Thread Number: 29858  /  Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
CLUB ELECTRO-HYGIENE 3 Wheeler NO model #
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Post# 332282   8/23/2015 at 00:00 (3,166 days old) by daddyoh ()        

I have been picking for about 5 years and I do not think I have ever bought an item I could not figure out the whet/when/why of until now. I have been googling for hours now and can only find clues. Is it a frankenmachine, altered beyond recognition through the years? Or some patchwork early demo model for salesmen? I can't find this arrangement of parts on a single machine anywhere on the web. Maybe no one has posted a picture of this badge, but I can not find one that says "CLUB". The handle attachment has a patent badge, not consistent with other Electro-Hygiene machines I have found. I think I spotted the wooden handle finisher on a vintage Electrolux? Or Eureka? I don't know. I have looked at every old vacuum on the internet at this point and they are starting too bleed together. The crystal cartridge looks just a little different. It has 3 wheels, a detachment plug on the side of the motor, a shake-out bag that says "Made for Royal", no model number, and a 5-digit serial number with no dashes, 22740. It runs like a champ. I am not an expert in anything, and by the very nature of picking you can expect this bad boy to show up on eBay, but I would like to have something more for my description than "weird old vacuum cleaner". So to that end, I shall now digress, and post many pictures and wait to see what the community of vacuum experts thinks of my find.
Thanks!
James


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Post# 332313 , Reply# 1   8/23/2015 at 14:01 (3,165 days old) by chad (texas)        
hard to tell

The early machines weren't very well documented. And, when times get hard, companies use whatever they had on the shelf to build a product to sell. Having said that, I've found cobbled together parts in units that I swore had never been apart. Also, depression era people used what they had to repair what they had. I've even built a few Oldsmo-chevrolets. Make sure you post a link when ya fleabay it, for whatever reason I like stuff like this.

Post# 332314 , Reply# 2   8/23/2015 at 14:18 (3,165 days old) by chad (texas)        

Ok . It's a rebadged Royal. See this link www.ornery.net/Royal_Metal_Uprigh...

Post# 332319 , Reply# 3   8/23/2015 at 15:18 (3,165 days old) by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

Chad, that book was very interesting. I do have a question, the book and other sources use the term "crystal chamber" what does that mean or pertain to?

Post# 332349 , Reply# 4   8/23/2015 at 19:54 (3,165 days old) by daddyoh ()        
yep...

Thanks for the response Chad. I actually saw that article during my marathon of googling Electro-Hygiene. There are so many inconsistencies between my machine and the models in that article that I thought this thing was maybe cobbled up at a vacuum store and sold to make the shop some money off of spare parts. I probably would not be so intrigued with the thing and sold it on that assumption, if it were not for the motor housing. Or more specifically the badges thereon. I cant find another example of a serial number like that nor the CLUB part of the badge, and when I have something that there are no pictures of on the internet it makes me nervous I have something unique and I would hate to screw up a historical piece. Because if it is the cobbled up machine and that is all there is to it, it would probably be worth more in pieces. But if this machine is actually a very early example of Electro-Hygiene attempting to get there product launched or perhaps demonstrated prior to production, then I suspect the machine is much more interesting whole. In that article the model 80 serial # was 80-8116 with apparently 80 representing the model number. My serial # is 22740. If the motor is NOT Electro-Hygiene, that would mean literally every major component of this machine does not match another, and the fan housing is the only thing Electro-Hygiene about it.
I certainly will post here when it goes for sale, i'm not a vacuum collector, and this, or pieces of it perhaps ;-), definitely belong in the collectors' hands.
James


Post# 332358 , Reply# 5   8/23/2015 at 22:41 (3,165 days old) by HisMastersVoice (Ferndale, MI)        

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Mine is similar but not branded with anything that says club. I just picked it up yesterday so excuse the dust.

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Post# 332391 , Reply# 6   8/24/2015 at 12:33 (3,165 days old) by daddyoh ()        
Awesome

Thanks for the pictures! Your crystal chamber looks just like mine. Your motor housing has 2 wheels. I wonder if the single wheeled housing typically dates further back? Also, the snout on mine looks like mid 20's not like the model 80. And even though the motor housing is 3 wheeled (assuming this dates it a bit) the output is on the same side as a model 80, meaning the motor would have to spin in the same direction as a model 80, opposite the mid 20's royals. I would be curious to see the serial# plate if you have the time. I have found a serial typed out but have been unable to find a picture. All the research has made me curious. ;-)
James


Post# 332401 , Reply# 7   8/24/2015 at 14:09 (3,164 days old) by daddyoh ()        
Hmmm.....

Just found a machine the most like mine I have seen so far. It is in the Ornery article mentioned above. He has the Serial # 1033063, which is 7 digits but minus the dash. I wonder if my 5 digit serial number dates mine older than this machine, and I wonder if there is more information about this machine?
James


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Post# 332404 , Reply# 8   8/24/2015 at 14:54 (3,164 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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James,

Your 103 or whatever old Royal you found appears to be quite an early machine going by the single rear wheel and the height adjuster design.

~Ben


Post# 332412 , Reply# 9   8/24/2015 at 15:27 (3,164 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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I'm saying this in complete ignorance, but one thing that stands out about photos of that machine is that it has two different patent plates on it. That makes me lean toward thinking could be a very early 'frankenvac', which in and of itself is pretty darned cool. It's a shame the patent plates don't have the actual patent numbers on them, just dates. That would be an excellent clue to its origins.

Speaking of 'Oldsmo-Chevys', my dad was a district sales manager for Oldsmobile from 1959-1991 and told me of a colleague of his who in the mid-1980s picked up a Cutlass Supreme coupe to drive as a company car. When he got in it, he realized something wasn't quite right. From the factory, it had almost a complete interior for a Chevy Monte Carlo! How that got past quality control is anybody's guess. Lucky for them it got put into company service instead of dealer inventory. For better or worse, the car didn't remain a 'Monte Cutlass' for long. The correct interior components were swapped in at a nearby Olds dealership.


Post# 332436 , Reply# 10   8/24/2015 at 21:21 (3,164 days old) by chad (texas)        
cuffs054

There s actually a thread discussing exactly what a "crystal chamber" does. Looks like snake oil to me, but the fellers talking about it know a LOT more about it than I do. www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

Post# 332484 , Reply# 11   8/25/2015 at 12:50 (3,163 days old) by HisMastersVoice (Ferndale, MI)        

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Oddly, mine has nothing stamped in the model number or serial number boxes...

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Post# 332507 , Reply# 12   8/25/2015 at 14:59 (3,163 days old) by daddyoh ()        

Evidently Electro-Hygiene was flying by the seat of their pants in the early years! Thanks for the picture. That really cleared things up lol. I did notice yours seems to be on the bottom of the motor housing. My little wierdo is on the side.

Post# 332516 , Reply# 13   8/25/2015 at 15:36 (3,163 days old) by HisMastersVoice (Ferndale, MI)        

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Yeah it's on the bottom. Mine also has 2 rear wheels for what it's worth. Yours is most likely earlier.

Post# 332869 , Reply# 14   8/31/2015 at 02:24 (3,158 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Interesting!

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James, I have never seen an Electro-Hygiene with the word "Club" on the nameplate, or with a single rear wheel. I doubt if it is a "Frankenvac," as the parts are all genuine Royal/Electro-Hygiene. I do have 2 Royals with a single rear wheel, one is an early straight suction model that also has no model number with the bag outlet on the opposite side, and the other is a late 40's or early 50's model 153.
Brandon, although the data plate on the bottom of yours doesn't show a model or serial number, they should also be stamped on the nameplate on top of the fan housing. I'm sure when you find it yours will most likely be a model 230. It could also be a 94, but from the pics it didn't have the hammered finish that set the 94 apart from the rest. Also the bag on yours is a zipper bag from the mid-60's. Genuine Electro-Hygiene, but not original to that model.
Jeff


Post# 334515 , Reply# 15   9/23/2015 at 17:33 (3,134 days old) by daddyoh ()        
To polish or not to polish...........

So I am going to be posting this unusual vacuum for auction on e-bay soon. Should I sell it with the patina or polish it up real pretty?
Thanks in advance!
James


Post# 334519 , Reply# 16   9/23/2015 at 18:46 (3,134 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        
Polish

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Because everybody loves nice things.


Post# 334589 , Reply# 17   9/25/2015 at 10:38 (3,133 days old) by CoffeeCanMan (Ferndale, MI)        

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Unless a vacuum is super rare, cleaned and polished will always fetch more money. An old dirty vacuum appeals to a much smaller audience than a clean and shiny one.

Post# 334697 , Reply# 18   9/27/2015 at 19:05 (3,130 days old) by daddyoh ()        
Thanks

Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll get some elbow grease out.... ;-)

Post# 349240 , Reply# 19   4/1/2016 at 10:00 (2,944 days old) by daddyoh ()        
For Sale !!!!!!

I finally decided to auction off this nice rare piece. The link is below.
Thanks again everybody for all your help!!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO daddyoh's LINK on eBay


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Post# 349260 , Reply# 20   4/1/2016 at 14:30 (2,943 days old) by kenkart ()        
I might have an answer...

Club aluminum sold stuff like a waffle iron and mixer under their name, I wonder if they sold a vacuum....

Post# 349263 , Reply# 21   4/1/2016 at 14:46 (2,943 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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That's actually a Royal "Purifier". Royal private labeled for direct (door to door) sales companies, like Modern Hygiene and Electro-Hygiene, along with many other brand names on the same cleaner. For sure, that is a Royal "Purifier". We have that exact machine in the Museum under the Royal brand name.

Post# 351168 , Reply# 22   4/28/2016 at 11:18 (2,917 days old) by daddyoh ()        

So I have decided 1) I'm too lazy to polish this piece myself, and 2) I need it out of my office. I have decided on a no reserve auction starting at 24.99 + shipping (pricey because of the dimensions) and hopefully this is a price point that can attract buyers. I have also found an old electrolux canister vacuum I will be auctioning off as well, will have it listed later today. Thanks to all for your help and input. I think this is a cool and unusual piece, though I may have gotten an inflated idea of what it was worth. I do not collect vacuums, so I will sell this piece, and if this auction fails I will promptly start it again at a lower price.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO daddyoh's LINK on eBay


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Post# 351180 , Reply# 23   4/28/2016 at 15:25 (2,916 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The handle and nozzle are both removable from the machine, so shipping won't be that bad.


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