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Which Dyson to buy? DC07, DC14, DC27 or DC33
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Post# 323932   5/2/2015 at 18:21 (3,274 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Hey everyone,

I got rid of my DC07 last year as I had acquired 2 sebos from work that were working fine. The sebo bs36 is rubbish, dust bag is 1/4 full and suction is crap it struggles to remove pet hair so I now wish I had never sold my DC07 origin. Put a new bag in and it's fine again until it starts to fill up, probably because the dirt fills the bag from the top and air enters the motor from the bottom of the bag and the bag is so tightly packed inside the compartment thar air struggles to flow easily around the outside of the bag. Any way my sebo is being sold tmrw to someone who wants to use in an office which will be fine for office use.

My home is a mixture of wooden floors, small amount of carpet on the landing and stairs and rugs in every room. I also have to vacuum my sofa daily due to my cat that seems to constantly shed hair. My DC07 Was clutchless and it used to be frustrating that it flicked cat litter about in the kitchen because of the brush roll but I have tried to avoid clutched versions due to the stories I have heard about reliability.

I am now looking at getting another Dyson as the DC07 was a good vac but I hated the way you used the hose. If there were some bits of cat litter when I cleaned the kitchen and just wanted to get the wand out to pick those stray bits up I hated having to undo the wand then flip it right round and extend the wand from inside the hose before I could use it. At least on the sebo you had the quick draw wand which made picking up loose bits very easy and then you popped it back into the main body and off you went again.

So I have several options and there's a couple of good guys who sell all of the above models refurbed and with a 6 month warrant for between £60-£100 depending on the model. Do I get another DC07 which we know is prob the most powerful one they ever made or do I go for its younger brother the DC14 which uses the same motor? How does the wand and hose assembly differ between the two models? For example when I vacuum my sofa I like to disconnect the hose part without the wand and just connect the upholstery tool onto the end of this so I would like the process to disconnect the hose from the telescopic piece to be easy as I like to get up close and personal to the sofa not be cleaning it from the middle of the room.

Or do I go for something completely different such as the DC27 or DC33? Are the motor wattages lower than the DC07/14 and would this then affect performance. The way the wand works are they the same as the DC14 with the DC07 being the only one that works differently.

Going to look at them in the shop tomorrow so I can see how easy they are myself but at the moment I'm stressing. I probably need a clutched version but not sure which one to go for. Want the performance of the DC07 but the simplicity of using the tools and wand.

Look forward to reading your comments.

Regards
Richard.


Post# 323952 , Reply# 1   5/3/2015 at 06:11 (3,273 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
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If you decide on a DC33 I have a refurbed/stripped down one for sale with clean filters/tools etc for sale if you want it. Its a decent vacuum with good suck, and not too noisy. It has both the combi tool and the stair tool, and I think I might have the manual somewhere. Good condition, only a couple of small scuffs on the side and the bin isn't too cloudy, as well as having a stripped and washed cyclone.


Post# 323953 , Reply# 2   5/3/2015 at 06:30 (3,273 days old) by paulinroyton (Royton, Lancashire)        
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Hi Richard.

I have a dyson dc40 and it's a great vac. However I find using the hose wand a pain in the back side. It's not flexible enough and find it very difficult to use on the stairs.

Has anyone else found the hose wand difficult to use on a dyson. I end up using my Hoover celebrity for the stairs.

Paul


Post# 323954 , Reply# 3   5/3/2015 at 06:39 (3,273 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Why are you stressing?

I dont know why you just dont get a henry and have done with the whole hard floor issue like it has been suggested before.

Pet hairs on furniture are easily dealt with a hand vac like the AEG motorised brush roll one. Both are easy to store and both work really well.

Simple really.


Post# 323956 , Reply# 4   5/3/2015 at 07:03 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        
Suctionselector

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I'm interested actually in the dc33 - can you drop me any pics over on what'sapp if I send you my number?

I'm not stressing and I already have a Henry but I keep it in the shed the unravelled hose and attachments storage or lack of does my head in! I only have a small cupboard to keep stuff in and the Henry did my head in. I keep it for dirty jobs & cleaning the car.



Post# 323958 , Reply# 5   5/3/2015 at 07:30 (3,273 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
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I don't have whatsapp but I do have a picture I took a while ago, I used it on Thursday I think and it pulled up a great deal of muck from the carpet and the suction from the hose is brilliant. I cleaned the filters a couple of weeks ago and has only been used once since. I can't find the stair tool right now but I have an idea where it is.

 

Hope it helps.


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Post# 323959 , Reply# 6   5/3/2015 at 07:31 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Been to see the vacs at one place I mentioned and being the perfectionist that I am and having restored vacs myself I was dissapointed. Some had many scratches all over, dirty bins, hoses that had been replaced and wouldn't retract etc.

Post# 323961 , Reply# 7   5/3/2015 at 09:26 (3,273 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I would suggest a shark rocket for £100 as they are pretty good for the price and now the uk ones have new updates now they're brilliant for hard floors and carpet.I loved my one very easy to to use if you don't mind watching the filter every 2 weeks or 3 weeks then it will be perfect for you it comes with a turbo attachment and a extendable crevice tool and dusting brush.

 

 




 




 




 






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Post# 323963 , Reply# 8   5/3/2015 at 09:59 (3,273 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Hi
The DC07 is a good machine with 290 AW of suction. I'm not gonna talk about the DC07 cos I'm sure you know what its like :)

DC14 is basically a DC07 but with a better design. The wand has a telescopic metal pole which can be pulled out like a telescope and its much faster than the DC07 cos there's no need to "reverse" the wand like with the DC07. The filter in the cyclone has a larger surface area so it's better for allergies though it might not make much of a difference really. Also the plastic is stronger on the DC14 and it's lighter than the DC07, but not much lighter so much so that it's about unnoticeable. DC14 uses the same motor as the DC07 and this produces 290 AW just like the DC07. They both have the same suction. I have the Animal version with a clutch and the origin version without a clutch. They both work well without problems IMHO. Origin is harder to push cos the suction is sealed into the floor like your DC07, but the clutched DC14's and the DC33's have a large debris channel but still have good performance especially if you have wooden floors. The soleplate has rollers on them aswell whereas the origin one doesn't

The DC27 is an alright machine but I wouldn't go for it unless you have the 5 year guarantee. It's not common, parts are not really available as much as the DC07 and DC14. They have a design flaw where the changeover valve sticks because of the powerful suction. It does have a "pull out" wand though like the DC25 which is very quick. It has 255 AW of suction.

The DC33, my neighbour has one from new. They have had it for almost two years and use it A LOT. It's like a DC14 but you need to wash the post motor filter aswell now. The wand is plastic instead of metal but it makes it lighter to use and this machine has 255 AW of suction so slightly less than the DC07/14 models. The tangle free turbine tool will fit and so will the normal one. You can use these on older Dysons if you buy their universal adaptor sold for like £2.50 from Dyson.

All these Dyson's use the same motor, the DC27 has a slightly different motor though. The DC07 and DC14 have 32mm tools that can fit but the DC33 and DC27 have "click fit" tools so you can only use Dyson tools on them (newer ones) but Manchestervacs ell a clever adaptor which they made to use old 32mm tools on the new Dysons! genius!


Post# 323965 , Reply# 9   5/3/2015 at 10:02 (3,273 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

BTW the DC25 is a pretty good machine. Has a motorised brushbar with stiffer bristles than the DC07 does and it's good for hard floors, fab on carpets. Aluminium wand with click fit tools and it works pretty good, actually!
Quick release wand
Small bin capacity tho, but the features are fab
The hose wn't reach to the top of 13 stairs, but in my house it reaches up to 11 or 12 stairs. the DC14 reaches 13 stairs, DC33 reaches like 12 or 13 and the DC07 reaches 13 stairs.

DC41 is also a pretty good machine, an improved DC25 basically but I don't like the plastic wand


Post# 323966 , Reply# 10   5/3/2015 at 10:32 (3,273 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Have you tried replacing the filters and brushstrips on the Sebo before you spend more money on a new machine? Worth a shot and if it doesn't work, you'll double your money anyway if you stick both machines on eBay - Sebo's always sell.

 

I agree with Rob, you're never gonna find an upright that will clean large particles off a hard floor as well as a cylinder.

I recently switched from an upright to a Miele Cat & Dog cylinder, so I have both a straight suction floortool for hard floors and the turbobrush for carpets. Best of both worlds really and both floorheads store on the machine.

 

Henry Xtra would be a good choice too.


Post# 323968 , Reply# 11   5/3/2015 at 10:59 (3,273 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Richard has a Henry which he finds impractical due to what it is (a cylinder).
As for hard floors, I have no problem using the Dyson DC14 on hard floors. It has a large debris channel which works really well and can even pick up even rice off a hard floor without snowplowing. I think the only difference between using this and a cylinder on hard floors is that if there are like REALLY big particles like cereal for example as a whole flake then yes a cylinder would be very good, but then again you do have the quick release wand. I like using Henry's on hard floors, they feel satisfying for some reason and even on rubber backed rugs xD


Post# 323970 , Reply# 12   5/3/2015 at 11:07 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Thanks for the informative posts. I think I am going to go with a DC14 and have another one to look at on Tuesday before making my decision. I'm put off that the dc33 has a plastic wand.

With regards to the Shark above I really don't like it. I think if anything I am also looking at the vax air reach u90-u91? Has anyone any experience of these, the tools look a nightmare to assemble & for the price I might as well just get the Dyson lol.


Post# 323971 , Reply# 13   5/3/2015 at 11:09 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        
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Yes washed them both in the washer, brush strips were perfect. As said when a new bag is put on its back to 100% but the design of how the bag fills and expands leaves it pulling air through the 1/4 of compacted dust and dirt. Office dirt may be ok but household pet hair and cat litter soon clogs that bag.

Post# 323972 , Reply# 14   5/3/2015 at 11:11 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Forgot to say I've sold the two sebos - bs36&46 for £65 each to a guy who was setting up a cleaning business. He had used sebo before and wanted sebo again.

Also sold my kirby dustette for £10 too so nice £140 today :)


Post# 323973 , Reply# 15   5/3/2015 at 11:23 (3,273 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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The top fill bag system is really no different to using an old Lux 500 and those things went on until the bag was chocked full.

 

I suppose the advantage of the X Series is that the suction comes through the side, not from underneath the bag.


Post# 323978 , Reply# 16   5/3/2015 at 11:36 (3,273 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

This is how powerful my DC14 origin is. PS it's quieter now because one of the bearings in the brush were dodgy

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Post# 323990 , Reply# 17   5/3/2015 at 13:34 (3,273 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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dc7 all the way

Post# 324004 , Reply# 18   5/3/2015 at 18:36 (3,273 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Parwaz

I don't want mine lifting the floor like that I wouldn't be able to clean the floor properly or even push it! Is that cos it's the carpet version only so a different sole plate?


Post# 324035 , Reply# 19   5/4/2015 at 01:36 (3,272 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

My DC14 origin lifts the floors like this because I put seals in the soleplate. They normally don't have it. BTW The newer soleplates are specially designed to be easy to push and still do a good job. My DC14 is an older version from around 2005 I think.

If your DC07 Origin was easy to push then the DC14 should be the same. The clutched version has the large debris channel and edge cleaning in addition so it's much easier to push and you still have good performance (not as powerful as the origin tho)


Post# 324062 , Reply# 20   5/4/2015 at 13:18 (3,272 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ive had no problems with my old Sebo 360 and it uses same bag and configuration. Infact mine seems to pick up more with synthetic dust bag fitted.

Post# 324080 , Reply# 21   5/4/2015 at 14:52 (3,272 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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I was using paper bags so possibly so but it just wasn't very good at getting pet hair up the auction was not that strong when that bag starts filling.

Post# 324173 , Reply# 22   5/5/2015 at 15:59 (3,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        
My new fully refurbed DC14

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Just got my new Dc14 - wow it looks like brand new, the difference about these guys from all the other back street garage places charging the same prices for a refurb if not more is these guys take such pride in their work. The dirt bin has been polished and buffed to remove all the fogging up of the plastic so the bin is crystal clear and looks like a new bin has been fitted. They clean the cyclones out properly using a proper machine rather than just cleaning with water. Brand new motor, filters & brushroll fitted as standard. I am very impressed and happy with the vacuum. For £70 with all that done there is never going to be a need to buy a brand new Dyson. Just remember to wash your filters monthly. See the attached pics of mine and all the dirt I cleaned up when I got home after not being able to vacuum for 3 days. I travelled all the way from Leeds to collect and it was well worth it.

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Post# 324174 , Reply# 23   5/5/2015 at 16:11 (3,271 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Nice! Glad you like it :) I also have the exact same DC14 with that beautifully smart looking colour scheme! I love it. I assume you like it better than the DC07 then :) So do you prefer the clutched or non clutched version?


Post# 324180 , Reply# 24   5/5/2015 at 16:21 (3,271 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Little more fiddly to get the hose out as in more steps to do it but I prefer clutched

Post# 324183 , Reply# 25   5/5/2015 at 16:38 (3,271 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Cool, I prefer the DC14 wand IMHO


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