Thread Number: 29511
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Let's Turn Two Husqvarna Viking 507 Uprights into One Working Machine! |
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Post# 329339   7/15/2015 at 15:36 (3,206 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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I've been patiently waiting to acquire a second Viking 507 for a long time. I purchased one on ebay a while ago, and it ran smoothly for about 5 minutes, then completely locked up. I was so disappointed! I tried to salvage it, and attempted to rebuild the motor. No luck. So I was left with a lot of nice parts but an unusable vacuum, which went into storage.
Yesterday I acquired a second 507 upright, and eagerly went to work. Expect a full teardown and explanation of this unique vacuum soon! Electrolux threw together a really modern upright in a small and lightweight package. Very different early effort for a clean-air upright, but it's aged well and is still very pleasant to use. With proper marketing and exposure, I think these could have been tremendously popular in the US, but these are two of the only Viking vacs I've ever seen in person.
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Post# 329356 , Reply# 1   7/15/2015 at 18:57 (3,206 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Post# 329358 , Reply# 3   7/15/2015 at 19:14 (3,206 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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And here is a TV advert for the 502 CLICK HERE TO GO TO Vintagerepairer's LINK |
Post# 329372 , Reply# 4   7/15/2015 at 22:19 (3,206 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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I was going to link to that excellent commercial. I love marketing that can show the merits of product, in a short amount of time without gimmicks. Thanks for the information on these machines! Truly an enigma here.
The cleaner is finished, and looks wonderful. Runs flawlessly, and cleans much better than expected (there's a HUGE motor under the hood, and a gentle but generous brushroll). I'll post a gallery tomorrow. You're right, these machines are a breeze to work on. I went in blind, and had no trouble at all tearing both of them down to the motors. Collector2 - Thanks for the pic! Your machine looks very nice, and that bright yellow is one of my favorite colors. Sadly, I have not been able to find a set of attachments yet. I like the way the hose plugs into the bottom of the machine, and the tools themselves (Electrolux!) look excellent. I plan to keep my eyes peeled! When the motor locked up on the first Viking I purchased, I threw everything I could at it to save it, knowing that parts for these things are extremely uncommon in the US. This post was last edited 07/16/2015 at 02:15 |
Post# 329396 , Reply# 6   7/16/2015 at 10:10 (3,205 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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Rugsucker - I think a collector friend *may* have owned a Viking 507, but it may have been an imported Electrolux. Too long ago to remember. I didn't know that these were ever sold in the states, and it's a shame they didn't get to catch on here.
If the attachments are still available, I'd absolutely be interested. Also if you have any genuine bags, I'd be interested in those as well. I have a set of bags for mine, but they're generic, and single-layer. Pre-filter (thank God there's 2!), already had a fine coating of dust on it during my test. |
Post# 329404 , Reply# 7   7/16/2015 at 12:01 (3,205 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 329422 , Reply# 8   7/16/2015 at 15:46 (3,205 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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The cleaner smelled like it sat in a damp basement for 15 years, but the motor sounded great. I took the machine apart, and washed a handful of easily removable parts. I removed the motor, and disinfected the base, motor cover, and bag chamber.
As far as cleaning the machine, I keep it very simple. I very gently used denatured alcohol to remove scuffs (gotta be careful because it can strip the finish if overused). I disinfected the bag compartment and base with Lysol spray (I was a little apprehensive to use it due to the age of the machine, but it was fine). I used 3-in-1 oil for the wheel axles (no squeaks!), and bearing grease for the ball bearings inside the brushroll. The brushroll ends of both vacuums had no hair in the ends, just fine dust (a good design!) I then used just one coat of Mothers Aluminum Polish to buff the plastic up to a long-lasting shine. The sticker on the hood was peeling in one corner, so I re-glued that down to the base. The picture of the two shows the small differences between the two machines. Note the different placement of the warning sticker, and different color hose ends in the base. |
Post# 329424 , Reply# 9   7/16/2015 at 15:52 (3,205 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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No more musty smell, and it shined up very nicely. Cleans great (the straight agitator brushes beat the carpet nicely), sounds great, and I'm very happy with how it looks.
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Post# 329440 , Reply# 10   7/16/2015 at 18:38 (3,205 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Post# 329442 , Reply# 11   7/16/2015 at 21:11 (3,205 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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It's very quiet, and on the recommended speed for rugs, the gentle cleaning action reminds me of a classic Hoover Convertible.
As far as build concerns, I could see these being prone to clogs, as the dirt path is quite narrow by American standards. Those tools look nice! I like the maroon/orange/gray color scheme. I love that Riccar has brought back Lux's excellent combo tools. Much better than the combination tools on most modern vacs! I can see where Lux USA got their inspiration for their machine from these models, but their first attempt at a clean air upright was an absolute beast in comparison! |
Post# 329461 , Reply# 13   7/17/2015 at 03:51 (3,205 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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He certainly is!
I love the 500 series and Twin Turbo's that superceded them, hence my username. Ok, so they didn't clean a carpet quite as well as a Hoover and they didn't have the suction power of the cylinders of the time, but Lux found the perfect middle ground between performance and convenience. They did a very good job on both carpet and above floor cleaning. As Benny mentioned earlier, these were absolutely everywhere at one time. They ran in this design from 1971 to 1985 when they were replaced by the more modern looking (although still the same cleaner under the hood) Twin Turbo. The original series went 500 (1971), 502 (1975), 502S* (1978), 504* (1978), 506 (1981), 550 and 560 (1983). *The 502S and 504 were launched at the same time as budget and top of the line models. The 504 was superceded by the 506 in 1981 whilst the 502S continued as the budget model. In 1983, both the 502S and 506 were replaced by the 550 and 560, which were the last of the original design. The very last variation on this was the z1070 Turbo2. Originally, this style was discontinued in 1990 as it was replaced by the newly designed Glider range, but they continued to sell back stock in such huge numbers that Electrolux brought it back as a very budget machine, so the line up went Turbo2, Glider, Contour (BOL - TOL). Funnily enough, despite being a budget model and retailing for around £70, the z1070 was actually a much better cleaner than both the Glider (£90) and Contour (£120) which were above it in the range. The z1070 was also a Which? best buy. The z1070 Turbo2 continued as Lux's budget upright until 1995 when it finally started to disappear from the shelves. Even after it started to whittle down in stock, it could still be picked up if one looked until as late as 1996 when it was finally ditched completely. By then, the Lux had 2 new TOL machines available - the Widetrack and the Powersystem - so the Glider became the budget model, Contour became the midrange and the Widetrack & Powersystem models became TOL. |
Post# 329506 , Reply# 16   7/17/2015 at 15:58 (3,204 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 329512 , Reply# 18   7/17/2015 at 16:43 (3,204 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Also the 504 was launched in the later part of 1974 / early 1975, not 1978. |
Post# 329520 , Reply# 19   7/17/2015 at 18:35 (3,204 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Post# 329543 , Reply# 21   7/18/2015 at 05:05 (3,204 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Post# 329546 , Reply# 22   7/18/2015 at 07:03 (3,204 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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I just love the 500-series, they truly were ahead of their time when first released (much like the Dial-A-Matic/Convertible) and for UK homes they were the perfect size.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the size was a deliberate effort to steal customers away from Hoover's Junior models, by offering something that was just as maneuverable and effective but with clean air technology and a hose with enough suction to make a secondary cylinder vacuum redundant in day-to-day cleaning. |
Post# 329547 , Reply# 23   7/18/2015 at 08:09 (3,204 days old) by Eluxfan71 (Switzerland )   |   | |
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Interesting to see this modell under other brands. Here it was sold under the brand Volta. The Volta U505 was sold here around 1979.
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Post# 329548 , Reply# 24   7/18/2015 at 08:24 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329549 , Reply# 25   7/18/2015 at 08:25 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329550 , Reply# 26   7/18/2015 at 08:25 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329551 , Reply# 27   7/18/2015 at 08:26 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329552 , Reply# 28   7/18/2015 at 08:27 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329553 , Reply# 29   7/18/2015 at 08:28 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329554 , Reply# 30   7/18/2015 at 08:31 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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551 - the first of the newer style Twin Turbo cleaners. Pretty much the same machine, just in new colour schemes, a bit more of a modern design and a far chunkier and more solid handle. The 551 was the base model Twin Turbo, with the 561 in dark blue being the TOL, then the 610 and 612 being the overall TOL cleaners with on-board tools. |
Post# 329556 , Reply# 31   7/18/2015 at 08:33 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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The second main-run style Twin Turbo's in a much more sleek looking design and colour scheme, launched in 88. There were older style models still sold at this time as exclusives, but there's so many of these in various forms it would be difficult to list them all. Currys, Comet, Co-Op and the Electricity Board showrooms all had an exclusive. |
Post# 329557 , Reply# 32   7/18/2015 at 08:34 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 329558 , Reply# 33   7/18/2015 at 08:39 (3,204 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 329560 , Reply# 34   7/18/2015 at 09:00 (3,204 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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I always wondered why members across the pond find a headlight so essential. Who vacuums in the dark? It's a pointless feature and a way for manufacturers to slap a higher price tag on the cleaner.
Incidentally, whilst headlights may not be a thing of the past on most European machines, Hoover, Panasonic & Goblin all offered uprights with headlights right up until the late 90's. |
Post# 329562 , Reply# 35   7/18/2015 at 09:12 (3,203 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I find them really helpful in illuminating any areas in shadows or even near the edges of beds and chesterfields where a sock or plastic bag might jam up the revolving brush. It also saves you from constantly running to turn lamps on and off in bedrooms and living rooms. Also, it's a great help for seniors who have poor eyesight which might prevent them from seeing bits of dirt and dust on the carpet.
I would never buy an upright without one. And it really is not very expensive to add the wiring for a tiny lightbulb and plastic lens. |
Post# 329563 , Reply# 36   7/18/2015 at 09:24 (3,203 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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true, but it traditionally it was a feature that one would pay more for. Just because it doesn't cost a lot to make, doesn't mean that the manufacturer won't charge more for it just because it has a headlight and doesn't actually have any impact on performance.
As for running around and turning lamps on, vacuuming at night isn't something I normally do. |
Post# 329566 , Reply# 37   7/18/2015 at 10:27 (3,203 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 329701 , Reply# 39   7/20/2015 at 12:41 (3,201 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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In my experience, its a typical American thing to have a light on an upright vacuum cleaner. Another helpful feature when one can't be bothered to turn on a light. Given that we had the Holy Loch Naval U.S base in Scotland where I reside, I saw a lot of American homes with a lot of American appliances and plenty of Hoover uprights with dirt searcher style lights. Their homes weren't dark; there was little difference to the American homes that the Navy base built aside from voltage and electricity power plants nearby the homes to cope with the change of voltage and appliances that the families brought over.
And yet, for the most part whenever my late parents' Hoover Ranger light stopped working, they seldom replaced the bulb - reason being the vacuum failed to go under low furniture any way when the light "showed up dirt" and the non-functioning light didn't impede the robust performance that the Ranger provided. Miele also fitted LEDs as standard as part of the S7 uprights, but only reserved the function on the top two of higher priced versions versus the basic ones that do without. A lot of Hoover/TTI branded uprights available in the U.S and the U.K have cosmetic differences AS WELL as a blanking plate over the area where a light can be found on the U.S versions. Only a few models have the light retained. Bissell in the UK are an example of this - some of their bagless uprights have LED lights retained. Another American "trait" I noticed when growing up are uprights with cord rewinds. Sadly Europe and UK don't feature many uprights that have auto cord rewinds built in. |
Post# 329758 , Reply# 40   7/21/2015 at 00:46 (3,201 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 329768 , Reply# 42   7/21/2015 at 06:18 (3,201 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 370952 , Reply# 43   4/18/2017 at 16:15 (2,563 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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The 500 series is what gave Electrolux their name in Sa. While we got all the early ones from the 500 502 504 it was the 506 and almost identicle 560 that sold the most. The 506 had no competition from the then market leader Hoover who was still selling good but vastly outdated Hoover seniors and concept ones. They took the market from Hoover with powerful lightweight vacuums with the best hose suction of any upright on our market at the time.
The 560 was almost the same colour with slight changes to the trim. The motor was a better design that was not sealed but able to be worked on. On the competition front the 560 competed witb the origional turbo power but again although the turbo power had the better brush roll its build quality was terrible and the Electrolix triumphed again. It seems that everyone who has walked into my shop since i had the display up has said Oh wow my mom had one or We had one.
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