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How can I get the musty smell out of Hoover Convertible vinyl outer bags?
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Post# 316891   2/26/2015 at 19:06 (3,339 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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I recently won an eBay auction for a lot of Hoover Convertible vinyl outer bags.

I got the bags today. They look really nice but they smell to high heavens! They have a strong musty, moldy smell; you know, that "damp old basement" odor. I wonder if I can ever get it out.

I took them right outside to hang on the closeline to get them out of the apartment because they were really stinking up the place.

I do hope the smell will go away but it's really strong.

Anyone have any ideas? I have very limited experience with "later" Hoovers (newer than ones with cloth bags).

Thanks.......



Post# 316892 , Reply# 1   2/26/2015 at 19:30 (3,339 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Try febreeze, can't hurt

Post# 316897 , Reply# 2   2/26/2015 at 20:49 (3,339 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        

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soak them in dawn for a few days. theyll be fine

Post# 316901 , Reply# 3   2/26/2015 at 21:11 (3,339 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Does it have to be Dawn? I use Palmolive lavender-scent dish soap. Will that do? If not, I'll buy a small bottle of Dawn. Thanks.


Post# 316972 , Reply# 4   2/27/2015 at 16:28 (3,338 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
moist cellar smell

is unually what you already have guessed: A musty odor usually points the way to mildew or some fungus (aspergilla nigra usually, if not others).

The bad news: Different from what the average Joe believes, mildew/yeasts/fungus will ALSO inhabit synthetic materials, They love all soft and pliable stuff, especially rubber (real rubber the most, a bit less the neoprene stuff). Vinyl is ok for them for a quick nibble and some nesting in, but it is not their favorite.

The good (and bad news): Some chemicals (harmless ones as well as nasty ones) can kill the beasts.

What has to be kept in mind:
Fungi will dig small tunnels in every material they get hold of in order to spread their small threads (the "roots" if you will - once there is a fungus IN the material, the latter is usually rotten or destroyed for good). From there they rise to the surface, then showing us their blackish spotted or their greenish and hairy "blossoms" to spread their spores again... (and so on) - the plant comparison is wrong, fungi are not real plants per se.

How cleaning can work:

In all cases, try to wash off any organic material that does not belong there. As long as mildew has only settled ON the stuff, you may be lucky. Once settled IN (and the perforation has already begun) then the item you try to clean is a case for the incinerator.

After some serious washing try to kill the remaining organisms, there are basically 2 ways for this (A or B, see below):

A- an overdose of oxygen or activated oxygen (so chlorine or ozone)

Commercial anti-fungus sprays contain sodium hypochlorite, that is bascially caustic chlorox crystals like in Drano or Amway oven cleaner and all other DIY fungus wonder potions)
Milder but still enough chlorine = Clorox and all its derivates (also mildly caustic, use gloves when working with all of the above)

"activated" (read: aggressive) oxygen = ozone O3. Expose the item to be cleaned in ozonated air (ozone generators can be had at car shops for a small renting fee per day)

Bad about all oxygen/chlorine action: Caustic. May bleach or deteriorate your material.

B -Killing off the organic remainders with suitable discinfectants (here: mostly alcohol and other disinfectants).
Use lamp spirit, isopropanol, any alcoholic disinfectant or the ones containing anything "benz.." or "alcyl..."

Good: Non caustic. Will not smell, will not etch colors out. Bad: Will not kill deep down into the "tunnels" in the material, so the fungus might come back eventually.

Other than the two methods above:
The C method (all sour/acid stuff like concentrated vinegar, which the fungi do not like)
and D method (scent masking, Febreze, Airwick) will only be temporarily.
A or B is the way to kill them off (IF you are lucky and your item is NOT YET perforated).

Good luck.



Post# 317006 , Reply# 5   2/28/2015 at 06:56 (3,337 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
Musty Odor

I use Febreeze.. Just spray it on and let it dry.. This usually works.

Post# 317065 , Reply# 6   2/28/2015 at 23:17 (3,337 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Thanks, especially to whirlpolf, for the suggestions.

The odor was too strong to dispatch with Febreze.

I tried whirlpolf's suggestion, in essence -- I washed the bags with Gain liquid laundry detergent, rinsed well, then soaked them for about an hour in a large bucket of water with about a third-cup of chlorine bleach.

The bags came out beautifully, appearance-wise. They look brand-new. The smell did diminish somewhat, but it's still detectable.

Even though there are no visible signs of mold or mildew, I am a little bit afraid to use them now after what whirlpolf said about mold. Does anyone else care to weigh in on this? (Informed input would, of course, be more helpful than wild speculations.)




Post# 317067 , Reply# 7   2/28/2015 at 23:56 (3,337 days old) by Bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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I've used Lysol Disinfectant on a few things to get rid of the musty odor.
I've sprayed it on a rag then wiped down the pages of an owners manual that smelled Musty and of Mildew.


Post# 317073 , Reply# 8   3/1/2015 at 03:20 (3,336 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
I forgot

about the Lysol disinfectant. That works too. I used it on a rug I got out of a basement and it took the smell away, but then the whole house smelled like a hospital for awhile. But the hospital smell went away eventially..

Post# 317109 , Reply# 9   3/1/2015 at 11:54 (3,336 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I've soaked them in detergent, original Lysol

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AND Muleteam borax, then dry them out in the sun.

Post# 317114 , Reply# 10   3/1/2015 at 12:13 (3,336 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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As of this morning they still smell. I had hung them in the laundry room and smelled them in the hallway before I even went in there. I hung them on the back porch and then when I get home I will drench them with Lysol and then hang them on the clothesline for a few days. If the odor still isn't gone, I'm going to chuck them. I'm really concerned about the mold issue. Even though there is none visible, the nose tells me that there is something going on with them. That's a real shame as they are like new.


Post# 317117 , Reply# 11   3/1/2015 at 12:34 (3,336 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
Use the bags...

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the airflow will help if what i have read is true about mildew.
This link looked to have a number of worthy ideas.
Good luck!


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Post# 317135 , Reply# 12   3/1/2015 at 14:30 (3,336 days old) by Marks_here (_._)        

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Use white vinegar not the cider one & some lemon juice...wipe the entire item them place them out in the sun. The lemon juice is a neutraliser & should take care of it also you may need to do this application more then one time.

Post# 317145 , Reply# 13   3/1/2015 at 15:51 (3,336 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Thanks again for the tips. White vinegar & lemon juice sound reasonable, as does actually using the bags and getting some warm air flow through them (although I wonder if I do that, will the smell drive me out of the apartment?!).

I'll wait for a couple of days to see how they do hanging in the sun. I sprayed them down really good with Clorox Spray Disinfectant/Deodorizer-- the label states that it removes mold and mildew. We shall see...

The bag I'm really looking for is turquoise - à la Model 31. I thought I had one on eBay but some bugger sniped it. However, the tan bag "will do."


Post# 317158 , Reply# 14   3/1/2015 at 18:19 (3,336 days old) by Marks_here (_._)        

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If you have an outside covered porch let them hang out there & keep a check on them as I don't know how windy Cali. is this time of the year. Just make sure you're not making a home made bomb with all those things also mind the pets too so they don't inhale too much of that. Here is another thought you can try in tandem leave hanging during the day and at night get a sealed container put some halved lemons in there and seal them up & the next morning hang them out again...it might work...


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