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Thread Number: 28658
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Hoover turbo brush making AWFUL noise |
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| Post# 319735 3/30/2015 at 17:25 (3,307 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
So my Hoover Windtunnel 2 Rewind Pet has a really nice "pet" turbo brush. It is unique because instead of bristles, it has rubber blades which sweep up pet hair and carry it into the dirt cup. The great thing about it is that it doesn't tangle up with pet hair.
However lately when I go to use it, within about 10 seconds, it makes a HORRIBLE high-pitched screeching noise. It is so bad that I have to shut off the vacuum every time I hear it. Recently, I tried lubricating the turbine with WD-40 and it seemed to work fine. But after a few uses, it started screeching again. So does anybody know of a way to stop this horrid screeching? This is a GREAT tool for stairs and upholstery. Any solutions would be greatly appreciated! | ||
Post# 319737 , Reply# 1 3/30/2015 at 18:16 (3,307 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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 Check to see if there is any hair build-up in the bearings. That will sometimes fix the issue. If it needs to be lubricated again, it's best not to use WD-40 for bearings. Find a lubricant designed specially for motors. The lubrication you momentarily experienced from the WD-40 will last for a much longer time.
It's also possible there is a chip in the turbine, but I think that seems unlikely in this case. I hope you can fix it; those are really useful. | ||
| Post# 319747 , Reply# 3 3/30/2015 at 19:42 (3,307 days old) by sprockkets (Eau Claire WI) | ||
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As a general rule, WD-40 is a degreaser or a way to loosen stuff up, it isn't a lubricant. | ||
| Post# 319750 , Reply# 4 3/30/2015 at 20:40 (3,307 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
Turbo Tune-Up!
I would start by cleaning out any hair or thread that's built up around the brushroll and turbine, making sure none has gotten into the ends of the brush or where the turbine seats. Also check and make sure none of the plastic is chewed up where the brush or turbine sit, and that all the parts seat between the casing halves properly.
I'm assuming that Hoover tool uses itty-bitty sleeve bearings, and in that case I would use 3-in-1 Motor Oil to prolong bearing life, and keep noise down. Just a drop on the ends of the brushroll that fit into the sleeve bearing does the trick! WD-40 breaks down quickly, and you'll soon be left right where you started, if not worse due to extra unnecessary chemical residue. WD-40 is great for hinges and temporary round-the-house fixes, but it has no real place in moving machinery. I use automobile-grade bearing grease for ball bearings, and just a little 3-in-1 MOTOR Oil for sleeve bearings. Always does the trick! These turbo-tools are generally noisy and cheaply made, but this is what I would do to give one a tune-up! Hope this helps! | ||
| Post# 319763 , Reply# 5 3/31/2015 at 01:17 (3,307 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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This style is the better turbo nozzle Or U can go for a mini electric PN Why did Hoover quit offering this good turbo nozzle? Or do they still make it? I HATE the new style like the 1st pic 
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| Post# 319770 , Reply# 6 3/31/2015 at 06:41 (3,307 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Outside Wessel Werk ones, the better one I like is the Electrolux ZE060. Probably available in the U.S under Eureka. Only thing I dislike is that it is impossible to open up quickly to clean out due to two screws on the back of it.
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| Post# 319800 , Reply# 7 3/31/2015 at 11:27 (3,307 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Thanks!
I'll definitely look into trying that 3-in-1 motor oil for the bearings. Perhaps I'll find some at Lowe's or Home Depot.
I looked inside my turbo brush, and it has some long hair wrapped around the turbine bearing where the belt rides on. I'll have to pull it out with pliers, as that area is too small for my fingers. FantomLightning, I wouldn't really want to buy a new turbo brush, as I'm trying to save money. A new turbo brush costs $17.75 on Hoover's website. It doesn't appear that the individual parts are available separately. hoover.com/products/details/uh708... Sebo_fan, that Electrolux turbo brush is available in the U.S. under the Eureka name. My Eureka AirSpeed Unlimited Rewind (which was given away last summer) had a turbo brush very similar to that Electrolux tool. Its "Riser Visor" makes it VERY easy to clean stair risers without flipping the tool over, which can be awkward. The downside is that it slows down a lot when touched to a surface. Floor-a-matic, I've never used an older pre-TTI Windtunnel upright, but it seems that Hoover has stopped making that red turbo brush in your picture. One upright that has a mini electric power nozzle is the Shark Rotator Powered Lift-Away. It is the first upright I've seen that has a "TruePet Mini Motorized Hand Tool." I have attached a video that explains how to use it. Or I could go for a new Dyson if I could afford it. Dyson makes a "Tangle-free turbine tool" which is the only turbine tool that won't tangle up. Here is a video showing Dyson engineers putting this tool through crazy torture testing. | ||
| Post# 319808 , Reply# 8 3/31/2015 at 12:35 (3,307 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I would go for the dyson tangle free tool with an adaptor | ||
| Post# 319822 , Reply# 9 3/31/2015 at 16:23 (3,306 days old) by sprockkets (Eau Claire WI) | ||
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can someone mention if the dyson tool gets powered from a seperate air path? It doesn't make sense to vacuum dirt over the wheel to mess it up. | ||
| Post# 319856 , Reply# 10 3/31/2015 at 22:15 (3,306 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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The Dyson tool has a "clean-air" turbine setup. When you clean with it, debris does not pass through the turbine itself, so there will be no risk of damage to an essential part. And if you clean something like a real dense fabric, instead of slowing down, this tool will speed up! Dyson has pretty much perfected the turbine tool.
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| Post# 319868 , Reply# 11 3/31/2015 at 23:52 (3,306 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Oil ordered today! | ||
| Post# 320154 , Reply# 12 4/2/2015 at 19:32 (3,304 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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It's here!
My bottle of 3-in-1 motor oil just came in today! Now I can get down to business! Wish me luck!
I have a picture of everything I need.
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| Post# 320208 , Reply# 13 4/3/2015 at 08:00 (3,304 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Interested To see if the oil worked. I am sure it will. | ||
| Post# 320283 , Reply# 14 4/3/2015 at 15:52 (3,303 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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The moment of truth...
So today, I put the turbo brush back together, plugged my vacuum in, took the hose out, put the turbo brush on, powered it on, and...
IT LIVES!!! The turbo brush runs VERY smoothly now! I vacuumed a pet bed for a small test, and I didn't hear ANY screeching! Later on, I'll be vacuuming some couches, pet beds and the stairs to give this tool a workout. A VERY cheap and simple repair for a great little tool! | ||
| Post# 321637 , Reply# 16 4/12/2015 at 15:26 (3,295 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
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Hey Niclonnic!
Glad the 3-in-1 Motor Oil did the trick! It's my go to, and I've gone through several bottles over the years tuning-up vacuums. It's great for any sleeve bearing, and it's what I use for my vintage fans as well.
As turbine tools almost universally use small cheap bearings, don't be surprised if you need to tune-it-up again down the road, depending on use. 3-in-1 Motor Oil is also great for vacuum wheel axles (which seem to squeal way too much on modern vacs), but be sure to clean any excess oil off the wheels themselves, so they don't stain carpeting. I haven't found a long-term solution to stop wheel-squeal on new vacs, but this keeps them quiet for 3-6 months. The effect lasts much longer on vintage vacuums, which usually used better, larger wheels that kept dirt away from the axles longer, and rolled smoother and quieter by design. It's a great product. This post was last edited 04/12/2015 at 15:47 | ||
| Post# 321652 , Reply# 17 4/12/2015 at 16:10 (3,294 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Yeah
The 3-in-1 Motor Oil really is great! I may have to lubricate my turbo brush a few more times over its lifetime. The only downside is that after having used the turbo brush, residue appears within the top cover of the tool. I am attaching a pic. The brown markings are residue.
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| Post# 321656 , Reply# 18 4/12/2015 at 16:15 (3,294 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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But there is one more thing...
The rear wheels of my Hoover are fine, but the front wheels are squeaky! They squeak the most when I pull the vacuum back. I may have to try the 3-in-1 Oil on it sometime.
Below is a pic of the underside. This Hoover has a nice, aggressive brush roll! It sounds angry when I vacuum carpets.
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| Post# 321658 , Reply# 19 4/12/2015 at 16:22 (3,294 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
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It'll work perfectly on those front wheels!
It's a quick fix, too! Put a drop on each side of the wheel on the axle, and roll it a few times to coat the inside of the wheel. Wipe off any extra oil thoroughly with a towel.
Is that residue on the turbo tool from the oil, or just from dirt clouding the clear plastic? All these clear parts in vacs get gross quickly when met with real dirt. However, if that residue is from dirt sticking to excess oil, then too much was applied, and it should be wiped out. | ||
| Post# 321682 , Reply# 21 4/12/2015 at 18:34 (3,294 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Off to work!
I've started work on getting the front wheels lubricated. I took my entire vacuum apart to make things easier. I have a pic of the machine in pieces.
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| Post# 321684 , Reply# 22 4/12/2015 at 19:02 (3,294 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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I applied oil liberally on each side of the wheels and rolled them a few times. I also lubricated the axle itself, as it was squeaky. I will test the Hoover next week and see if the squeaking goes away.
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| Post# 321685 , Reply# 23 4/12/2015 at 19:04 (3,294 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
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Never hurts to clean it out
but usually lubricating the wheels requires no disassembly. I usually just put a drop of oil on each end of the wheel, without taking anything apart. Still it won't hurt to check the belt, filters, and shroud inside the bin while you're at it.
With that brushroll it looks like it would clean very well! | ||
| Post# 321699 , Reply# 24 4/12/2015 at 19:46 (3,294 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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In my case
I disassembled the vacuum to make things easier on me. I didn't want to keep flipping around the heavy machine when it was fully assembled. The belt is in good shape, the filter is a bit dirty and the shroud is fine.
Yes, that brush roll does a GREAT job on carpets! Combined with Windtunnel technology, it pulls out both surface debris and deeply embedded dirt. Oh, and the residue on the turbo brush was dirt stuck to excess oil. I applied a bit too much oil to the bearings. | ||
| Post# 321840 , Reply# 25 4/13/2015 at 17:42 (3,293 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Update
I used my vacuum today, earlier than I promised, and the front wheels don't squeak anymore!
3-in-1 Motor Oil works GREAT for all my vacuum lubricating needs! However, I found this excerpt from my manual: "LUBRICATION: The motor and brushroll are equipped with bearings which contain sufficient lubrication for their lifetime. The addition of lubricant could cause damage. Do not add lubricant to motor or brushroll." So I won't lubricate the motor or brush roll. | ||
| Post# 321859 , Reply# 26 4/13/2015 at 21:35 (3,293 days old) by vacmaster (San Diego) | ||
well
I had the same problem with the same tool. I couldn't stand using it witch was a shame because it is my favorite turbo, i found a drop of soap works wonders on a squeaky turbo. hope i could help!
Justin | ||
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