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Basement find - Hoover vintage model
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Post# 317391   3/4/2015 at 05:05 (3,334 days old) by HooverFind ()        

Hi vacuumlovers :)
I discovered an old Hoover vacuumcleaner in our basement.
Check attached photo.
No idea about the model or year of production.
Any info is welcome!
Our house is from 1968, the old lady that used to live here were the first owners. This was left in the basement when we bought the house in 2007.
I figured it was time to look up some details about this Hoover. Don't know if it's still working. It looks complete, just a little dusty :)
Happy to discover there are actually vacuum collectors and websites dedicated to vacuums, amazing :)
I live in Belgium, so it's possibly a model that was only available for the European market?
Like I said, any info is welcome!
Jan


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Post# 317397 , Reply# 1   3/4/2015 at 06:41 (3,334 days old) by Firebirdman55 (Owensboro Kentucky)        

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I'd dig it out and enjoy it! That's a beautiful Hoover!

Post# 317491 , Reply# 2   3/5/2015 at 09:25 (3,333 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Hoover Convertible (or Senior)

That Hoover was introduced in 1957 in the US as the Covertible(converting to above floor cleaning with hose & attachments)and probably most of the rest of the world where they were known as the Senior(large)alongside the Junior(smaller).One of the great classic vacs.Some changes for Europe including voltage,switch location,slightly different attachments(did you find any?),etc.Yours might date to early 60s.Others will know more.Looks good and little goes wrong with reasonable care.Happy Hoovering!

Post# 317498 , Reply# 3   3/5/2015 at 11:31 (3,333 days old) by Michaelwalter (christchurch, new zealand)        

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Hi Jan

In Australia you vacuum was known as the convertible. Whilst the convertible has a very long run in various colours yours would have been manufactured between 1970 - 1974.

It looks identical to the Australian built machine and performs superbly on carpets. My mothers one was 400/620 watts, the motor speed increased as you slid the hose converter into the underside / back of the machine.

If you have the cleaning tools don't be too concerned if the suction appears weak, it was the design of hose conversion that meant much suction was lost

It looks like it will scrub up beautifully, so jealous as I'm on the lookout for the exact same machine


Mike


Post# 317505 , Reply# 4   3/5/2015 at 12:46 (3,333 days old) by HooverFind ()        

Thanks guys for the info!
I'll get it out of the basement this weekend and I'll check if it still works.
I doubt if I'll find any other parts, but still...


Post# 317523 , Reply# 5   3/5/2015 at 15:20 (3,333 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

Heres mine the 652A

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Post# 317527 , Reply# 6   3/5/2015 at 15:41 (3,333 days old) by HooverFind ()        

Thx @vacuumlover, nice one!
I just found 2 similar models on sale at
www.kapaza.be/nl/stofzuigers/hoov...
and
www.kapaza.be/nl/stofzuigers/hoov...
The last one looks like it's the same colour as yours.


Post# 317533 , Reply# 7   3/5/2015 at 16:09 (3,333 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@hooverfind

yeah its the same the bag on the one you gave me the link to thats the original bag

Post# 317571 , Reply# 8   3/6/2015 at 04:11 (3,332 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
6525

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Your Hoover will be from the late 1960s until mid 1970s and will probably be model 6525c or 6525e. If you can post the serial number of the cleaner we should be able to give you an exact date - it is just possible that the cleaner was bought new to go with a new house.

Although it may look a little old fashioned, if you have mostly carpet in your house, it could still work very well for you. It will probably need new bags, belt and maybe brush strips for the beater bar but these are readily available on ebay if not from your local shop. Replacement of these items is very simple. Its a great find anyway and if you do not want to keep it you should be able to find a customer on ebay - it is a very simple job to collapse the handle to make it very easy to post


Post# 317580 , Reply# 9   3/6/2015 at 09:56 (3,332 days old) by HooverFind ()        

Hi all, thanks for the useful info provided so far.
I got the Hoover out of the basement and tried it out and guess what: it still works :) it makes a hell of a noise though!
The lamp is still working as well, cool sight.
One of the wheels seems a bit wobbly, but other than that, it seems to be in a good working condition.
I've attached the serial n°, it's made by Hoover GB and vacbear was right, it says it's a 6525C.


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Post# 317585 , Reply# 10   3/6/2015 at 10:22 (3,332 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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That's cool that it still works. Those things were definitely built to last. The noise is understandable. After sitting for so long, the bearings likely need lubrication. I'm not a Hoover expert, although we had one almost just like that when I was growing up, so maybe others on the list can give you some more specific information about recommended lubricants and where and how they should be applied. Good luck with it!

Post# 317597 , Reply# 11   3/6/2015 at 12:47 (3,332 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        
Lovely find!

What a lovely find! And well done for taking the time to find some info out, you've certainly come to the right place!

I refurbished mine last year, they are stonking machines for carpet! Link below to the refurb thread.

Were you inclined to fix it up and use it, you'd have a great vacuum. Were you to sell it you would get a good price, although I imagine postage from Belgium may be a bit steep!

Were these popular in France back in the day? Are the voltages different or the same? The dijon factory wasn't about then, so they must have been built up in Perivale.



CLICK HERE TO GO TO beko1987's LINK


Post# 317620 , Reply# 12   3/6/2015 at 15:45 (3,332 days old) by michaelwalter (christchurch, new zealand)        

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Thanks for sharing your Senior link beko1987 most enjoyable.

I love the Seniors, smooth running, robust and very easy to give the motor an overhaul.

The hood should polish up very nicely.

Mike



Post# 317641 , Reply# 13   3/6/2015 at 18:05 (3,332 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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Looks to me that it was built in January 1973

652 Model
3 Year (it must be 1970s)
01 Month
18721 Sequence number


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Post# 317642 , Reply# 14   3/6/2015 at 18:13 (3,332 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Thanks!

It did Polish up nicely... Whilst finding this thread to post on my reply I realised I hadn't updated it! All the pictures are off my phone now though On my 64gb USB stick I keep all the vacuum stuff on. I'll update the thread over the weekend! It's up in the loft now through lack of space, needs a dust now!


Post# 317643 , Reply# 15   3/6/2015 at 18:31 (3,332 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Found one!
Yt video too, I did intend to post the afters by the looks of things!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO beko1987's LINK


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Post# 317654 , Reply# 16   3/7/2015 at 00:09 (3,331 days old) by Michaelwalter (christchurch, new zealand)        
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Hi all

Your pic Beko reminds me to ask a question I've always wondered about.

Why is it in some seniors the headlight lense appears to be yellow and others are translucent white? Is it ageing of the plastic or discolouration from heat or simply the bulb that is fitted?

Can anyone shed light on this.

Mike


Post# 317663 , Reply# 17   3/7/2015 at 02:06 (3,331 days old) by HooverFind ()        

Hi again,

@beko1987: thanks for the link to your refurbishing adventures :) that looks great!
Nice page and useful info.

@vacbear58: thanks for finding out the year of production, it's only slightly younger than me :) and nice pic of the Hoovers together.

@Michaelwalter: I was wondering about that as well. Mine seems really yellow, even with the engine off, it seems as if the plastic has a yellow finish. Could've been like that from the start or, like you said, from ageing plastic? I haven't checked the bulb yet.


Post# 317669 , Reply# 18   3/7/2015 at 04:04 (3,331 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

That's the only thing about mine that's poor, the very faded lens. It must just be different batches of plastic ageing differently, I've seen older 652s with perfect lenses!

Hooverfind, any chance you could post a video of it on youtube so we can hear the noise? My money's on it needed new brushroll bearings and a new belt, probably not alot more!


Post# 317708 , Reply# 19   3/7/2015 at 13:51 (3,331 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I noticed that the U.S. lenses ARE definitely a different

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color that all of yours.  Some indeed yelowed w/ age.  I have a brand new  British-made lens.  It is QUITE different than ours when you hold them side to side. Perhaps I can dig it out of a box and show you.


Post# 317734 , Reply# 20   3/7/2015 at 18:10 (3,331 days old) by michaelwalter (christchurch, new zealand)        

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I absolutely love the Seniors, as a wee nippa in the mid 70's mum had a 6525 as did the neighbours both sides as well as by best mates mum and another friends mum as well. Sydney were alive and well with them.

By the mid 80's they started to appear at the side of the road in quarterly council clean up's at an alarming rate, many with accomanying unused or little used tool sets. The benefit of hindsight!

We had shag pile 100% wool carpet, i remember mum having to do 4 or 5 bag changes each time she cleaned the house when the carpet was first installed although they have a large 5br home. it certainly served her well over the several decades she had it, maintenance free apart from bag and belt changes.

The beast with the headlight use to scare the shit out of me when i was 3 or so!

Living in NZ now, the senior never made it over the ditch, the junior was the only upright on the market for a while so needless to say with fond memories of the senior.

If any fellow vacuumlanders have a 240v Senior in great order in any colour they that would consider selling (i do empasise great order as my last connie purchased from ebay in the UK cost $300 nzd in freight)then please drop me a line at michaelwalter@hotmail.co.nz and we can negotiate a good price. Tool kit desirable but not essential as they come up on ebay frequently.

Cheers


Mike


Post# 317794 , Reply# 21   3/8/2015 at 14:19 (3,330 days old) by HooverFind ()        

@beko1987: here is the link



I don't know if you can make much of it, it's noisy, that's for sure :)
And it started to smell a bit funny as well, nothing burnt, just dusty and dry.


Post# 317845 , Reply# 22   3/9/2015 at 12:04 (3,329 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Oooh lovely, will have a listen when I get home from work (just gone 5pm here in the UK, half an hour to go!) The headlight works though!

It will smell very dusty if it's been sat for years with a full bag. You can take it off the machine, undo the clip at the bottom to seperate it from the bag fill tube assembly, vac it off gently with another vacuum then hand wash it, being careful of the lettering on the bag, then gently wringing it out then air drying somewhere warm. Use a bit of fabric softener and it should smell lovely!



Post# 317862 , Reply# 23   3/9/2015 at 15:13 (3,329 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Its a shame the sound is muffled on the video, but it doesn't sound bad, just dry!

New brushroll bearings and a belt would make it sound 70% better, new motor bearings should sort the other 30% out.

Happy to send you some if you wanted? Don't know what vac spares are like in France though, may be easy. Brushroll bearings and belt will be anyway, the bearings were used on pretty much everything until the Turbopower 2 in 1993 I think. Certainly ly turbopower 1/junior/senior ones will fit.


Post# 317897 , Reply# 24   3/10/2015 at 05:12 (3,328 days old) by HooverFind ()        

@beko1987 thanks for the info. I'm going to leave it as it is for now (no plans on using it straight away), but good to know you're able to help if I want to change the bearings/belt! Thanks again, Jan

Post# 317899 , Reply# 25   3/10/2015 at 06:29 (3,328 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Put a fresh bag in and a new belt on and it'll soldier on for many years yet as is!


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