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Post# 330520   7/29/2015 at 23:01 (3,187 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        

Hey everyone, I thought I would pass along some info on what I think is the best nozzle for cleaning bare floors. It's the Wessel Werk quick clean nozzle. It actually does not use brushes at all. Instead, it uses 2 rubber squeegees on the bottom, and it gets the suction much closer to the floor than regular floor brushes. It has large wheels and moves across the floor very smoothly. I'm including a link to a site that sells it, but wondering if anyone else has used this tool and if so, did it work well for you. I would suggest anyone that has a lot of bare floors to clean with a canister get this nozzle, I really think it's the best floor nozzle you can get.

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Post# 330523 , Reply# 1   7/29/2015 at 23:18 (3,187 days old) by vacuumfreak95 (Aransas Pass, Tx)        
Riccar/Simplicity.

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Has THE best floor nozzle I've ever used! My whole house has dark color hardwood floor and my Riccar Moonlight canister with this nozzle is th best thing EVER! The micro fiber dust pad underneath makes all the difference in the world!

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Post# 330678 , Reply# 2   8/1/2015 at 04:36 (3,185 days old) by appliance_att (London, England)        
Looks like a good idea

I had a Miele Revolution 700 as my daily driver for 10 years and the one thing that really disappointed was the fancy parquet brush - most of the fluff and dust seemed to stick to the bristles rather than getting sucked up. I now have a Miele S8000 series with the normal carpet/hard floor tool and that's a bit better, but not much; I'm still forever having to vacuum the floor brush with the end of the hose.

Way back in the mid-90s, an old boyfriend of mine has a Bosch cylinder cleaner with a floorhead with rubber strips rather than any brushes, which seemed to work quite well on carpets and hard floors. Don't know the model, but it was full-size, a fetching burgundy colour with an amber-coloured LCD display.


Post# 330680 , Reply# 3   8/1/2015 at 06:07 (3,185 days old) by kenkart ()        
COMPACT!

They have short bristles that lets the air get right down to the floor.

Post# 330683 , Reply# 4   8/1/2015 at 07:09 (3,185 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Well....

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When i think of all the bare floor nozzles i've used i can really narrow it down to these.

Lindhaus wheeled floor tool. while it looks a little bulky this tool glides very well over surfaces, it's edge pick up is great, and it utilizes both a brush strip and a squeegee to me it really seems to do a good job.

I'm actually unsure of the brand on this other one i've got two variations of it though one with a castle cut brush, which came with a royal airopro 1000, and the other with a higher center opening. It's narrower than most tools at about 10" but it's shorter width also seems to give it better pick up as the airflow is more concentrated.


Post# 330688 , Reply# 5   8/1/2015 at 07:35 (3,185 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Sean I agree with you on the simplicity/ riccar nozzle. It is the best one I've ever tried. Even the build quality is superb. The shark hard floor genie does a wonderful job too, although it does feel kind a cheap.

Post# 330690 , Reply# 6   8/1/2015 at 08:02 (3,185 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
wessel werk nozzle

I've actually never had to clean off the nozzle I mentioned in the first post of this thread. I think that was kind of the idea, to make a floor nozzle that would not clog or have to be cleaned off. The only other floor nozzle that comes close to this one is the one that came with my sebo airbelt d1, it's a bit heavier but really glides across the floor and cleans well. I've used the wessel werk nozzle to clean my girl friend's floors which have cat hair on them since she has a pet cat, and the nozzle did not have any hair stuck to it at all. Considering how well this nozzle works, I wonder why floor nozzles with brushes are used so much? Do they offer any advantage, or do most people just not know there is an alternative?

Post# 330693 , Reply# 7   8/1/2015 at 09:14 (3,184 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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I just use my Electrolux floor tool, flipped so the bristle side is down. That way, it sort of sweeps as it sucks. For quick jobs, I use my Hoover Quik Broom Supreme, again with the bristles extended. It doesn't work quite as well and I have to periodically clear it with my finger, but it serves its purpose of convenience.

Post# 330696 , Reply# 8   8/1/2015 at 10:30 (3,184 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Aerus/Electrolux
Compact/TriStar


Post# 330784 , Reply# 9   8/2/2015 at 10:53 (3,183 days old) by Eluxfan71 (Switzerland )        
Philips twistoclean

I use for my wood floors the Philips twist o clean. It cleans perfectly the floors and the very fine dust is sweep away with the microfibre pads. At the same time the floor is lightly polished as the pads are rotating when pushing the brush.

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Post# 330786 , Reply# 10   8/2/2015 at 11:41 (3,183 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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Aerus/Electrolux Horsehair Floor Brush or an equal to that would be the Rainbow Horsehair Floor Brush. They both have the castle cut and pull dirt in from all sides. The next best in my opinion would be the ones that are cut shorter in the front to allow debris to be sucked in. With the Aerux/Lux, they will work with the metal wands for eureka and they will also fit on the Kirby G Series extension tubes.


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Post# 336823 , Reply# 11   11/3/2015 at 12:54 (3,090 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)        

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I had a crappy floor brush and wanted a better one. I was looking into this thread to get an idea on what floor tool I should get. When I went to the Chapman boutique, I saw two nozzles similar to the one you, N0oxy, was talking about (which is the model RD 285). I considered buying one of them and when I went to the cash register, one of the employees told me that I should get a nozzle with bristles for the bare floors. So I just decided to buy one of the floor brushes with bristles.

I don't know if it's the best kind of floor brush but I do like it and it sure is much better than the other floor brush I got with my canister. I chose a kind with a large opening on the front since I don't trust the models with castle-cut styled brush strips. Now what if there were a floor brush similar to the SBB 300-3 model from Miele but with the large front opening instead of the castle-cut brush strips? I would have liked to get one such brush. Would any of you like to get one too?


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Post# 336825 , Reply# 12   11/3/2015 at 14:30 (3,090 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
floor nozzles

I have tried nozzles with bristles and I don't like them for a couple of reasons. For one thing, hair tends to cling to the brush and you have to clean that off. Second, a nozzle like the rd285 gets the air flow much closer to the floor than a nozzle with bristles does. Neither one is right or wrong, it's just personal preference, but I find the nozzle with no bristles is much easier to work with. I do have several floor nozzles with bristles but couldn't tell you the last time I used them. The first time I tried the RD285 I was sold on it.

Post# 336943 , Reply# 13   11/5/2015 at 06:33 (3,089 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)        

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Then Should I have trusted the shopowner who recommended me to get one of the nozzles with bristles?

Post# 336966 , Reply# 14   11/5/2015 at 16:32 (3,088 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The problem with the RD285 is that there are no bristles to speak of. Hoover offered me one when the hard floor tool on my Hoover bagged stick vac was so awful and I declined the offer. I went with the secondary option of having their Parquet Caresse floor tool which is just a conventional hard floor brush with horsehair bristles.

The other problem is that the RD285 has only been on the market for the last couple of months, if barely that. I note that Hoover Europe products elsewhere sells the floor nozzle but may well be added to the tools that were such a disaster in the UK.

I would go with old faithful though I may add that I am probably wrong for suggesing it - however - you'll hardly go wrong with a bristle added floor brush. Yes you'll have to clean off the bristles but I just wouldn't have bare plastic pushing against a floor without at least some bristle agitation to protect the floor as the floor head goes over it.

Apart from which, bristles add air flow to go through the bristles - the Wessel Werk has a thin dust channel on the underside but a relatively flat edge. I can only assume that it will clamp down on a hard floor and not offer as much gliding despite having wheels fitted to it.


Post# 337028 , Reply# 15   11/6/2015 at 23:18 (3,087 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
rd285

Actually, that nozzle has been out for at least a year or more, I got mine last year at this time. And, even with a central vacuum with very powerful suction, it glides accross the floor smooth as butter, no problem at all. It would be interesting to take some dirt and compare that nozzle with a nozzle with brushes.

Post# 337091 , Reply# 16   11/8/2015 at 12:10 (3,085 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well you must have got a prototype, N0oxy because Wessel Werk only officially released the product in March 2015!

In any regard this floor head might just be suitable - I've only noticed that it has angled velour strips on the underside where its function has obviously replaced bristles. Time will however tell whether it is worth this IF the Velour stays there and doesn't need replacing.

(PS photo taken from Wessel Werk website showing off another floor tool)




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Post# 337105 , Reply# 17   11/8/2015 at 17:16 (3,085 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The other reason to why I suggested a conventional hard floor tool with bristles is simply because they're so practical. I have used mine for cleaning cobwebs off walls. They make great tools for cleaning flat surfaces above the floor line too, provided of course that the surface is vast and flat. Even on glass - provided again that the wheels are removable. Most Wessel Werk floor heads have removable wheels.

Post# 337176 , Reply# 18   11/9/2015 at 21:41 (3,084 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Personally, I think any bare floor nozzle that combines a disposable or washable electrostatic pad with a front edge suction channel is the most efficient way to vacuum bare floors while wiping them clean of fine dust. Right now, it seems only Shark, Tacony, and Filter Queen offer such bare floor nozzles. Dyson, Dirt Devil and Swiffer also sell stick-vacs dedicated to bare floor cleaning which also offer a washable or disposable wiper pad in combination with one or two suction channels. I think the Bissell Symphony does this as well.

The configuration is excellent in removing both regular litter and fine electrostatic dust.


Post# 337183 , Reply# 19   11/9/2015 at 22:38 (3,084 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
release date for rd285

That's interesting. I wonder if the design was changed this year. I got mine last year around this time, and a friend of mine got one in December. Interestingly, that particular nozzle is hard to find, I've only seen one site carry it. It definitely is easier to maintain, since there is no bristles that dirt and hair will cling to. I have several floor nozzles with bristles, but have never found that they clean any better.

Post# 339501 , Reply# 20   12/17/2015 at 13:33 (3,046 days old) by sanitaire (anchorage, alaska)        

I have a hard floor tool that has dust mop like materiel on it. works great for getting into corners and dusting walls,floors,blinds...wish it was wider... I would take it too work for the hard floors...

Post# 339639 , Reply# 21   12/19/2015 at 23:08 (3,044 days old) by Vacdepot ()        

The RD285 has been in the market for years, perhaps more than 10. I believe the 2015 press release was for a version Wessel offered in Europe which had an imitation carbon fiber sticker on the front - looks very cool but it is the same nozzle.

EurekaPrince mentions a vacuum nozzle with removable cleaning pad and suction channel in front: Wessel-Werk also did this many years ago (#DS308 "Swiffer Ready" floor nozzle) - I think it was one of the first, certainly one of the universal fitting first versions of this tool. Unfortunately it may have been ahead of it's time because it did not sell to well and was discontinued.


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Post# 355523 , Reply# 22   7/6/2016 at 18:09 (2,844 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)        

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Hey, I'm thinking of a kind of floor brush that has the following features:

-It has a swivel neck like the one modeled D 330 from Wessel Werk;
-It has an LED headlight (which could be battery operated if it's used with a non-electric hose);
-There is a rubber strip around the floor tool to minimize damage to furnitures if the brush bumps into them;
-The rim with bristles can be attached to the nozzle and detached from it, so that if the bristles are missing or damaged, the vacuum owner could just buy a new rim with bristles instead of having to replace the whole nozzle. This rim would be available with different kinds of bristles to satisfy the tastes and needs of different users. The row of bristles would have a wide opening on one side like the one on the floorhead I bought, except that the rim could be attached either way to the nozzle with the opening in the front or the back. Do you prefer making pushing or pulling strokes when you use the floorhead? This brush could be configured either way to satisfy anyone's preference.

Would this floor brush be the best kind on the market?


Post# 355973 , Reply# 23   7/13/2016 at 02:02 (2,838 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        

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In my honest opinion the best nozzle are Compact Tristar And Electrolux short bristle soft and sort enough to get he air at the floor whit out the nozzle being glued to the floor surface i love both m y C9 compact and AP 200 for this reason .

Post# 356037 , Reply# 24   7/13/2016 at 23:33 (2,837 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Dunno if it's the best, but the one I use most

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is the Dyson Articulating Hard Floor Tool. It whips around like a Swiffer (it can get anywhere!), and has large gaps in the brushes, so it rarely "snowplows." I have an adapter for it, and regularly use it with my Henry, and other vacuums. The only downside to it is the narrow suction path at the joints, which could clog easily if you were trying to vacuum up a bunch of leaves, or other large debris.

The Sebo Parquet brush, with the front brush strip removed (so it can gobble up large dirt with ease) was also a joy to use.

Miele, Riccar, Sebo, and even some generic tool sets offer great options.

A good hard floor nozzle is so much better than a broom and dustpan.






Post# 356038 , Reply# 25   7/13/2016 at 23:56 (2,837 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Looks pretty good. I like Miele's twister Parquet floor tool - but I find I have to use a higher suction power level to get the best pick up.






Post# 356058 , Reply# 26   7/14/2016 at 17:42 (2,836 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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SEBO's newer one might be a match, too. Looks like it has been released in the U.S



Post# 356099 , Reply# 27   7/15/2016 at 11:44 (2,835 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
miele twister and sidewinder

I think the Miele twister is similar to the Wessel Werk turn and clean, might even be the same nozzle. It provides much more flexibility with getting in to corners. Another nice tool is the sidewinder. You connect it to a straight wand, but you then hold the hose in a more standing up position, this tool does not have the angle that most other tools have, so it's similar to using a mop. I have actually found a few disadvantages to the brushless RD285, though I still think it's a great nozzle. It's very low to the ground so it tends to push around some dirt rather than remove it. Also, you can't move sideways like you can with a tool with a brush. With the brush tools, you can move back and forth but also side to side at the same time which speeds things up a bit.

Post# 356127 , Reply# 28   7/16/2016 at 03:24 (2,835 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I have white color Wessel Floor tools like the Sebo one shown.Use them with whatever vac wand I can put that tool on-BEST hard floor tool out there!!!!The dealer here sells them by the boxfull-mostly to central vac users.

Post# 356331 , Reply# 29   7/20/2016 at 08:45 (2,831 days old) by william (Philadelphia)        
I like n0oxy's suggestion best

I read each post and to me n0oxys idea seems the best to me. I am going to look into it. I exclusively use Royal so hoping the 285 works with Royal.
Bill



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