Thread Number: 29237  /  Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Eureka Dial-A-Nap vs. ESP vs. Rugulator vs. The Boss 1934 vs. Retro Vac vs. Sanitaire SC888
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Post# 326568   6/7/2015 at 22:01 (3,238 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Which one is the better vacuum for vacing deep down dirt?

Which has more airflow/suction?

I prefer to use disposable paper bag system & Vibra Groomer I or II roller on whichever machine I might buy


Post# 326589 , Reply# 1   6/8/2015 at 09:03 (3,238 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I would buy either a Kirby G series or a metal Royal. Either of these will out clean the Eureka or the Sanitaire.


Post# 326596 , Reply# 2   6/8/2015 at 11:02 (3,237 days old) by kirbykid63 (Wilmington Delaware)        
They are all great machines

All the vacuums mentioned are all excellent deep cleaners,it all comes down to price and availability. I enjoy using my hoover guardsman and sanitaire 886 with added kirby fill tube and paper bag set up,if you find a good condition eureka f&g boss or 5 amp sanitaire pick it up. I have also found those to be very good deep cleaners and easy to service.

Richard
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Post# 326621 , Reply# 3   6/8/2015 at 19:55 (3,237 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hi Erik,

You are kind of mixing apples and oranges here.

Firstly, "Dial-a-Nap" and "Rugulator" are terms that just describe Eureka's 2 classic devices to raise or lower the front of the vacuum head. Neither one is better or worse when it comes to cleaning effectiveness. One uses a dial and the other uses a "slider" to adjust the height of the working end of the cleaner. Set either too low or too high and the vac won't clean well.

Your other descriptions are just marketing names and really don't mean anything when comparing Eurekas. There are Bosses that clean better than ESP's and vice versa.

Also, I really don't think that there is much of a difference in cleaning effectiveness between the three versions of Eureka Vibra-Groomer brushrolls: One, Two or Three clean equally well.

The only thing that will differentiate the cleaning power of a group of classic "fan-first" Eureka uprights using F&G "bags in the back" is motor amperage. A 7amp motor will have more power than a 3amp motor. You can choose any of the various Eureka fan-first uprights, but I guarantee you the better cleaner will have the more powerful motor.


Post# 326651 , Reply# 4   6/9/2015 at 15:31 (3,236 days old) by kenkart ()        
All the power in the world

Wont clean if it is not effectively applied to the rug, Example, A 260 Eureka from the 60s and a Hoover 63 from the 50s will outclean 90 percent of whats on the market today, good airflow and an effective brushroll will make all the difference, a metal base older machine is always,s better...why, put a new Sanitaire beside a 260, yes the Sanitaire has more power, but when you pull it back the back wheels lift off the rug causing the brushroll to nosedive, thus stall and cause the belt to wear, the 260 will stay perfectly flat, and the Disturbulator brush has NEVER..IMHO..been equaled yet.....Try this if you don't believe it!

Post# 326662 , Reply# 5   6/9/2015 at 18:00 (3,236 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hey Hans....good to know that a 260 with Disturbulator will outclean a Sanitaire with a stronger fan! :-)

Just curious: what if you raised the Sanitaire's Dialanap high enough so it does not nosedive and forces the carpet nap to rise up to the brush? Would that not help?


Post# 326677 , Reply# 6   6/10/2015 at 05:35 (3,236 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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I have a Eureka model 260 and had a Sanitaire Blue Line with the 7 amp motor. I agree with Hans. The Eureka 260 is by far the best. I even had a two speed 7 amp motor, considered a step down motor, from a new sc889, put in my 260. I also put the ST bag adapter fill tube on it as well. It has great filtration and is one of my best deep cleaner uprights I have. The brush roll never stalls, I did put a nos square end Vibra Groomer II in it as well, along with a new 30ft cord.



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Post# 326678 , Reply# 7   6/10/2015 at 06:03 (3,236 days old) by kenkart ()        
Re balance issues with a Sanitaire

The Sanitaire would be perfect if it just had a metal base, I haven't found adjusting it helped, maybe Im the only one who notices the "Nosediving", but I have never liked them for that reason,

Post# 326685 , Reply# 8   6/10/2015 at 11:05 (3,235 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Aha. I see.

Indeed, the weight of the motor head does help keep all 4 upright wheels on the ground, and allows the cleaner to maintain the desired height level at which you set the Dial-A-Nap or the Rugulator.

Our Vanguard Rugulator 2083 had a full metal base and metal hood and was an excellent cleaner with only a 3.5amp motor and VG One Brushroll. But it was heavy to lug down the stairs to the basement and back.

At our vacation home, we had a cheaper Eureka 1976 Dial-A-Nap upright with a lightweight orange Lexan base and metal hood that was much lighter, but never made a nose-dive because the motor was only 3.5 amps.

So, if you are going to go with a high-powered (7amps) fan-first, F&G bag Eureka or Sanitaire upright, you will be better off with one that has a solid metal base or at least a metal hood. The weight will work better with the stronger motor.


Post# 326694 , Reply# 9   6/10/2015 at 15:25 (3,235 days old) by Scooby214 (Oklahoma City, OK)        
No nosedive with my S675

My blue line S675, with its plastic base and metal hood, does not nosedive. It seems to have a good weight balance. I can imagine it would nosedive if it was any lighter, so I'm sure the metal hood helps.

I do find that I like having the height set just a little high, so the carpet is pulled up slightly. It really is an effective deep cleaner.

I'd love to get my hands on a 260 like the one shown above!


Post# 326773 , Reply# 10   6/12/2015 at 17:06 (3,233 days old) by kenkart ()        
So would I

In had a 250,255, and 260 at ne time....I sure wish I had kept them.


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