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Post# 318734   3/19/2015 at 03:55 (3,297 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

That is what I heard a representative from Vax say twice on a QVC demo last night.

I have tweeted Vax to confirm this and asked Dyson on their Facebook page if this is true. I'm fairly sure it is the manufacturers that do the testing and award the ratings based on their findings.

Fortunately I recorded the demo and will be uploading it on my channel next week.


Post# 318735 , Reply# 1   3/19/2015 at 04:15 (3,297 days old) by marcusprit ()        

It's the manufacturer Roger this is why Bosch are taking Dyson to court. I don't know if the court is still going ahead as Dyson reduced their ratings.

Post# 318736 , Reply# 2   3/19/2015 at 04:32 (3,297 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

Yes, I thought it was the manufacturers who supply the ratings. I am just waiting to hear what Vax say on the subject.

Post# 318737 , Reply# 3   3/19/2015 at 04:47 (3,297 days old) by marcusprit ()        

There probably will be independent testing in the future but then the disputes won't be between manufacturers but between the manufacturers and the independent testers. Haha

Post# 318738 , Reply# 4   3/19/2015 at 04:59 (3,297 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

Here's the Twitter reply from Vax:


@ibaisaic @qvcuk Yes, all Eco vacuums have been independently tested and were given a rating on their pick up on carpets and hard floor :)

So it must be true if Vax say so😏


Post# 318740 , Reply# 5   3/19/2015 at 05:15 (3,297 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Really? Maybe they decided to have them tested independently but I don't think the EU make this compulsory.

Just noticed on Vax website they only seem to state the energy rating now.


Post# 318741 , Reply# 6   3/19/2015 at 05:33 (3,297 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

You have to click a link on the product page to show the full energy label.

Post# 318742 , Reply# 7   3/19/2015 at 05:43 (3,297 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Oh ok thank you Roger. :-)

Post# 318743 , Reply# 8   3/19/2015 at 06:14 (3,296 days old) by marcusprit ()        

But I still don't believe Vax clean better than Sebo, Miele and Dyson as their "Independent" tests would suggest.

Post# 318750 , Reply# 9   3/19/2015 at 07:35 (3,296 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

This is the reply from Dyson.

"Hi Roger,

The EU energy label has been designed so manufacturers can self-certify by conducting their own testing. Market Surveillance authorities will then randomly select machines to test them in the market – in the UK, this would be the National Measurement Office. I hope this answers your question.

Best wishes,

Sam"

I think Vax may be telling porkies.


Post# 318752 , Reply# 10   3/19/2015 at 07:48 (3,296 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Well I hope the national measurement office whoever they are randomly select some Vax cleaners for testing :-)

Post# 318778 , Reply# 11   3/19/2015 at 14:06 (3,296 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I still think independant testing by a third party testing company is best. Like in the US we have CRI.


Post# 318852 , Reply# 12   3/20/2015 at 09:47 (3,295 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Here's a conversation I had with Vax Commercial on Twitter. It was in regards to one of their cylinder tubs that they had featured.





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Post# 318854 , Reply# 13   3/20/2015 at 10:13 (3,295 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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After waiting for weeks for a reply, I eventually got a reply in March. Whilst Vax have tried to be clear, they appear to have just taken info from the actual EU law test, NOT their own.

The user manual reflects no information at all on what floor head to use for "eco cleaning," or any other eco nonsense.

IN short, Vax Commercial UK were caught out on Twitter claiming that they had tested their own vacuums but couldn't advise me on the actual process. Even when testing a hard floor for cleaning performance was done using a "crevice" tool as opposed to a proper, larger floor tool, I was still none the wiser as to what Vax have done, never mind who has actually tested the vacuum.

Yet even when using the actual name of "crevice tool" as opposed to the "crevice test," Im still confused!


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Post# 320726 , Reply# 14   4/7/2015 at 13:05 (3,277 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Here's a lovely video of the Vax Energise Pulse upright vacuum. Cant say it looks all that "new" to me, but rather a previous Power/whatever model that has been tarted up with a new colour and added features.

However, get to 0.15 and you'll see the Vax hard floor soleplate adaptor. I'm told Kirby have always had a similar one but also cuts the brush roll off. This one doesn't on the Vax because there's no brush roll on/off function. Cant say im impressed with an all in plastic flush sole plate with a thin opening that is designed to push across a hard floor surface. I'd have thought Vax would have had the sense to add lint pickers or some kind of velour to avoid marking.





From another video (for the "Energise Tempo", the snap on floor head hard cleaning attachment looks like this:


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Post# 320832 , Reply# 15   4/7/2015 at 18:22 (3,277 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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Urgh, I don't like the look of that much. I get that the brush roll can't be turned off, and would scatter dirt on hard floors, but this seems like such a cheesy workaround.

The Kirby hard floor plate does work well, because it has a row of short bristles directly behind the suction slot. With the height adjuster set to the lowest position, the front wheels lift clear of the floor, and the cleaner rides along on the bristle strip instead. Does a fine job of loosening debris without scratching, and also stops the cleaner skidding on smooth surfaces.



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