Thread Number: 28082  /  Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
What model Kirby is this? 505 - 115?
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Post# 313751   1/29/2015 at 20:48 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

I've been trying to figure out what model this is, it seems like it might be a 505 with a 115 handle, but I'm not positive. We don't know anything about its origins (...or about vintage vacuums, to be honest).

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Post# 313752 , Reply# 1   1/29/2015 at 20:54 (3,372 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Looks to be. . . that red bag with the 513/515-style Kirby logo/stripes is quite a gem even if it is bojack.

~Ben


Post# 313754 , Reply# 2   1/29/2015 at 21:23 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

Yeah, I dig the bag - it's a shame it's so faded. I'm sure it could use a wash. I'm hoping if I can narrow down the model, I can figure out how to take some of the pieces off - I'm slightly terrified of ruining it!

Post# 313756 , Reply# 3   1/29/2015 at 21:54 (3,372 days old) by Bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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1. It looks like a 505 motor and nozzle
2. there is no model 115 for the handle it would be 505 through 515
3. I'd like to see a picture of the emptor side, if it has an emptor the bag could be an early 50's Kirby replacement bag for the 505. If there is no emptor and this is a conversion bag to use an F&G bag it's an aftermarket bag.
4. I'd like to see a better picture of the top of the bag as well.
5. Is the emptor small and thin with a small opening for the bag to fit on?
6. what does the bottom of the nozzle look like?

I have a Kirby C from 1936 that has a similar open top bag that came from Kirby in the mid 50's as a replacement for the older style bag. It was a gray that has faded to a salmon pink color.


Post# 313757 , Reply# 4   1/29/2015 at 21:56 (3,372 days old) by d-jones (Pittsburgh)        

Isn't the model number there on the data plate below the motor? That's where it should be. The 505 is my favorite of all the Kirby's. I can't really say why, it just is. I wonder how hard it would be to track down the parts needed to make this one look original?

Post# 313759 , Reply# 5   1/29/2015 at 22:06 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

d-jones: I didn't even think of looking on the bottom! It's definitely a 505! It also specifies it's a 110 volt.

Bikerray: I can try to get some more photos for you soon, though I'm not sure what an emptor is - can you clarify? Is it something you hook the internal bag to, or the cloth bag?



Post# 313762 , Reply# 6   1/29/2015 at 22:22 (3,372 days old) by Bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Ok, so we know it's a 505 from the serial plate.
So the rest of the questions don't matter any more.

The emptor is that little metal box at the bottom of the bag. The bottom of the emptor opens up to dump the garbage out of the bag.


Post# 313764 , Reply# 7   1/29/2015 at 23:00 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

I'm not finding a metal box - I do see where the paper bag is connected, it's got a thin plastic ring holding it in place (where I've seen newer vacuums having a cardboard) to a short hose of sorts that continues to the visible bit you see in my picture. I can't find anything matching your description of an emptor, though.

Attached is a picture of the other side (including a nasty rip!), in case that gives you more info.


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Post# 313765 , Reply# 8   1/29/2015 at 23:04 (3,372 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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We have another Oregonian on board!

~Ben


Post# 313766 , Reply# 9   1/29/2015 at 23:22 (3,372 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kennis:

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That bag is not original, Kirby didn't use paper bags till 1979. That's most likely a Royal bag with a Kirby logo.

The Sani-em-tor was a box with a drop tray to remove the dust/dirt. This fit on the exhaust port, and the cloth bag was attached to that.

Shown here are several Kirby machines so you can see the mechinism.


Post# 313767 , Reply# 10   1/29/2015 at 23:37 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

Ben: That you do! I'm a bit west of you, in Washington county.

Caligula: Oh, interesting! I imagine I can find this with a bit of searching, but is it feasible to put a Sani-em-tor on this vacuum now, or am I stuck with paper bags?


Post# 313768 , Reply# 11   1/29/2015 at 23:45 (3,372 days old) by Bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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the emptor would look like this

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Post# 313769 , Reply# 12   1/30/2015 at 01:01 (3,372 days old) by kennis ()        

Oh, wow - yeah, nothing like that on mine at all!

Post# 313780 , Reply# 13   1/30/2015 at 07:37 (3,371 days old) by toastermike (Milwaukie Oregon)        

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Kennis

The Sani-em-tor rotates and locks on the fan case the same way your bag does. You can get a new black cloth bag and hanger made by Kirby for the early 500 series models. I recently restored a 509 and used one (pictured below). I believe the emtors might be interchangable on the 505-515 Kirby's. Someone correct me if that's not true. If you decide to change it I might have an emptor you can have. It's nice to see another local! I live near Ben in Milwaukie and work in Hillsboro. I find most of vacuums that I restore or use as parts donors at the Goodwill Outlet stores in Milwaukie and Hillsboro.

Mike


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Post# 313785 , Reply# 14   1/30/2015 at 10:29 (3,371 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
VERY? VERY NICE

Is that a rebuild from the Kirby factory? Very nice Job Doug


Post# 313786 , Reply# 15   1/30/2015 at 11:49 (3,371 days old) by toastermike (Milwaukie Oregon)        

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Thank you!

No it is not a factory rebiuld. When I found this 509 at the Goodwil outlet store it had the usual red trim and an ugly tan bojack bag and the motor growled a little. I did the prepwork of sanding the rough deep scratches. A friend who restores Kirby's sent out the large metal pieces for professional machine polishing, and he polished the smaller pieces and worked on the motor to quiet it down. I ordered new black wheels, the black bag and new soft trim that only comes in tan. Inspired by one of the other members work I painted the trim the orginal gray color with commercial automotive interior paint that is very durable. Recently I found a parts donor that gave it a fresh motor and perfect belt lifter and the 509 looks and operates like a new vacuum! Since I completed the 509 I did the same thing with a D80. I have always been a been a big Royal fan, but with the ease of dismantling and the availability of so many parts for even realy old models, Kirby's are fun and rewarding to restore!

Mike


Post# 313788 , Reply# 16   1/30/2015 at 12:15 (3,371 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kennis:

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Since I didn't sign that post you didn't know that 'Caligula' was the cat pictured resting in my lap. He was also the mascott for the Vacuum Cleaner Collector's Club. As for me, the name is Alex Taber, and I'm the man who founded the V.C.C.C. back in 1983.

I'm also a former training manager for Kirby, working mostly in the western suburbs of Illinois, but also spent time on assignment in San Diego in September-December 1979.

I have three interests in vacuum cleaners, 1. Electrolux, 2. Kirby, and 3. the non-electric machines from 1869-1920. If you need Kirby history, contact me at Ralextaber@gmail.com and I'll share patent info, and other Kirby material.




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