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Thread Number: 28173
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
new Miele C3 Celebration w/powernozzle available in the UK |
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| Post# 314943 2/8/2015 at 16:38 (3,358 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
 Hey folks,
Still quite steep at £400, but now directly rivaling the price range of the Sebo D4. I'm not keen on the wire around the hoses and tubes but it's nice to see another Miele PN model available. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK | ||
| Post# 314944 , Reply# 1 2/8/2015 at 16:39 (3,358 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 314945 , Reply# 2 2/8/2015 at 16:40 (3,358 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 314953 , Reply# 3 2/8/2015 at 18:44 (3,358 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 314956 , Reply# 4 2/8/2015 at 19:37 (3,358 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
I suspect it is probably to cheapen it by putting the power nozzle cord externally, however, as you can see, there is a C3 Comfort with a power nozzle here (link bellow) with the regular Miele Power nozzle and all the wiring is internal on that model, needless to say, the C3 Comfort is more expensive.
www.miele.co.uk/vacuum-cleaners/C... Also, I don't like the look of that power nozzle on the C3 Celebration. | ||
| Post# 314957 , Reply# 5 2/8/2015 at 19:52 (3,358 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 314959 , Reply# 6 2/8/2015 at 20:00 (3,358 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 314961 , Reply# 7 2/8/2015 at 20:03 (3,358 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 314962 , Reply# 8 2/8/2015 at 21:05 (3,358 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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I actually like the hefty feel of the AirTeq nozzle: it feels solid and well made, and the added weight adds pressure to the carpet to help it deep clean the fibres. This tool will not "surf" and "skip" over the surface of rugs. The two rubber wheels are quite large and make movement easier than smaller wheels or rollers.
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| Post# 314969 , Reply# 10 2/9/2015 at 01:17 (3,358 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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| Post# 314972 , Reply# 11 2/9/2015 at 04:22 (3,357 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 314973 , Reply# 12 2/9/2015 at 04:23 (3,357 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK) | ||
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Erm... That's a huge no from me- having used PN machines with external cables they are a pain in the neck.... and my K3 Eco was £160 less!! Seamus | ||
| Post# 314974 , Reply# 13 2/9/2015 at 04:27 (3,357 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I know Chris but aren't both power nozzles tested by Miele? Surely their TOL nozzle the 236 would give as good results as the 228 power nozzle? Not sure I like the cable being on the outside either. ' | ||
| Post# 315056 , Reply# 14 2/9/2015 at 21:07 (3,357 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
If this shares the same setup as the externally corded 236, with a plugged connection that clips onto the bottom of the extension wand and mates with the PN neck, you at least have the option of removing the PN to fit a floor brush or combi head, while leaving the cable in situ.
As for using the small tools directly on the handle, however, this means unclipping and removing the entire cord from the hose each time. Now that really would be a P in the A, and an inconvenience I would find inexcusable on a cleaner costing £400. I'd go with Sebo if I was buying a PN cylinder. For less money you get direct connect at every step along the way from the machine to the powerhead, remote power control, lower running costs and an additional 3 years' warranty. | ||
| Post# 315416 , Reply# 17 2/13/2015 at 06:36 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I very nearly bid on a Miele C3 recently (the old S5 body) on the basis that it offers near enough the spec of the new SEBO E series and possible weight since the newer motors are lighter. However, I"ll be keen to see what length the power cable is on the new E series and it all comes down to pricing.
Miele can charge what they like of course, but with a three tier range of models, the SEBO E has to be cost effective at the least. Half of its work is done already based on the fact SEBO will put more than 4 bags in a box with long term costs. I'll just have to wait and see what the new E brings to the table. | ||
| Post# 315417 , Reply# 18 2/13/2015 at 06:41 (3,353 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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(the old S5 body) | ||
| Post# 315420 , Reply# 19 2/13/2015 at 06:54 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The C2 Complete (S5) is 6kg and the C3 Complete (S8) is 5.4kg. Not sure what the Sebo E series weighs? It has a 10.8m cleaning radius so similar to the C3 Complete which has an 11m cleaning radius. | ||
| Post# 315422 , Reply# 20 2/13/2015 at 07:35 (3,353 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 315426 , Reply# 21 2/13/2015 at 08:10 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I dunno maybe some people prefer the rotating knob to the foot switches? Is the S5 built better than the S8? | ||
| Post# 315427 , Reply# 22 2/13/2015 at 08:23 (3,353 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Is the S5 built better than the S8? | ||
| Post# 315428 , Reply# 23 2/13/2015 at 08:28 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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| Post# 315429 , Reply# 24 2/13/2015 at 08:29 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Haha i agree with you i think it's strange too! I like the blue colour celebration S8 very nice. But then blue is my fav colour. | ||
| Post# 315431 , Reply# 25 2/13/2015 at 08:43 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Speaking as an owner of both the S5 is slightly heavier and a bit more robust than the S8. Miele have counter acted this with a slight increase of the rubberised bumper on the S8 bodies, minimising body scratches compared to the S5.
The S8 also has no rotary dial control for suction speed and I rather love that there's a push button memory that the Miele will save on the S8 rather than having to press the speed after use, each time. Its a little thing, but I dont mind the change up from dial to press buttons. Im not all that bothered on how a suction speed looks; as long as a cylinder vac has one I'm happy. Miele always wants to make money but since the recession I think they are just selling off the last of the bodies and machines; the S4 "Young Style" is proof of this; it appeared shortly after the blue S4212 was phased out and was a Curry's exclusive for a short time. Alongside that was the S700 cylinder vacs and after September 2014, few were also sold with the low rated motors. Its all about making money, Chris; that's why Miele have introduced all these "older" vacuums on the market; not just to counteract a recession and thus giving buyers a wider choice, but also to finish off older production bodies. SEBO are also doing the same; they're happy with sales of the K series and are selling the E series alongside the K series and in time will phase out the K, just as the D series did for the C series. The Germans are not into wasting many a good design, particularly if it still sells well and if there is life left to give. | ||
| Post# 315433 , Reply# 26 2/13/2015 at 09:06 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Ah yes that makes sense Nar :) | ||
| Post# 315437 , Reply# 27 2/13/2015 at 09:28 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Of course Miele have also counteracted these old machines versus new by offering more components as well.
Only a few months ago they offered the now difficult to find "flex handle" XXL handle which allows any Miele S6 owner to double up the hose in a more compact way. It is also a bit longer than the standard bent handle and can also be retro-fitted to any Miele cylinder vac provided that the machine has double slots on the body. I thought about it but I ordered the Comfort handle from Miele in Germany as I find it far more comfortable to use than the bent handle on my S8. | ||
| Post# 315438 , Reply# 28 2/13/2015 at 09:35 (3,353 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'd likie a comfort handle. How much did you pay for yours Nar? I've seen them on Ebay for around £40. | ||
| Post# 315440 , Reply# 29 2/13/2015 at 09:51 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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