Thread Number: 29616
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Your Thoughts On Turbopowers! |
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Post# 330285 , Reply# 2   7/27/2015 at 17:24 (3,187 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)   |   | |
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"Suck them off hard." Pissing my self laughing XD. |
Post# 330286 , Reply# 3   7/27/2015 at 17:25 (3,187 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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LOL |
Post# 330306 , Reply# 4   7/27/2015 at 19:09 (3,187 days old) by themostELITE (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 330338 , Reply# 6   7/28/2015 at 07:59 (3,186 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 330342 , Reply# 7   7/28/2015 at 09:19 (3,186 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Whats the suction like on them? Is is better than a DC04 or as good as a DC07? |
Post# 330344 , Reply# 8   7/28/2015 at 09:29 (3,186 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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As far as the TP1 goes, the hard box models are fine, but the Junior was always my favourite. Less weight in the handle meant they were less prone to trunnion wear and leaning. And ironically, despite being the BOL option, the cloth bag offered at least some attempt at additional filtration that the hard box models didn't.
Not a big fan of the Total System models. Adding onboard tools to a cleaner that was never originally designed to have them always seemed like such an afterthought to me. Didn't like the way the hose carrier overhung the side of the machine, the small, oddly shaped hose connection that tended to clog, or the combined height adjuster/suction diverter. The Turbomaster did onboard tools far better in almost every way, IMHO. Speaking of which, I do feel Hoover discontinued the wrong cleaner when the TM was axed. The only reason it was too expensive to produce was because Hoover overloaded it with features, and already had redundancy in their lineup. If they wanted to cut production costs, they could have dropped the TP1 instead, and rejigged the TM lineup to exclude certain features on lower priced models (i.e. headlight/carpet height display, brush roll shutoff, air freshener), none of which were essential. The TM was designed with both separate and onboard tools in mind, so could easily have offered something to suit everyone had Hoover got the price/feature mix on each model right, without any need to offer an entirely different range of cleaners alongside as they did with the TP1. I did like the TP2/1000/3 series cleaners, as overdue as they were, and they were very popular right up to the end. Perhaps a tad on the heavy side for some, but certainly sturdy for the most part. They didn't appear particularly dated against what the likes of Electrolux were offering at the time, and still had plenty of life left in them yet, so I was disappointed to see them go. The Purepower offered the user nothing the TP2/1000/3 didn't already, it was just quicker, easier and cheaper to build, with fewer parts, hence why it took over. |
Post# 330354 , Reply# 10   7/28/2015 at 13:52 (3,186 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, the Purepower uprights also brought HEPA filters which even the TP3 never got the chance to have fitted.
Personally having owned the Hoover Turbopower in various variations PLUS the TP2 models, I can't say they're the same as the Dyson DC01. The DC01 was just very different to what had gone on before all because of its "icon" design style and fangled suction principle - even if it had a similarly copied central hinge pivot that Panasonic uprights have enjoyed for years, as well as Electrolux and Hoover, too. Comparing a manual height adjusting vacuum to one that has an auto floating head is always difficult but to compare a bagged vacuum with a bagless one is even harder. When I think back to it, the DC01 was a bit simpler to use - no adjustment needed for hard floors even if at times it meant a heavier weight to push but a lighter gliding factor almost guaranteed on carpets the lower the owner stoops! But when it comes to pick up, I think I'd settle for the TP2 & TP3 series. They have far more power and also due to typical Hoover manufacture at the time, a lot more noise to contend with versus the slightly quieter Dyson motor used in the DC01. But then I didn't like the fact that it was impossible to get the DC01 to clean under low furniture unlike my old TP2s. |
Post# 330360 , Reply# 11   7/28/2015 at 15:42 (3,186 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I love them , I have a few older ones in need of some restoration before they go on display.
They cleaned very well, My mom had the turbo master. Very little on the market at that time came close to its carpet cleaning ability. That said Their build quality was horrific. I spent my time as a young boy haning out at the local vacuum shop and got to see many getting new back casings. Later on I replaced many myself. The handles were also prown to breaking and the bottom cord winder. I often chuckle when I hear the misinformed complaining about how poor the build quality of Hoovers are now that they are made in China, those peope obviously never owned a turbo power. They rattled and vibrated from day one. Motors got very noisy over time but this was cured by new bearings and a new fan. I love the sound of the motor , something that is missing from today's high powered vacuums. That low wattage hum of a dirty air motor |
Post# 330363 , Reply# 12   7/28/2015 at 17:16 (3,186 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)   |   | |
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"I love the sound of the motor , something that is missing from today's high powered vacuums. That low wattage hum of a dirty air motor" Thought that was just me! I love listening to them all :P |
Post# 330364 , Reply# 13   7/28/2015 at 17:25 (3,186 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)   |   | |
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This is what I was talking about. Although ours were more red. I'm starting to fancy an Elite now! Thank you to the owner of this picture.
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Post# 330398 , Reply# 15   7/29/2015 at 04:42 (3,185 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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One other reason to why softbags were deemed old fashioned was the fact that Hoover didn't exactly stock the original spare parts for years when the zips sometimes broke. Many Juniors and Seniors had to make do with whatever soft bag replacement was available at the time rather than the original design.
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Post# 330421 , Reply# 16   7/29/2015 at 11:44 (3,185 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 330422 , Reply# 17   7/29/2015 at 11:47 (3,185 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Thanks :) I'll stick to the DC04 then |
Post# 330446 , Reply# 19   7/29/2015 at 14:19 (3,185 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 330458 , Reply# 20   7/29/2015 at 15:33 (3,185 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)   |   | |
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No problem. |
Post# 330539 , Reply# 21   7/30/2015 at 09:25 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330543 , Reply# 22   7/30/2015 at 09:40 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Anyway, Turbopowers.
Whilst I've always felt that the Turbopowers were excellent carpet cleaners (and even more so with the Turbomaster), compared with what Hoover made previously and with what was on the market at the time, it wasn't half over priced and very flimsy. Pretty much everyone was offering something more sturdy at the time. You'll hear many models being refered to as "glass" models because the plastics were so britle, they were forever splitting, cracking and shattering. Most notoriously, the TOL 2nd generation U2336. I always found that the Softbag TP's cleaned better, due to the outer cloth bag giving a larger surface area for the exhaust air, so it kept the airflow more constant in comparison with the hardbag models. Everyone seemed to be copying eachother in the 1980's - the Turbopower was essentially a rip off of the Moulinex Major and the Goblin Commander was a rip off of the Turbopower (although less so, since it was designed by the same person). It's amusing looking at the catalogues and brochures of the time, watching them all try to out-do eachother. However, despite being flimsy and overpriced, they sold and sold and sold and sold in their millions. The rarer models tend to be between 88 and 91 when Hoover sales were in decline, but after the Free Flights fiasco, they were common as muck. People were buying the cheapest Turbopower's that they could just to get a free flight ticket, so they were absolutely everywhere once again. I was never a fan of the Turbopower 2, 3 and 1000's. I loathe the autosense feature with a passion and the cleaners were very top heavy to use. Even though they were far sturdier than the TP1, they seemed to have more issues with narrow hoses and air channels blocking and the bag doors splitting. They didn't groom as well either - the activator was much better when attached to the slower 400w motors of the TP1. It span too fast to actually groom on the TP2/3/1000 and instead just skimmed over the carpet fibres. |
Post# 330544 , Reply# 23   7/30/2015 at 09:53 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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That's because it WAS an afterthought :P.
The "total system" only came about as a solution after Electrolux and Panasonic had huge succcess with their on-board tool models. Hoover were, once again, 2 steps behind the competition and the Turbomaster Total System launched in 1989 (I imagine) didn't quite sell in the numbers that Hoover were expecting.
Despite being awkward, added weight and not that nice in appearance, the first total system's - the U2798 and U2602 - were VERY popular models. |
Post# 330550 , Reply# 25   7/30/2015 at 11:25 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Fast forward to 1983 when the TP came out, knowing what I know now, I would much rather have had a Moulinex Major, Hitachi CV50, Lux 550 or even a Junior or Powerplus. They were all much better built.
The Turbopower is another example of how an eye catching ad campaign can really determine the success of a product |
Post# 330559 , Reply# 26   7/30/2015 at 12:59 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330560 , Reply# 27   7/30/2015 at 13:03 (3,184 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330563 , Reply# 28   7/30/2015 at 13:39 (3,184 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)   |   | |
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Thanks for the videos. It's nice to watch them again when I've not seen them for ages. |
Post# 330582 , Reply# 29   7/30/2015 at 17:10 (3,184 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 330669 , Reply# 30   7/31/2015 at 22:24 (3,183 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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My faveourite Turbopower 1 style was the Total System versions, they just look so cool with the hose draped over the side and the tools made the machine look more stylish and complete if you ask me. I disagree that they looked like an after thought, they did a good job at making them look like they were supposed to be there.
I love the Turbopower 2's even though the performance on them is very average compared to Turbopower 1 I find them more pleasant to listen too, nicer to use and better built.
I prefer the Turbolite and any of the other American Elites over the Turbopower 1's. The performance of an Elite is almost identical to a Turbopower 1 but since the Elites are more sturdy, stylish, (in my opinion) easier to use, service and are much taller I kind of like them better.
To be honest I have no idea why there is yet ANOTHER thread reviewing these same issues about cleaners that have not been on sale for over 12 years. This post was last edited 07/31/2015 at 22:45 |
Post# 330720 , Reply# 33   8/1/2015 at 15:36 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330721 , Reply# 34   8/1/2015 at 15:57 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Yes Emma, you are, I was just saying I have seen it all before and all the drama it causes over peoples opinions. I am having one of those weeks, very low moral at work, at the moment and very stressful. Then I have to come home and trip over a load of old vacuums, makes me feel like trashing them all and washing my hands with collecting. |
Post# 330738 , Reply# 35   8/1/2015 at 19:13 (3,182 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330747 , Reply# 36   8/1/2015 at 20:08 (3,182 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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"Vintagerepairer, urgh, just...urgh." Dare I even ask for a translation? |
Post# 330749 , Reply# 37   8/1/2015 at 20:16 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330750 , Reply# 38   8/1/2015 at 20:24 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330752 , Reply# 39   8/1/2015 at 20:36 (3,182 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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As in "sigh, no comment" Quite right to. I do agree with you on that one. Not commenting is often the best way to let others get on with their own business. |
Post# 330754 , Reply# 40   8/1/2015 at 20:59 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330757 , Reply# 41   8/1/2015 at 21:36 (3,182 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330758 , Reply# 42   8/1/2015 at 21:37 (3,182 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330768 , Reply# 44   8/2/2015 at 05:44 (3,181 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330769 , Reply# 45   8/2/2015 at 05:49 (3,181 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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"So, Turbopowers....? " Amen to that. |
Post# 330771 , Reply# 46   8/2/2015 at 06:14 (3,181 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330772 , Reply# 47   8/2/2015 at 06:21 (3,181 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330776 , Reply# 49   8/2/2015 at 07:50 (3,181 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 330788 , Reply# 50   8/2/2015 at 11:44 (3,181 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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