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Thread Number: 28094
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Sebo or Panasonic? |
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| Post# 313855 , Reply# 2 1/31/2015 at 02:28 (3,367 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio) | ||
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Forgot... To add, if you order from Panasonic and have a Discover card use the shop Discover portal. You'll get 5% in cash back from the order. | ||
Post# 313857 , Reply# 3 1/31/2015 at 02:52 (3,367 days old) by Durango159  (State College, PA) |
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Panasonic Definitely!!!
A Panasonic may possibly not last as long as the Sebo in the end, however, you'll pay less in the beginning, less along the way in parts if and when they are needed and have better cleaning results.
I've used several Sebos and although they are made fairly well, I've never experienced the clean from them that I get from most several other manufacturers. For me Performance tops everything because I'm using a vacuum cleaner to accomplish a task and I want the best tool for the job!!! From attachments, to user friendliness, cleaning power I would definitely go for Panasonic. Or if you haven't already checked it out and since you're pricing Sebo then I would ABSOLUTELY recommend checking out Riccar/ Simplicity. Great machines, Made in the USA. Riccars are high performance and very durable with a wide price range to fit several budgets and market niches. | ||
| Post# 313869 , Reply# 4 1/31/2015 at 07:52 (3,366 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
I agree.
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Auto carpet height is a gimmick waiting to break. On the Panny it just means it is a floating head design. That basic Panasonic design comes from a number of companies, most of which are made by Tacony (as Durango mentioned): Riccar, Simplicity, CarpetPro, Powr-Flite, Fuller Brush..phew(!) the list goes on. It is really an, "open source" design vacuum if you are familiar with the term. I posted a new $200 Tennet from Ebay recently that I would probably prefer to the Panny. It would be close price excluded because I love that black Panny. But for $200 (now sold) it beat the Panny hands down. See video at link. I'll look again and see what I find. Nevertheless that $330 price is very good if it includes tax and shipping. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK 
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| Post# 313873 , Reply# 5 1/31/2015 at 09:02 (3,366 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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Sticking with Panasonic..
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There is the fomer TOL Panasonic to consider, the MC-UG787. I believe you can still find it new. It may be the superior vacuum, it's MSRP was very high. See link to an excellent discussion of it here on VL by vegassucks who i thank for the pic below. As i point out in the link there is also a Commercial version as there is with the Panasonic you found, both of which are defintely available . Basically it means color, cord and metal. Commercial colors, longer 3 prong cord, metal on the bottom but not for the wand, and sometimes 12 amp motor vs 10 amp capped for the commercial. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK This post was last edited 01/31/2015 at 09:56 | ||
| Post# 313875 , Reply# 6 1/31/2015 at 09:06 (3,366 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Auto carpet height is a gimmick waiting to break. | ||
| Post# 313876 , Reply# 7 1/31/2015 at 09:29 (3,366 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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You did say price is not a consideration..
with me it usually is.
With that in mind did you consider the Windsor version of the Felix2, the Axcess 15? See link below. Karcher also sells a Felix among other labels no doubt. Still no where near the bewildering array of Panny copies and clones. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK
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| Post# 313878 , Reply# 9 1/31/2015 at 09:41 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Id take the SEBO Essential G2
Personally if it was me, and given you're happy with the SEBO X5 already APART from the auto sensor, I agree with FantomLightning - either the SEBO Essential G2 in the U.S is available or the slightly lower motor powered Windsor S15, both models are like the X as you know, but come with the bigger 14" floor head.
The Axxcess/Felix design is a good one but it has a smaller dust bag capacity than the SEBO X. Windsor charge $674.95 compared to SEBO U.S who are charging $599 for their domestic version. Link to SEBO U.S CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 313879 , Reply# 10 1/31/2015 at 09:52 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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By the way I also have an Taski-Ensign SM2, which is like a commercial UK version of the SEBO Essential G2 but in a different colour. I am impressed though having wool carpets means the model has to be left in the 3rd setting to avoid marking on my carpets. The model surges forward just like the auto sensor version but it is still just as light to push over my carpets and offers consistent cleaning.
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| Post# 313882 , Reply# 11 1/31/2015 at 10:28 (3,366 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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Sebo Essential vs Hoover Insight
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VL member KirbyloverDan, who has owned both, made a case for the similiarly designed Hoover in a previous thread. I found his arguements very compelling. *Warning* geralization ahead... Euro vacs are often reflexively assumed to be superior but in my expiernce they have their downsides and many names are no longer built to even relatively recent high design standards that once prevailed. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK
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| Post# 313883 , Reply# 12 1/31/2015 at 10:38 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I forgot about the Insight. I suppose its a good back up consideration if you want something cheaper.
And yet despite the SEBO copy clone, the Insight is made in China. It also doesn't have much of a good write up from OTHER buyers (not collectors by the looks of it) from Amazon.com CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 313902 , Reply# 14 1/31/2015 at 14:37 (3,366 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Insight | ||
| Post# 313906 , Reply# 15 1/31/2015 at 15:31 (3,366 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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| Post# 313912 , Reply# 16 1/31/2015 at 17:39 (3,366 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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Shoot the works.. | ||
| Post# 313940 , Reply# 17 2/1/2015 at 03:20 (3,366 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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You won't be disappointed with the Sebo Felix in Europe you won't find a better bagged upright. | ||
| Post# 313941 , Reply# 18 2/1/2015 at 04:05 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The brush roll doesn't shut off on the 370 when cleaning hard floors.
The Felix is the only one in the SEBO upright range where the brush roll switches off for hard floor cleaning. However, as I said before, the only downside is the bag capacity. Based on the Panasonic and the SEBO X which offers 5 or more litres capacity, the Felix 3.5 litre capacity is that great deal smaller. The Karcher, Windsor and other copies don't have variable suction control, helght adjustable handle and brush roll on/off facility on the ET1 power nozzle, though this may have changed - best to check. | ||
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