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Post# 320732   4/7/2015 at 13:34 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Looking at this video it looks like Dyson Cinetic doesn't work very well.

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Post# 320733 , Reply# 1   4/7/2015 at 13:41 (3,277 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I won't be getting a cinetic until the second or third generation after seeing Kode's videos. That is of course, Dyson continue to develop the filterless vacuum.

Post# 320735 , Reply# 2   4/7/2015 at 13:53 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Me neither. Surely they would have tested it thoroughly before releasing it! They were supposed to have taken the cyclones to the absolute maximum!

If that amount of dust is escaping the cyclones the motor is going to burn out prematurely.

I think they will have to go back to a pre filter.

Disappointing


Post# 320736 , Reply# 3   4/7/2015 at 13:56 (3,277 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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"Surely they would have tested it thoroughly before releasing it!"

 

Not the first time a company has churned something out that doesn't work, look at Hoover, with the disastrous Turbopower and Turbomaster Freedoms


Post# 320737 , Reply# 4   4/7/2015 at 13:57 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I was gonna get a Cinetic big bal, looks like it's time to get a blue DC41 now :D

Post# 320738 , Reply# 5   4/7/2015 at 13:59 (3,277 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 320740 , Reply# 6   4/7/2015 at 14:11 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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in some of these videos look like he has been over filling it a little bit too much

Post# 320741 , Reply# 7   4/7/2015 at 14:15 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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and also cnet tested it to see if actually worked.

 





Post# 320743 , Reply# 8   4/7/2015 at 14:18 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

It doesn't look good Josh. I would go back to a pre filter if i were Dyson.

Post# 320744 , Reply# 9   4/7/2015 at 14:20 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

DC41 is one of the best Dysons, Not too concerned about the big bakll really cos of the 5 year guarantee. If it were to break I would complain a lot really

Not had to use my DC25 guarantee but to send a post filter out and a new cleaner head


Post# 320745 , Reply# 10   4/7/2015 at 14:22 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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there's no need for that kind of language.

Post# 320746 , Reply# 11   4/7/2015 at 14:22 (3,277 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Finger wipe very revealing, just what I was hoping he would do.

Post# 320747 , Reply# 12   4/7/2015 at 14:25 (3,277 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I could of said a lot worse, Josh, BELIEVE me.


Post# 320748 , Reply# 13   4/7/2015 at 14:25 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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this does look like a problem,maybe a faulty batch of something but if other people start to report this i definitely won't get a another one. still like the look of it though.but i am disappointed.




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Post# 320751 , Reply# 14   4/7/2015 at 14:28 (3,277 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
"I definitely want another"

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Post# 320752 , Reply# 15   4/7/2015 at 14:29 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'm sticking with my DC41MK2 i've had no problems whatsoever. There is no dust on the motor intake after 6 months of use.

Wash the pre motor filter every few months. Takes a couple of minutes it's not a problem. But relying solely on cyclones...... I'm not convinced now!


Post# 320753 , Reply# 16   4/7/2015 at 14:29 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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there is a chance dyson have recall the england models noticed everywhere has been out of stock for a very long time.

Post# 320754 , Reply# 17   4/7/2015 at 14:30 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'd take them out of stock permanently!

Post# 320755 , Reply# 18   4/7/2015 at 14:31 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

It would have been sensible for Dyson to put even a cheapo sponge in the motor inlet suction tube like what they did with Bissell Powerforce machines, or we can shove something like a sock up the inlet tube

Post# 320756 , Reply# 19   4/7/2015 at 14:34 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes that would be a good idea. But it looks like more than just dust blowing back when emptying the bin this time Tayyab. It looks like dust escaping the cyclones.

Post# 320757 , Reply# 20   4/7/2015 at 14:34 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Still, might get either this or the DC41 cos this one is 1300w and ill soon be rare when these get discontinued by 2017 when vacuums must be less than 900W

Post# 320758 , Reply# 21   4/7/2015 at 14:34 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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i wish they would design the bin like the cylinder kinetic

Post# 320759 , Reply# 22   4/7/2015 at 14:35 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

How can grit get past that mesh screen? It's quite large though isn't it

Post# 320760 , Reply# 23   4/7/2015 at 14:37 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Large particles won't shouldn't pass through the shrowd that is true.

Post# 320761 , Reply# 24   4/7/2015 at 14:38 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

They really should change the following;
The motor suction must enter from the top of the cyclone like on the DC01 to DC33
Lift the filter up and make the cyclone tops lower so that the outside of the filter captures dirt, not the inside hence its easier to wash
This means that for grit to enter the motor, it must get past the sealed filter, which is virtually impossible. How hard is that?
It will also mean the tool storage will be higher aswell, unlike bending over for people with bad backs, bring back DC33/ DC27/ DC25 tool storage for this one, even the tool caddy cant even hold the stair tool properly, with the DC25 it clicks into place


Post# 320762 , Reply# 25   4/7/2015 at 14:40 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Uno what Im still considering ths, it's 1300w and if it blows up Im getting Dyson to repair it for free!!! XD

Post# 320763 , Reply# 26   4/7/2015 at 14:41 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Yh once again its to do with the emptying thing, my DC24 filter has loads of ssand and grit around the seal of the filter, and the grit is always at the bottom of the bin, right where the seal is, then it gets sucked into the motor. When I get mine I will wipe the seal and shove the uptake pipe when emptying it :)

Post# 320764 , Reply# 27   4/7/2015 at 14:42 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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i'm not that concerned about it as didn't experience it with mine.

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Post# 320766 , Reply# 28   4/7/2015 at 14:46 (3,277 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I know there's a lot of Kirby haters on here so I won't say "Time to get a Kirby".

 

But I will say this instead: "Time to get a Riccar Radiance Tandem Air"


Post# 320768 , Reply# 29   4/7/2015 at 14:47 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

The only way to be completely sure would be to fill the bin to Max line shove a sock up the inner tube so no dust can blow back and repeat this several times and then check to see if any dust is escaping the cyclones.

Post# 320769 , Reply# 30   4/7/2015 at 14:49 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Good idea :D

Post# 320770 , Reply# 31   4/7/2015 at 14:49 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I also picked up plaster dust of mine and it didn't have any problems at all.

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Post# 320771 , Reply# 32   4/7/2015 at 14:50 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I like the Riccar Brilliance very much! But we are talking about the Dyson cinetic here Stan i've not had any issues with the Dyson DC41 MK2

Post# 320772 , Reply# 33   4/7/2015 at 14:58 (3,277 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Don't get bent out of shape Mark, I just threw that in as a joke, just to be funny. I know Riccar is not being sold in the UK yet.


Post# 320773 , Reply# 34   4/7/2015 at 14:59 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Get out of shape? I'm in very good shape thank you Stan :)

Post# 320774 , Reply# 35   4/7/2015 at 15:00 (3,277 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Come on I like dyson as much as Mark or Pawrz whatever your username is (sorry :p ) but I have been sceptical about cinetic. The technology just is not there yet for filterless vacuum cleaners. Yes, Rainbows don't use any pre motor filters (at least I don't think) but you have to put water in them an I would have a hard time thinking that is safe, not only because electrics and water but bacteria growth.

That fine dust is going to get to the motor, coating the bearings which will eventually blow the motor. Nah, stick with the already goo dyson cyclone technology rather that a filterless design. Dyson may regret this.

Still, at the moment, I do prefer my bags lol. Used my Numatic George the other day to do the top fo our ceiling vans. I forgot at just how much pulling power those numatics have !


Post# 320775 , Reply# 36   4/7/2015 at 15:04 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I think you might be correct Oliver. Only water filtration will work without a pre motor filter.

But even the Rainbow will get dirt passing into the motor. I've seen a video of the Rainbow being stripped down and the motor was caked in dirt!


Post# 320776 , Reply# 37   4/7/2015 at 15:10 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Rainbow is far from perfect as this video will show.

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Post# 320777 , Reply# 38   4/7/2015 at 15:17 (3,277 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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:O At this rate we will just revert to banging the dirt out of our carpets. Nothing seems to work :'(

Lol jokes. Synthetic bags thank you very much, although I think more could be done to help aid airflow as the bag fills.


Post# 320780 , Reply# 39   4/7/2015 at 15:26 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Haha. The perfect vac hasn't been made yet. May never happen. But there are still some very good ones available. And some very bad ones :-)

Post# 320781 , Reply# 40   4/7/2015 at 15:26 (3,277 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
not only because electrics and water but bacteria growth

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You're supposed to empty the tank after each use, so that each use is like using a brand new machine.


Post# 320784 , Reply# 41   4/7/2015 at 15:31 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Unless you use it as an air purifier then bacteria and mold can certainly grow and all that moisture could cause rust to metal parts.

Post# 320799 , Reply# 42   4/7/2015 at 16:25 (3,277 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

Mark, Rainbow advises to not store the unit with the main unit on top of the water pan, that way you do not cause rust or premature damage to the unit, and you are allowing the water pan to completely dry. It is recommended after each use to rinse out the water pan of all dirt and debris. This process can be tiring for those not use to using a Rainbow, but after a few times it takes only seconds to complete this process.

Post# 320806 , Reply# 43   4/7/2015 at 16:33 (3,277 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes Derek but when you use it as an air purifier it's on constantly.

Stan I don't hate the Kirby. It has a lot going for it. Very well built, reliable, performance on carpet is second to none.

I just don't think it works well in smaller homes. Its difficult to manoeuvre around furniture etc. You don't need a 15 inch nozzle in a smaller home. My Dyson or Sebo Felix with a 12 inch nozzle and swivel action is much easier to use.

In a larger home I'm sure a Kirby will be fantastic! :-)


Post# 320808 , Reply# 44   4/7/2015 at 16:37 (3,277 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

True it is on constantly, however with the unit running and the separator churning the water, it will not be as stagnant, it is the stagnant water that harms the Rainbow.

Post# 320812 , Reply# 45   4/7/2015 at 16:45 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Come to think of it, a Kirby and a Dyson upright would be perfect for my local mosque :)

Post# 320819 , Reply# 46   4/7/2015 at 16:57 (3,277 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Well....

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It's dissapointing to see that the cinetic system doesn't work properly. I've sort of been keeping my eye on the big ball and thinking about purchasing one in the future, but seeing this and knowing that it lets dirt flow freely into the motor....that's not gonna happen.

Post# 320821 , Reply# 47   4/7/2015 at 17:14 (3,277 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I felt the same way, there is of course a chance it was the dirt they say not to pick up, or over filled too, but I think I will keep washing my pre filter every 6 months and keeping my motor clean. It's just not that big of a deal to wash up.

Post# 320836 , Reply# 48   4/7/2015 at 19:20 (3,277 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA)        
How disappointing!

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I love the idea of eliminating filters altogether, but that video left me scratching my head. If it took James Dyson 10,000 prototypes to come up with this, then why aren't these "crack" cyclones doing their job?

I hope that Dyson will continue to improve on Cinetic science, as this is ridiculous! I would rather stick with my DC07 Animal if I still had it!


Post# 320838 , Reply# 49   4/7/2015 at 20:00 (3,277 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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this video looks promising,I think in those videos it looks over full, or has been overloaded or i might be wrong,but if anyone else reports this problem I'll definitely be concerned and disappointed

 




 




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Post# 320850 , Reply# 50   4/7/2015 at 21:15 (3,277 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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The fill line is there for a reason, but yes, in all likelihood it is entirely possible that the bin may be overfilled at some point through oversight. These things happen sometimes, and safeguarding against this is something Dyson needs to design into the product.

Post# 320876 , Reply# 51   4/8/2015 at 06:50 (3,277 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        
I bought one

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3 weeks ago off eBay. After seeing this video I decided to tear mine apart. Mine was just as filthy as the one in the video. It does do a great job cleaning carpets, but the filtration is kind of disappointing.

Post# 320927 , Reply# 52   4/8/2015 at 11:53 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I want one for the performance and maybe the big ball (100% straight) and it just has a big booty curve :D It looks so stylish like Uff!!!
I like how it has excellent airflow with the 2 filters


Post# 320928 , Reply# 53   4/8/2015 at 11:55 (3,277 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Who likes my DP? :D BUT DON'T SAY YOU LIKE HER MORE THAN I DO COS ZOELLA IS BAE <3

Post# 320936 , Reply# 54   4/8/2015 at 12:28 (3,276 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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FYI about Rainbow and bacteria. The Rainbow Deodorizer/Air Freshener has alcohol and tri-ethylene glycol as active ingredients. One capful in the water, even when used as an air purifier, kills bacteria on contact.


I have the Big Ball Cinetic upright, and we've been using it for a month now. Check every time for any dust escaping the cyclones, and so far, none has. But my eye is on it constantly - I really want it to work properly.


Post# 320937 , Reply# 55   4/8/2015 at 12:33 (3,276 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Keep us updated Tom. I really want it to work too.

Surely if this was what Dyson experienced after thorough testing they wouldn't have released it to the public?

I'm still not certain if it's dust escaping the cyclones or dust blowing back up the tube when emptying the bin.


Post# 320938 , Reply# 56   4/8/2015 at 12:38 (3,276 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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everytime I emptied my one I put a sock in the hole.and you can see even cnet it tested it.



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Post# 320980 , Reply# 57   4/8/2015 at 15:14 (3,276 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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well said Alex they are rubbish

Post# 320997 , Reply# 58   4/8/2015 at 16:00 (3,276 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Well, they release the DC01, DC02 and DC03, all of which had very poor suction and the performance was overall poor, the money they were asking, they were truly shocking and could of got a much better cleaner for a good £100 cheaper.


Post# 321093 , Reply# 59   4/9/2015 at 11:22 (3,276 days old) by sprockkets (Eau Claire WI)        

Dyson says this will last 10 years without filter maintenance. Well, if you are like me at home, that would be true since I can fill up my Windtunnel air once a month.

At work, though, during winter months, that will mean 12 times a month. Meaning I'll clog up the post filters within 2 years or less (which as you noticed were made extra large for this vacuum to be "lifetime").

Really I can't see this ever being solved. If the cyclones work as they have to, they take air from the sides, then spin around, then the dirt falls in. The air doesn't flow out of the cyclone on the bottom, but gets sucked from the top. I'm sure if I took one apart it might not work like other cyclones but they can't feed air through the bottom of the cyclones since that defeats the filtering.

To expand that new flexible tip at the bottom of the cyclone would require air flowing through it. Where that air goes depends on whether or not it can filter properly. Maybe it feeds it out back to the main chamber. Othewise, Dyson is tied to the same laws of physics as everyone else.


Post# 321112 , Reply# 60   4/9/2015 at 14:09 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Doesn't surprise me at all. Remember Dyson has been claiming that they have no loss of suction and now there is a new story since Cinetic came out.

I would imagine the Cinetic to work well in the average home but it may struggle to filter all the fine dust in exceptionally dusty environments. But then the HEPA filter will capture this. Dyson do put a warning not to vacuum up rubble dust, soot etc. If the HEPA filter is clogged this will not cause a loss of suction as the motor is not ducking through it but blowing out.

I have a DC24 which of course Dyson claimed no loss of suction. It's clogged so badly since I moved to my new place. The filter clogged every week and if I didn't wash it then the rubber filter would lift itself up and put fine dust on the HEPA filter which I trust captured the rest but that has gone through the motor - which I point out on my DC24 has proven to be tough dealing with all the fine dust as it's not the first time I've had issues with the pre motor filter clogging and lifting itself up inside the top of the cyclone. Maybe if it had been constructed of rigid plastic surround then that would not have happened.

Cinetic marketing does not make me want to buy one of those machines. I don't like the designs.

I'm sure Dyson are aware of it's limitations. The average consumer is not going to inspect every component and take their expensive machine apart to see if the HEPA filter has fine dust on it. I certainly don't inspect my Dyson. I just empty it into the bin outside and shut the botto, wipe the bin and place it on the machine. Only when I encounter problems with clogging I take pics and check the dust on the filter to see how fine it is.

Pic below showing you the state of my ore motor filter on my DC24 after just one week and how the filter lifts itself up and let's the fine dust into the motor. This machine has no loss of suction written on it! Lol


Post# 321113 , Reply# 61   4/9/2015 at 14:14 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Agreed Blakaeg
I might just get a DC41 mk2, outstanding performance and durable


Post# 321114 , Reply# 62   4/9/2015 at 14:15 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I suggest you try either the DC41Mk2 or the DC40 2015 model that Roger did a good video of.

The DC24 and 25 were not great but the have improved a lot since then.


Post# 321115 , Reply# 63   4/9/2015 at 14:17 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Fine dust let into the motor I hope this didn't come out into the air.

Post# 321116 , Reply# 64   4/9/2015 at 14:23 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

There was nothing wrong with the DC24 and DC25 machines. I would rather a DC25 over a DC40 or 41 any day but that's my opinion and preference.

My point is not about machines being better over the other. I'm just demonstrating that Dysons clever marketing convinces us of certain things that may not be true. All my Dysons clogged at some point and it seems when dealing with very dusty carpets like mine (apartment was empty for a year so carpet accumulated a lot of dust) the machines can potentially struggle.

Parwaz, I hope u enjoy ur new machine when u get it.


Post# 321117 , Reply# 65   4/9/2015 at 14:25 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Instead of bleating on about old dysons try one of the latest ones they are much improved. The DC40 2015 model is on offer for £199 atm

Post# 321119 , Reply# 66   4/9/2015 at 14:29 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'm sorry but the DC41MK2 is much improved over the DC25.

Post# 321122 , Reply# 67   4/9/2015 at 14:40 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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The DC40/41, are far superior to the DC24/25, dust separation is still not perfect but the 40/41 are far higher performing and nicer to use than the 24/25.


Post# 321123 , Reply# 68   4/9/2015 at 14:42 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Thanks Blakaeg :) BTW Dyson have sadly discontinued the DC25 again

Post# 321124 , Reply# 69   4/9/2015 at 14:43 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

I don't care to be honest lol. It's a vacuum to me. Only saying I prefer a DC25 if I ever bought another Dyson which I don't need to as have a Sebo in addition.

Post# 321125 , Reply# 70   4/9/2015 at 14:45 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

you converted to bags? :D thought u hated them lol

Post# 321126 , Reply# 71   4/9/2015 at 14:46 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Dyson have sadly discontinued the DC25

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It is just too much, Tayyab, get me the tissues, I can't control my tears.


Post# 321127 , Reply# 72   4/9/2015 at 14:46 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Marcusprit may I suggest instead of starting something why don't you ask first. I have infact been using a DC40 machine to clean when I've been doing cleaning jobs in the evening after my main job so I'm talking from my own experience. Yes I have seen that video too. Thank you.

Parwaz, it's a shame DC25 has been discontinued but it was on the market for a very long time due to it's popularity so I'm glad that it sold well.


Post# 321128 , Reply# 73   4/9/2015 at 14:49 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Parwaz,

I never said I hated bagged machines. I do like them due to being easier to remove the dust once full up. I really like SEBO now.


Post# 321129 , Reply# 74   4/9/2015 at 14:56 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I really like SEBO now.

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we must get you to therapy.


Post# 321130 , Reply# 75   4/9/2015 at 14:57 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'm not starting anything. Was it the 2015 model with the Max/min slider?

If you prefer the DC24 that's your preference but most would say the latest models are much improved. :-)


Post# 321132 , Reply# 76   4/9/2015 at 15:05 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Alex you deserve a slap for that one! Naughty boy!

Post# 321133 , Reply# 77   4/9/2015 at 15:06 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

It's the 700 watt version with the slider on the front yes. Used in a bungalow but used the hose/wand cleaning the owners sofa to remove cat hair.


Post# 321134 , Reply# 78   4/9/2015 at 15:08 (3,275 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Alexhoover,

Your opinion is fine with me. Doesn't affect me in any way what so ever.


Post# 321135 , Reply# 79   4/9/2015 at 15:08 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Alex you deserve a slap for that one! Naughty boy!

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Go on then, Mark, spank my bottom! ;)


Post# 321136 , Reply# 80   4/9/2015 at 15:10 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Cool :-)

Post# 321137 , Reply# 81   4/9/2015 at 15:15 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
Right...

Here you go Alex for your depression due to the DC25 being discontinued...

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Post# 321138 , Reply# 82   4/9/2015 at 15:16 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
Mark

This is how Alex feels...

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Post# 321139 , Reply# 83   4/9/2015 at 15:17 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
So you need one of these:

Things specially for Alex

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Post# 321142 , Reply# 84   4/9/2015 at 15:20 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
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I have felt like that a few times ;) ;)....


Post# 321143 , Reply# 85   4/9/2015 at 15:20 (3,275 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Haha :-)

Post# 321144 , Reply# 86   4/9/2015 at 15:21 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

XD
How did it feel Alex? (the spanking from Mark)


Post# 321148 , Reply# 87   4/9/2015 at 15:25 (3,275 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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You better ask Mark, he did all the work! HAHA.


Post# 321157 , Reply# 88   4/9/2015 at 15:43 (3,275 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Well I bet he must be feeling like this:

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Post# 321995 , Reply# 89   4/14/2015 at 17:52 (3,270 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I'd rather see a bagged Dyson instead of the Cynical

Post# 322141 , Reply# 90   4/16/2015 at 02:25 (3,269 days old) by Mike81 ()        

I am very concerned about the very fine dust going to the motor. I can already see there will be in the future numerous burnt motors in the Dyson Cinetics. Just why won't you Dyson put high density pre-motor filter in it??
Those very high efficiency cyclones would anyway keep the filter clean a long time. Most importantly, it would stop motor getting caked with fine dust over time and eventyally burning it up.


Post# 322157 , Reply# 91   4/16/2015 at 11:29 (3,269 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Very disapointed here, I have to wonder if they didn't make it no filter for bragging rights/ non maintence people? Just seems not tested out enough. Too bad.

Post# 322169 , Reply# 92   4/16/2015 at 13:58 (3,268 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Just found out the person of the videos is a Rainbow dealer.

Post# 322178 , Reply# 93   4/16/2015 at 15:57 (3,268 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        
He's a Rainbow Dealer

Who cares if he is. He does some really good videos on his page for all different types and makes of vacuum cleaner.

He demonstrates the pros and cons of various machines. He demonstrated that Cinetic let some fine dust through the cyclones and onto the HEPA filter. I doubt very much that fine dust will damage the motor and it will cope just fine.


Post# 322179 , Reply# 94   4/16/2015 at 16:06 (3,268 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

Even if it does let some dust through the motor most people get a new dyson after about 6-10 years anyways. They always want the newest technology.

Post# 322182 , Reply# 95   4/16/2015 at 16:18 (3,268 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

True Ctvacman,

For Dyson fans yes, but I still use a 2009 DC24 and will continue to use it inbetween my Sebo until the DC24 burns out completely.

Like IPhones, it seems people want the latest Dysons. I prefer to keep things going as long as possible.


Post# 322199 , Reply# 96   4/16/2015 at 17:45 (3,268 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I think this can only happen with very very large amounts of fine powder vacuumed all at once like overloading it I think it can handle fine dust just fine but not in silly amounts all at once. it's like a person you can eat a cheeseburger but when you start shoving it in your mouth you're going to choke like any vacuum cleaner.and you can see in this video he has picked up large amounts of fine dust until it clogg up.

it could happen to any vacuum even a rainbow.

 




 


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Post# 322215 , Reply# 97   4/16/2015 at 20:00 (3,268 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

Well in a rainbow it's not hard to do, any non wettable debris will just bounce right off the water and go through the motor.

Post# 322218 , Reply# 98   4/16/2015 at 20:42 (3,268 days old) by man114 (Buffalo NY)        

The seperator in the Rainbow will still sling some of the non wettable dirt back out, the original design of the machine used no water.

I still stand by my statement that the 11amp Fantom Thunder was the best implementation of Dyson's own technology.


Post# 323118 , Reply# 99   4/24/2015 at 01:46 (3,261 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        




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