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Post# 316434   2/22/2015 at 13:25 (3,342 days old) by dysonabsolute ()        

Hi guys, just had my het200 out of the box for the second time. Still really impressed with the power from such a small output motor. Assuming the wessel werk floor head contributes to the performance and also I have noticed the hose is very thick at the entry of the machine but not wand end similar to some dc08 models.

Anyway I am sure you are all aware that this 580w model didn't stay around for long and that they went back go the original style hi lo switch. Doesn't anyone know why they did this or has anyone approached numatic.

Also what was your favourite motor setup on the numatic machines? I had the 1200w autosave before this hetty. I must say I prefer the single speed and that large power light looks pretty cool. ")


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Post# 316435 , Reply# 1   2/22/2015 at 13:29 (3,342 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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They haven't exactly gone back to the hi-lo models. The newer Numatic's are 600w with a 2 speed motor - no autosave.

 

I much prefer the 580w models over the previous 1200w models too and that new floorhead makes the world of difference on carpet.


Post# 316443 , Reply# 2   2/22/2015 at 14:06 (3,342 days old) by dysonabsolute ()        

Well it's a hi lo switch.


Post# 316446 , Reply# 3   2/22/2015 at 14:29 (3,342 days old) by marcusprit ()        

620w on the high so is it 310w on the low? That's about the same power as a hair dryer isn't it? :)

Post# 316449 , Reply# 4   2/22/2015 at 14:39 (3,342 days old) by dysonabsolute ()        

Hairdryer lol. Doesn't anyone still use the paper bags in the numatic machines? Are they any better than the cloth ones.

Post# 316450 , Reply# 5   2/22/2015 at 14:41 (3,342 days old) by marcusprit ()        

The cloth bags are better. They filter better and allow more airflow.

Post# 316451 , Reply# 6   2/22/2015 at 14:50 (3,342 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
That's about the same power as a hair dryer isn't it

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Still more powerful than a Hoover Junior and they cleaned perfectly well.


Post# 316452 , Reply# 7   2/22/2015 at 14:54 (3,342 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Oh yes i like Henrys but 620w seems a bit low for a cylinder cleaner they need a bit more power to pull through a long hose. Uprights are fine at around 700w.

I think you might see more cylinder cleaners come with PN in future when the EU limit goes down to 900w


Post# 316454 , Reply# 8   2/22/2015 at 14:57 (3,342 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Marcus, I assure you, the 580w version had MORE than enough suction to clean well.


Post# 316455 , Reply# 9   2/22/2015 at 14:58 (3,342 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Oh ok i'm glad to hear it :)

Post# 316473 , Reply# 10   2/22/2015 at 16:29 (3,342 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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As the owner of the Eco-Henry with 580 watts, the suction is just as effective as the older 1200 watt ones. Numatic have no worries - their sealed suction AND sealed dust bags seem to keep the power going.

It makes no sense to me why more cylinders will come to the UK with powered brush rolls though. Fine if the hose and brush roll are jammed on permanently; that way the brush rolls would have to deal with hard floor cleaning as well - but I think that defeats the purpose of a cylinder vacuum in general.

The easiest way of seeing how it would work is if brands are afraid that their pick up tests will be finally investigated and results fairly shown. I can forsee that a 500 watt cylinder vac with a powerful brush roll would justify a good enough rating, but one forgets that it isn't just carpet performance that these vacuums must excel in.


Post# 316546 , Reply# 11   2/23/2015 at 13:31 (3,341 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

I defiantly prefer the 580W. The auto save seemed to me (no offense!) a bit of a daft idea. I can clean fine with 580W

Post# 316550 , Reply# 12   2/23/2015 at 14:26 (3,341 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Am. I the only one who loves the Autosense?

Post# 316551 , Reply# 13   2/23/2015 at 14:35 (3,341 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Am. I the only one who loves the Autosense?

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Autosense = Hoover
Autosave = Numatic

And yes. Both were utterly pointless features :P


Post# 316568 , Reply# 14   2/23/2015 at 17:50 (3,341 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Oops. Well spotted Chris lol. Yes I did mean Autosave, I like it though

Post# 316580 , Reply# 15   2/23/2015 at 21:40 (3,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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How can you like it, if you have never actually owned a Henry that has it? Or have you?

Post# 316590 , Reply# 16   2/24/2015 at 01:47 (3,340 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

My Aunty has one and I have used it loads and loads of times when I visit etc :) so I know what they are like

Post# 316596 , Reply# 17   2/24/2015 at 04:05 (3,340 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@parwaz786

Yes i think you're the only one who likes it lol

Post# 316628 , Reply# 18   2/24/2015 at 12:44 (3,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Does she have the same kind of carpets and layout as your home?

Post# 316675 , Reply# 19   2/24/2015 at 16:02 (3,340 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

She has a carpeted house, whereas our house is multi floor. She has all plush carpets wall to wall, we have those too including the area rugs downstairs except for the burber on the flights of stairs and landing

Post# 316700 , Reply# 20   2/24/2015 at 19:38 (3,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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It makes a big difference then - when are you getting your Henry?

Post# 316725 , Reply# 21   2/25/2015 at 09:52 (3,339 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I dont know when, I plan to get a few other models of my favourite bagless brand before I get one of these. I would like one made between 2004-2013



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Post# 316726 , Reply# 22   2/25/2015 at 10:20 (3,339 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I like onion bagels.


Post# 316727 , Reply# 23   2/25/2015 at 10:20 (3,339 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Bagels brand?

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Post# 316728 , Reply# 24   2/25/2015 at 10:22 (3,339 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I like onion bhajis :-)

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Post# 316729 , Reply# 25   2/25/2015 at 10:26 (3,339 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I like mine with ham and a little salt.

Post# 316730 , Reply# 26   2/25/2015 at 10:37 (3,339 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I like onion bhajis :-)

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Grrrrr. I'm hungry now.


Grumble grumble grumble!


Post# 316731 , Reply# 27   2/25/2015 at 10:40 (3,339 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Me too but I won't finish work till 6-30 :-( Think I might get a take away on the way home :-)

Post# 316734 , Reply# 28   2/25/2015 at 11:12 (3,339 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I'm currently munching on a chicken burger meal with salt, vinegar, mayo and chilli sauce!

Post# 317401 , Reply# 29   3/4/2015 at 07:10 (3,332 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        
580 watt Hetty

I have both 1200w hi/low and 580w Hetty's and cannot feel much suction difference between the 580 and the 1200 (at full power)!!!

Although I find that the earlier hi/low (bought 2008) is easier and effective enough to use with my 'Basil' floor head on the 'low' power; which I assume operates at no more than 600-610 watts, can anybody confirm this?

I find the four wheeled 'Basil' type head still better than the 'Wessel-werk' head, I even have to open the suction control when using it with the 580 watt machine as even it 'clamps' like the wessel!

I did not know anything about this new 600w hi/low model, when did it come out, must have been very recently?

Regards,

Walter.


Post# 317411 , Reply# 30   3/4/2015 at 08:28 (3,332 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Awesome!
The reason why I want one from 2004-2013 is because they have the same motors. Also, my Aunty has a 2012 Eco Henry (Autosave) and in her carpeted house, she has different types of carpet. The carpet downstairs is a thin pile carpet. In the hallway, on the landing and in one of the 3 bedrooms, that is a thicker pile (approx) 8mm thicker. And the other two bedrooms has a similar type of carpet and although the kitchen has laminate, there is a rug there with rubber backing. The Henry is hard to push on all of those carpets. It has SUCH good airflow and suction. I thought that those Henry's are the most powerful. So I want a nice Henry that can spin the Airobrush really fast.



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