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Thread Number: 28484
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Hoover PurePower, what happened??? |
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| Post# 318184 , Reply# 1 3/13/2015 at 21:21 (3,324 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Hoover Europe have been on a cost cutting exercise, that's what has happened!
I can't count the amount of handle press release pedals I've gone through with some Purepower and DustMinger uprights. Then there's the lousier, cheaper height adjustment slider knobs that break off early. I stopped buying long term UK model Hoover bagged vacs after Hoover went and faffed up the original Telios cylinder vac. They replaced the ill fated trigger handle with a cheaper feeling Chinese made hose and awful handle, took out the variable suction slider and put fixed suction motors and at the same time also made the Telios even lighter with nasty plastics. The fact that the Chinese hoses kept slipping out made the Sensory models last a few more years. To top it off, they then brought out the Hoover Telios Cyclone which was worse. It failed to pick up after three uses before the filter had to be washed, cleaned and dried. Even after that, the Telios Cyclone was never the same again. I recently bought the Hoover Idol bagged stick vacuum earlier this year. It is a total disaster. Candy of Italy should be ashamed. But they just want to make money, even if buyers have to be put up with shoddy crap. The Hoover company no longer care what they sell in Europe. | ||
| Post# 318185 , Reply# 2 3/13/2015 at 21:23 (3,324 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 318187 , Reply# 3 3/13/2015 at 21:55 (3,324 days old) by Marks_here (_._) | ||
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| Post# 318213 , Reply# 4 3/14/2015 at 06:44 (3,323 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Just curious, are you the person selling the Dyson DC41 on ebay because you preferred bagged vacuums? Your location Stafford, same carpet colour and same green hoover made me think that lol. | ||
| Post# 318214 , Reply# 5 3/14/2015 at 06:45 (3,323 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Here are the pics: | ||
| Post# 318216 , Reply# 6 3/14/2015 at 07:56 (3,323 days old) by Beechs1 (stafford) | ||
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Ha ha, yeah that was me, sold the dyson and the bloody dog attempted to destroy the other one lol | ||
| Post# 318218 , Reply# 7 3/14/2015 at 08:31 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I may just have to go to the UK... | ||
| Post# 318228 , Reply# 9 3/14/2015 at 09:23 (3,323 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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PS just curious, how powerful and how good was the design in your opinion in comparison to the Hoover from 1997? | ||
| Post# 318242 , Reply# 10 3/14/2015 at 10:57 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 318289 , Reply# 12 3/14/2015 at 14:36 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Thanks for the maths lesson Benny :-) | ||
| Post# 318293 , Reply# 14 3/14/2015 at 15:10 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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If they keep producing crap like that they will go out of business :-) | ||
| Post# 318294 , Reply# 15 3/14/2015 at 15:15 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Benny, can you think of a company who are making top quality products and making a loss?
The point is, Hoover vacuums are one of the cheapest to buy and by god the pricing reflects that you certainly don't get what you pay for. An example of pricing versus fair pricing? Any of the TTI Vax products are largely better built than HooverEurope products. | ||
| Post# 318297 , Reply# 18 3/14/2015 at 15:24 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Not quite.
"...People are buying the crap. They like it. Candy have sold top-end Hoover cleaners and have had to come away from that market as there is no longer a place for the Hoover name within it...."
Not quite. Not if Hoover's facebook page has anything to do with it. Very few positive comments, but plenty of complaints! As for "top end," there are plenty of top end Hoover vacuums in Europe. Hoover UK are not chosen to list or carry them. The Athos is proof of that. It may not be as well built as others but Germany and other Germanic led countries in the last two years have all had variants of Athos as well as plenty of Telios cylinder vacs and plenty of other models that the UK never sees. The priority of which speaks volumes; clearly HooverEurope have more of a market with cylinders and stick vacs in Europe compared to the UK alone who still prefer the uprights. HooverCandy have the money but they don't bother, to save costs on that "one" country who love their uprights. And as for you quoting Hoover - yes that was back in the day when there was still money to be had in production. The Air Miles campaign effectively cut all ties from the U.S - we all know that. But the quality back then to the quality NOW is shocking. I know myself having bought the lousy Hoover bagged stick vac - it took TWO attempts from Hoover UK to send out a proper bloody floor tool that doesn't stick to carpet and isn't a chore to push. WITH their experience I assumed they knew what they were doing. Clearly not. | ||
| Post# 318299 , Reply# 19 3/14/2015 at 15:25 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I do run a business Benny. And Nar makes a good point. Vax produce better quality than Hoover/Candy you can pick up a Vax Air for around £100. I tell you if Hoover keep producing junk like this the British public will switch to another brand. | ||
| Post# 318300 , Reply# 20 3/14/2015 at 15:25 (3,323 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Ok I retract all I have said. | ||
| Post# 318301 , Reply# 21 3/14/2015 at 15:28 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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You don't have to retract anything. You are entitled to your opinion and people are free to agree or disagree :-) | ||
| Post# 318302 , Reply# 22 3/14/2015 at 15:34 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The British public have already jumped ship ; everyone is now buying Numatic Henry vacs or Hetty; they're mostly all realising that it is not just schools that they are fit for.
Yet when you look at the actual design and tech, the Numatic Henry isn't technologically bristling - but they are durable, long lasting, fairly easy to run on cheap dust bags and all the while HUGELY economical due to the massive dust bag capacity, long hose and long cord. Albeit the long hose and long cord, when was the last time I could find cheap dust bags for a long lasting durable vacuum cleaner? Oh yeah, the Hoover Junior and Senior. | ||
| Post# 318303 , Reply# 23 3/14/2015 at 15:35 (3,323 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Well it's too late, I already did :-) :-) :-) | ||
| Post# 318305 , Reply# 24 3/14/2015 at 15:37 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Yes Numatic have a simple design that is well built and very reliable and best of all built here in the UK :-) Wish they would introduce a telescopic wand though, I hate friction fit. | ||
| Post# 318306 , Reply# 25 3/14/2015 at 15:38 (3,323 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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And actually there's the irony. Instead of trying to copy every brand, just how difficult would it be for Hoover Europe to re-release the Junior or Senior? Or something similar to that? When you think that in the U.S, bagged uprights still sell (cue Sanitaire), UK consumers could well be honoured with a decent built metal & plastic combo based bagged upright. Even the Turbomaster could be brought back.
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| Post# 318308 , Reply# 26 3/14/2015 at 15:41 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I would love to see direct air machines make a come back. With the greatly improved bags they would work very well. | ||
| Post# 318310 , Reply# 27 3/14/2015 at 15:54 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'd say 90% of the time people disagree with me on here but I don't care cause I know I'm right. Haha :-p | ||
| Post# 318316 , Reply# 28 3/14/2015 at 16:14 (3,323 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 318317 , Reply# 29 3/14/2015 at 16:14 (3,323 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I agree with Marcus all the time! | ||
| Post# 318318 , Reply# 30 3/14/2015 at 16:17 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I think you've been drinking Stan :-))) | ||
| Post# 318323 , Reply# 31 3/14/2015 at 16:28 (3,323 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 318325 , Reply# 32 3/14/2015 at 16:36 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh yes that would be good. I may well get a Sentria shortly. I've been doing some research into high end vacs both cylinder and upright. Rainbow TriStar, Filter Queen, Royal etc and I've come to the conclusion Kirby is the best option. | ||
| Post# 318331 , Reply# 33 3/14/2015 at 16:51 (3,323 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 318332 , Reply# 34 3/14/2015 at 16:57 (3,323 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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There are things I like about Rainbow but I wouldn't buy a new one I don't think they are worth the price. Sadly you rarely see used ones on EBay in Europe. Nice vacs though.:-) | ||
| Post# 318341 , Reply# 35 3/14/2015 at 18:12 (3,323 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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An early bagged purepower is something I've never had, but would like to try. Modern ones though? Yuk! | ||
| Post# 337039 , Reply# 36 11/7/2015 at 08:35 (3,085 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
I have just bought one of the new Purepowers with the 750w motors, infact the same one in the picture at the top of this thread...Yes it is cheap-ish, but it is not terrible for a Chinese made vacuum.
This white and red model PU71 only retails in Argos for £89, the Purepowers originally retailed in Argos for way more than that the base model was £128.50 in 1997 (also pictured at the top of this thread). I have the original top of the line 1997 Autosense Purepower and that was £199.99 in Argos!!
The Original Purepowers, depending on the model, had features like Autosense, variable power, bag check light, permabag and air fresheners...All that has been axed now on the newest models and the only features that remain from the very original series are the self sealing dustbags and HEPA S Class filter.
I do like the older Purepowers, the ones that were made in the UK (97-2003ish) they also had a better brushroll, it was called an activator, similar to what the Turbopower 1s, 2s and 3s had...It was a spiral bristle brushroll with beater pads on it...However, some very early models (including mine) didn't have the Activator brushroll, it was similar but without the beater pads, it also had rotating edge cleaning brushes, where as the activator version didn't, that just had static edge cleaning brushes.
I think the newest Purepowers preform just as well as the old ones but they are just a bit louder and they have that cheap vacuum brushroll noise, you know, the "EEEEEE" where as the old ones from the late 90s didn't.
I think it is very good value for money, the Purepower, I mean for £89 you are getting an upright vacuum with a self sealing dustbag, HEPA S Class filter, full 13 stair stretch hose and 3 separate cleaning tools. The only thing that lets it down is the handle release, which had been a problem for years.
Contrary to popular believe, the Purepowers have not always had a bad handle release, it actually used to be very strong on the 97-2000 models as those ones had a metal string inside the pedal/button...With the spring in there, which formed the tension on the release button, made it very easy to press down and release, however, on later models and indeed the newest models, they just made a spring action out of the moulded plastic pedal and did away with the metal spring, making it very difficult to press down to release and also weakening it, as they changed it to all plastic. It is hard to explain but I hope you understand what I mean.
So, I thought I would show you my top end 1997 Hoover Purepower next to my 2015 Hoover Purepower. 
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| Post# 337040 , Reply# 37 11/7/2015 at 08:59 (3,085 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Furthermore, Alex, as I wrote in the earlier messages, not only did a base-model Purepower retail for £130 in 1997, that equated to £213 in todays money. So to get that same cleaner for £89, one would have to expect a huge drop in something somewhere. | ||
| Post# 337042 , Reply# 38 11/7/2015 at 09:25 (3,085 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Even Down to the motors...see the difference in motor size. The one in the new Purepower power is just a cheap generic vacuum motor where as the motor in my 97 Purepower has an Italian made Ametek motor.
15 motor...
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| Post# 337043 , Reply# 39 11/7/2015 at 09:27 (3,085 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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97 model... | ||
| Post# 337052 , Reply# 40 11/7/2015 at 13:14 (3,085 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 337056 , Reply# 41 11/7/2015 at 13:55 (3,085 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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well they have changed the chassis at the front, so the original bumper wouldn't fit. You now have to unscrew 7 screws underneath the chassis to gain access to the belt, unlike 2 screws like purepowers used to have.
They have also added squeegees onto both front and back of the base plate to assist with hard floor cleaning, the brushroll has been re deigned too.
Here is my unboxing of it anyway...I got it during The Very.co.uk sale.
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| Post# 337097 , Reply# 42 11/8/2015 at 15:08 (3,084 days old) by jake1234 (greasby) | ||
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hoover purepower it is all a cost of making the purepowers. things were better before production moved to china. i have a green purepower from 97 aswell. i found mine in the neighbors skip i refurbished it and it works a lot better than my red and grey one from 2013. | ||
| Post# 337098 , Reply# 43 11/8/2015 at 15:13 (3,084 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Indeed so. They were much better built. And much more expensive. Today you can get two-and-a-half of these cleaners for the 1997 price. | ||
| Post# 337104 , Reply# 44 11/8/2015 at 17:12 (3,084 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 337150 , Reply# 45 11/9/2015 at 17:30 (3,083 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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I think the Purepower is one of the most successful uprights Hoover have produced since the Junior and Turbopower 1. I don't think they will end production any time soon. This post was last edited 11/09/2015 at 19:18 | ||
| Post# 337199 , Reply# 47 11/10/2015 at 06:02 (3,082 days old) by Turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
Benny I was trying to figure out the same thing thinking the PP might be one of the longest majorly unaltered design vacs but yes your right the Vax 2000 stlye is in the run too at a good 25 years and counting. The only other machine I can think is the Henry/Numatic from the first cream/brown version to the current modern day red version is earlier than the Vax. That design has to be 35 years old by now.
Granted its a commercial machine but nonetheless its still a contender. I would of said the Hoover junior at a good 30/35 year run between 58 and 88 with another 4-5 year run as the 'Robot' by another company although it could be argued it had a few tweaks from start to finish so I suppose that depends on your outlook. Id like to see the PP beefed up with better quality parts although I personally find it a very pleasant cleaner to use, I was dissapointed to see Alex self assemble his as I dont remember having to do this to my mothers PP back in 2002. It just needs a few tweaks like the pedal mech, bumper, maybe an extra wand to use with the tools instead of the scabard tool to save it breaking - this always felt flimsy in use and maybe a better hose storage system or hose that is compact and more stretchy to stop the excess being clumsy. It also needs a normal crevice tool of shorter length on board too because as good as the scabard is it always made cleaning down the sides of sofas and under car seats awkward. A sawn off scabard version would be great so it fits into the extra normal wand they provide on the other tool storage slot which never gets used haha | ||
| Post# 337216 , Reply# 48 11/10/2015 at 08:50 (3,082 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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As the owner of a new Vax 6151, it is nothing like the Powa Vax canister my late parents had where noise and plastic quality is concerned. Even the tools, though similar by look are made of thinner plastics.
Respectively just because a vacuum cleaner has had a long service doesn't mean it is the same whether 1997 parts still fit 2015 models. Which is a pity given that the Vax cylinder tubs IME were heavier but far more durable and quieter. Is the new Hoover Purepower Eco quiet to use at least given its lower 750 watt motor? The one fitted to my Hoover Idol stick is a bit of a screamer. | ||
| Post# 337234 , Reply# 50 11/10/2015 at 13:57 (3,082 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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The Henrys Design is not the same internally as it used to be, to look at, one would think it was identical, however the 1988 HVR200 is VERY different to a 2015 HVR200 the moulding is entirely different, as switches and exhaust grills have moved places. To look at them from the front, they look pretty much the same, however, non of the internal casings are the same at all, the only thing they have in common is that they are both round, both have a smiley face and the name Henry printed on the front. That said the principle is the same and it is nice that the quality hasn't changed since 1988.
I guess I have owned too many Henrys!
I also find the Purepower a joy to use and I have always had a soft spot for them. I personally think the Purepower is the only thing worth buying from Hoover currently. | ||
| Post# 339337 , Reply# 51 12/15/2015 at 07:37 (3,047 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA) | ||
As far as reintroducing the Junior/Senior | ||
Post# 339426 , Reply# 52 12/16/2015 at 02:59 (3,046 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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So--if you have an older Hoover direct air machine-residentual or commercail--treat it well!Sad the Hoover folks under TTI are building such DRECK nowadays!Trash truck food! | ||
| Post# 339430 , Reply# 53 12/16/2015 at 06:42 (3,046 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 339476 , Reply# 54 12/17/2015 at 06:57 (3,045 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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| Post# 339497 , Reply# 55 12/17/2015 at 12:33 (3,045 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339502 , Reply# 56 12/17/2015 at 14:33 (3,045 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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| Post# 339503 , Reply# 57 12/17/2015 at 14:35 (3,045 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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"I wouldn't buy one. I'd rather pay more for something like a Sebo that's going to last and end up costing you a lot less in the long run." Do you mean not buying a Pure Power? | ||
| Post# 339560 , Reply# 58 12/18/2015 at 03:25 (3,044 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339565 , Reply# 60 12/18/2015 at 05:20 (3,044 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339566 , Reply# 61 12/18/2015 at 05:35 (3,044 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339567 , Reply# 62 12/18/2015 at 08:36 (3,044 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Lets not forget factoring in the inconvenience of having to replace the cleaner as well as having a machine that is nice to use. Personally, I'd rather pay out for a machine that I don't mind using and feels robust. The Sebo is quieter, better built and has better tools than the Purepower, making the overall experience more pleasent.
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| Post# 339576 , Reply# 63 12/18/2015 at 12:01 (3,044 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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SEBO uprights also have lifetime belts; something that the Purepower simply doesn't have.
Hoover are completely inept. They could easily fashion a Slalom and put a bagged unit into the design as Electrolux/Eureka have done with a few of their U.S uprights. Or any of their current Freedom uprights. I have no idea why Hoover Europe won't pull out their fingers. | ||
| Post# 339580 , Reply# 64 12/18/2015 at 12:59 (3,044 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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If you go on sebos website, they talk about how the fact their machines are built so well and last so long, that they are more environmentally friendly as they don't fill up landfills every few years. This is absolutely true.
The sebo is just a better vacuum from every angle for, to be honest, not a huge amount more. | ||
| Post# 339615 , Reply# 65 12/19/2015 at 12:47 (3,043 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I have to say that compared to what they were, the Sebo quality has declined over the years. Insatiable of course when the price tag has dropped too. I don't deny and never have denied that Sebo are one of the best built cleaners on the market. But I don't like them much. | ||
| Post# 339620 , Reply# 66 12/19/2015 at 14:09 (3,043 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339622 , Reply# 68 12/19/2015 at 14:52 (3,043 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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There's always the G1 with Manuel height adjustment.
I agree about the hose arrangement but that's not a problem for me as I use a cylinder cleaner for above floor cleaning. The X series is the easiest cleaner to push that I've owned. You need to eat more porridge for breakfast :-) What is your cleaner of choice? | ||
| Post# 339623 , Reply# 69 12/19/2015 at 15:11 (3,043 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I have a lady who cleans for me, she uses a Numatic (she has several James, Henry, and Hetty and brings with her whatever one is working - usually the Hetty). I like Numatic. As for an upright, I'd need to try what was currently on sale. I have always had a great like of Panasonic. | ||
| Post# 339624 , Reply# 70 12/19/2015 at 15:18 (3,043 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339626 , Reply# 71 12/19/2015 at 16:18 (3,043 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 339628 , Reply# 72 12/19/2015 at 17:04 (3,043 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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In all the 20 odd years I've owned SEBO I have never had an upright where the base of the X or Felix works loose, or allows suction to escape. I can imagine there might be an issue with the commercial uprights as they have a thumb lock at the rear which can become loose over time if it is constantly played with OR intentionally loosened so that it isn't as stiff as it normally is.
The problem with the G1 is that it no longer on sale in the UK and hasn't been for some time. Same with the G2. If you want either you either have to fork out for the expensive SM1/SM2 commercial version under Ensign brand label or import one from Germany or other countries. The new X4 Pet Boost is a good model with the button boost on the floor head for a deeper clean. The most expensive German upright isn't SEBO though; the prize goes to Miele's S7 which is about to be phased out and only available through mail order, whilst Vorwerk takes the top spot. | ||
| Post# 339629 , Reply# 73 12/19/2015 at 17:46 (3,043 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I know of an X4 Animal where the dustbox has distorted through use. When the cleaner is being pulled back, the box comes away from the two ducts onto which it sits. This results in a loud hissing noise. Sometimes the power even goes off as the plug & socket detaches. | ||
| Post# 339644 , Reply# 74 12/20/2015 at 06:52 (3,042 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 339768 , Reply# 75 12/21/2015 at 20:57 (3,041 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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I have to protest, unless you have used the newest Purepowers then I don't really accept your opinion.
Having used Both Sebo X series and the newest 2015 Purepowers, I would pick the Purepower, all be it the Sebo is superior in quality, the Purepower seems more convenient than the Sebo, which makes cleaning easier in a domestic setting and for a fraction of the price you cant really go wrong. The newest Purepowers carpet cleaning performance is better than ever in my opinion and the noise level is pretty low and doesn't ring on the ears like some of the recent previous models. I really feel these new Purepowers cling and dig into the carpet, yet easy to push, which I didn't feel with previous models, or the Sebo gliding X series. I can appreciate the Sebo would last a good while longer than the Purepower but if you bought three Purepowers for the price of one Sebo, you might well get a good long service. Preference and budget is always going to win over which you choose though, not how well the machine is going to "stand up" to the test of time. (pun unintended) | ||
| Post# 339790 , Reply# 76 12/22/2015 at 03:48 (3,040 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339795 , Reply# 77 12/22/2015 at 05:05 (3,040 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Don't waste your breath, Paul...just Alex talking nonsense again ;).
I know the automatic height control is not for everyone, but I've honestly never found a problem with it. I've lived in 4 different houses since I first got a Sebo and it's never been a problem. I've always found it sets to the correct height, with the perfect balance between ease of use and deep cleaning. It doesn't go so deep that the cleaner is difficult to use, but goes deep enough to clean the carpet to a high standard. The whole idea behind it is to be as easy and effortless as possible. Remember, not everyone wants a vacuum that ploughs into the carpet pile and is difficult to push. And even with the auto height adjustment, it still makes the dirt bounce infront of the cleaner head. | ||
| Post# 339798 , Reply# 78 12/22/2015 at 05:34 (3,040 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 339799 , Reply# 79 12/22/2015 at 06:42 (3,040 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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The height adjustment override is something I wouldn't personally be too bothered for anyway, I'm more than happy to use the auto height adjustment as it is. I would like to see the manual height model re-introduced as an entry level model though, giving the customer the choice to suit everyone's needs. Having said that, I suppose people who specifically want a manual height adjustment but still want the build quality and reliability of a Sebo would just get a Felix. | ||
| Post# 339803 , Reply# 80 12/22/2015 at 07:59 (3,040 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 339818 , Reply# 81 12/22/2015 at 14:17 (3,040 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 339819 , Reply# 82 12/22/2015 at 14:29 (3,040 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 339822 , Reply# 83 12/22/2015 at 15:35 (3,040 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Gentlemen do feel free to remind us how old you are. | ||
| Post# 339825 , Reply# 84 12/22/2015 at 15:45 (3,040 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Look out its wiseman again.... | ||
| Post# 339831 , Reply# 85 12/22/2015 at 17:10 (3,040 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Wiseman How very kind of you to bestow on me this title. Indeed you are quite correct Alex that no ID is needed to know my age, though I will admit I did think you were younger than 21. | ||
| Post# 339846 , Reply# 86 12/23/2015 at 04:10 (3,039 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Alex, do we really have to have this conversation again? You're such a hypocrite it's untrue.
Everyone is a fan of something and as I've said many times before, there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum, you just have to find what works for you.
Just because I'm a fan of Sebo cleaners, doesn't make me obsessed. As you well know, my favourite cleaners are the Lux 500 and Twin Turbo uprights. They're not Sebo's now, are they?
Not that my age has anything to do with it, but I'm 26. | ||
| Post# 420346 , Reply# 88 2/21/2020 at 05:47 (1,518 days old) by mikanic (Leeds) | ||
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By the way Hi Alex! | ||
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