how to disassemble, pack or ship an item.
John


Post# 333583 , Reply# 29   9/9/2015 at 11:39 (3,144 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

my Olympia One was shipped to me with a dirty bag still inside.

It also came apart during shipping, creating quite the mess.


Post# 333591 , Reply# 30   9/9/2015 at 13:21 (3,144 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        
Why do people ship dirt?!

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I have received 3 Kirbys on eBay with dirt in the bags.

 

One of them was SO full of dirt, it was pouring out of the fan opening and all in the shipping box.  This was sold for parts, but the parts were all trashed, cracked, or broken, and the box FULL of dirt.  I returned it immediately.

 

Another from eBay seemed legit, but when I turned it on, a huge plume of dust was kicked up and I noticed the unhooked bag hardly inflated and did not lift off the floor (ODD behavior for a vintage Kirby).  After opening the Sani-Emptor trap door, POUNDS of dirt fell out.  It took about 10 minutes to get all the caked dirt out (before doing a proper deep-clean out).

 

Can we all agree not to ship dirt in our sales?  I'd like to think we in this Brotherhood/Sisterhood of Vacuumland have a higher standard of behavior and service than the typical eBay money-monger.


Post# 333592 , Reply# 31   9/9/2015 at 14:07 (3,144 days old) by CoffeeCanMan (Ferndale, MI)        

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I've also received several vacuums via eBay full of dirt...

I have never and will never sell or give away a vacuum that hasn't had the bag laundered.


Post# 333599 , Reply# 32   9/9/2015 at 15:52 (3,144 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Thankfully, none of the vacuums I've bought on eBay shipped with dirty bags. Ironically, I sort of wish the Kirby G5 I got last winter had been shipped with one. I received it with no inner bag and it appeared to have been run that way for some time. The outer cloth bag was absolutely caked on the inside with a fine, light gray (sheet rock?) dust. A lesser machine would have been dumpster fodder, but we're talking about a Kirby here. After trying several times to vacuum it out with my Electrolux 1205, I decided the bag was too dirty and too worn to mess with, especially when I got my hands on a complete bag/fill tube/mini emptor assembly from an Ultimate G in almost pristine condition for $20. It might not have been the "right" bag for the machine, but it was the right one for the job.


Post# 333604 , Reply# 33   9/9/2015 at 18:58 (3,144 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I never try to resell any machines I pick up. I look for sturdy candidates on CL or sidewalk/ yard sales. Cheap enough I will pick them up, do a clean up / recondition and hang onto them until a friend/ family is in need. I sometimes get my purchase price back, but if not, vacuum was saved and I had a project, they have a very cheap and use-able machine. No money to be made that I can see.

Post# 333615 , Reply# 34   9/10/2015 at 01:04 (3,143 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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Unless, of course, it's one of these!


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Post# 333619 , Reply# 35   9/10/2015 at 03:51 (3,143 days old) by Impfac ()        

I stopped buying/selling Kirby's a long time ago... there just isn't a market UNLESS its a G series or newer.

I've sold pleanty of vacuums and never EVER sold them with dirty bags. I'd probably leave negative feedback if someone did that to me. Best bet is to look for top rated sellers with a decent number of items up and a decent amount of feedback-sort out the riff raff and get people that are doing more than selling random junk.


Post# 333664 , Reply# 36   9/10/2015 at 17:20 (3,143 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        
Calem!

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Man, I still cannot get enough of your collection!  Three of those machines are DREAM machines of mine.  You have no idea how fortunate you are to have those in your personal collection!  Have you made any videos of running them?  I'd love to see, never seen or heard them working.


Post# 333682 , Reply# 37   9/10/2015 at 20:43 (3,143 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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Thanks so much, those three were one bully of a fight to get! Sorry, I can't post no movies, all I got is a cheapo digital camera. Whenever I upgrade, I might consider doing it. Many thanks again, and I wish you every success in your collection.



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