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SEBO E Series Now Landed in Germany
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Post# 311392   1/9/2015 at 11:53 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Thanks to Jon who flagged this up on the UK group on FB.

Sebo in Germany have at last released details on the E series cylinder/canister vac. As reported by a few other members on here, there are three models E1, E1 Parquet and E3Premium. For the moment other sites in Europe have yet to list the new range.

A range of 700 watt models appears to be available as well as higher 1200 watt models.





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Post# 311393 , Reply# 1   1/9/2015 at 11:58 (3,366 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Post# 311420 , Reply# 2   1/9/2015 at 15:57 (3,366 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Thank you sebo_fan, your welcome. Thank you for posting the info on here like the picture line up you have posted the E series does look very nice cylinder/canister. Hopefully we can all see it in person soon!

Post# 311809 , Reply# 3   1/13/2015 at 04:21 (3,362 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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ooh, hello powernozzle model!! This could be good. I love the D4 but it's so big and the K series have that silly upholstery-brush-on-crevice-tool set up which I'm not a fan of, so hopefully this is the happy medium.

 

Does anyone know if these are intended to replace the K series?


Post# 311812 , Reply# 4   1/13/2015 at 04:59 (3,362 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Apparently they are intended to replace the K "eventually", Chris as SEBO seem to be selling a lot of the K series worldwide. Dont speak too soon on the tools though, this E may well have a similar push on upholstery tool onto the crevice.

Post# 311821 , Reply# 5   1/13/2015 at 09:57 (3,362 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Looking forward to it arriving over here.Hopefully next month.

I have a feeling it's going to overtake my Miele S8 as my favourite Cylinder.


Post# 311844 , Reply# 6   1/13/2015 at 14:01 (3,362 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The thing to remember Marcus, is that this new E series is smaller on dust bag capacity than the S8. The E's closest rival will be the Miele S6 based on dust capacity, size and weight. I'll be keen to see what versions SEBO UK get in as well as general spec

Post# 311846 , Reply# 7   1/13/2015 at 14:22 (3,362 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes i know its capacity is a litre smaller but thats what i want, a compact cylinder. :)

Post# 312018 , Reply# 8   1/15/2015 at 07:10 (3,360 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I think, given the slight disappointment that some owners have already had with these "new" 700/800 watt vacs appearing on the market, that it makes sense to go for last remaining stock of the old. Dont get me wrong, whilst I think the SEBO E probably has a lot to offer, at least they are releasing 1200 watt models which Id be more interested in than the lower motor option.



Post# 312024 , Reply# 9   1/15/2015 at 08:59 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Are people disappointed with the 700 watt motors?
What about the Sebo eco D4 and Felix?


Post# 312033 , Reply# 10   1/15/2015 at 09:36 (3,360 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I got to use the 700w D4 a few months back and it's fantastic. It doesn't have the same suction as the 2200w model, but the suction decrease is not enough to hinder the performance of the machine. It still picks up just the same.

 

 


Post# 312034 , Reply# 11   1/15/2015 at 09:37 (3,360 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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From what I read, there's a real mix online of love/loathe with both Miele and SEBO vacuums with the lower motors. A few report that the highest suction has to be increased to get powerful suction power - but I personally don't know whether this is the owner just not realising how powerful both German brands are and their associated products.

It would stand to reason that there would be more pull with a smaller dust bag on board with either 1200 watts or 700/800 watts in either Miele's S6 or the SEBO E.


Post# 312045 , Reply# 12   1/15/2015 at 10:00 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes that is true. Bloody EU. The sooner we pull out the better as far as I'm concerned! I'm with Mr Garage on that one.

Post# 312052 , Reply# 13   1/15/2015 at 10:14 (3,360 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Bloody ignorant UKIP supporters. We're safer in the EU than we are out of it.

 

The forced lowering of vacuum wattages has been an incredibly welcome change to the market and the most interesting and significant shake up we've seen to the vacuum world in 20 years. Machines were getting more and more powerful but not getting better at actually cleaning. Increasing the motor wattage was a cheap way for lazy manufactuers to get around doing any real R&D and a cheap way of launching a "new" cleaner that was just a rehash of the previous model.

 

You have to remember, whilst the motor wattage has to be lower, the cleaning performance also has to meet a certain standard.

 

Manufacturers as well as customers just need some time to get used to it. Those of us who remember the introduction of energy ratings on washing machines will remember the highest rated machine in the first batch of energy labels was a C rated wash. Now they're pretty much all A rated.

 

Remember when Dyson first hit the market and everyone was making bagless vacs? There were some horrendous vacuums on the market - some real dust leakers and cloggers. But within a few years, this settled down too.

 

It's the same thing with the new regulations. The legislation is not at fault, the manufacturers and the public just need to get used to new ways of doing things.


Post# 312057 , Reply# 14   1/15/2015 at 10:24 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

The manufacturers do their own tests so they are not regulated. The EU is a waste if tax payers money. We can't control who comes into the country. I want control of my own borders! And we can increase our exports to China, Russia, India, Brazil. The EU has failed. Only Germany has gained from it. Look at southern Europe. Spain,Greece Italy even France are struggling. There will soon be another European recession. And you call me ignorant?

Post# 312072 , Reply# 15   1/15/2015 at 10:52 (3,360 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Been reading the Daily Mail much, Marcus? Do you have any idea how much money being in the EU brings IN, how much protection it gives us and how much trade we can do being part of it?

 

And if you're voting UKIP, yes, you're ignorant. They're a single policy party with no clue how to run a country. Immigration is NOT the biggest issue in our country right now. What's UKIP's policy on education, transport, employment, the NHS, taxes, welfare, diversity? THAT's what needs to be addressed - the issues that affect our daily lives! Under UKIP, everything would crumble because they don't have a manifesto on such things.

 

And anybody representing a party who has actively expressed that they want to fight AGAINST same sex marriage, doesn't even deserve to be part of a society in 2015. Get with the times!

 

If you want this country to turn into Nazi Germany part 2, be my guest, vote away.


Post# 312074 , Reply# 16   1/15/2015 at 11:02 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'm not a ukip voter actually but I agree with them about Europe and if we get a referendum I'll vote to pull out!
Do you seriously think they will stop trading with us if we pull out?
We will do just fine without all the bureaucratic red tape. Don't you think we are capable of making our own decisions by our own democratically voted government?
Thank goodness we didn't join the euro cause we would be in deep shit if we did. It doesn't work and it never will. A common market yes a federal Europe NEVER!!!!


Post# 312078 , Reply# 17   1/15/2015 at 11:10 (3,360 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I'm not a ukip voter actually

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Thank god!! :P

 

There's far bigger issues that need to be addressed, other than the EU. And on balance, whether you're pro-EU or against, I would advise against voting UKIP purely because they're a single policy party. Being in or out of the EU won't affect my daily life. I'd rather vote for a party that's addressing the daily struggles that people are facing, for example healthcare, state pensions, taxes, employment, housing, education, transport etc.


Post# 312081 , Reply# 18   1/15/2015 at 11:17 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Of course. I'm not a Ukip voter and I detest the Tories. I'm looking forward to the local candidate knocking on my door!

To be honest I'm at a loss as to who to vote for this time. Are the monster raving loonies still going? :-)


Post# 312082 , Reply# 19   1/15/2015 at 11:21 (3,360 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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LOL, you know, it's funny you should say that, I was talking about them just the other day!

 

I'm with you on the Tories, although this Tory government has been one of the better ones we've had. David Cameron has actually made some smart moves during his time.

 

Being from a Northern, working class background I'm tradionally a Labour supporter, but...Ed Milliband? Really? Is that the BEST they could do?


Post# 312085 , Reply# 20   1/15/2015 at 11:27 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes we have always been labour too. He is an intelligent man but he just doesn't have the stature sadly. Should have given the job to his brother.
I am interested in politics and this election will be interesting. My bet is on a labour SNP coalition.


Post# 312096 , Reply# 21   1/15/2015 at 12:05 (3,360 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I think the fact that these EU ratings are not being controlled is more of a worry than an actual advantage. The fact that they are not being moderated let alone not being brought into question means the likelihood that buyers are going to be ripped off.

Post# 312098 , Reply# 22   1/15/2015 at 12:10 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Exactly! They can say whatever they want unless another manufacturer takes them to court.

Post# 312108 , Reply# 23   1/15/2015 at 12:39 (3,360 days old) by Reflector ()        

I don't understand the 2.2kW motor thing in the EU, since in the US we peak out at 1.2-1.4kW max continous draw from the wall since our circuit breakers are set to trip past 12A sustained. I can't find any airflow or vacuum pressure ("Water lift") specs for any of the European Sebos but I can get them for the US ones, but they're all rated at the motor (Before any filters, bags or tubes). Actually I'm having a hard time finding flow and vacuum numbers for the European vacuums (Did a quick check on Miele and Sebo and I couldn't find anything except for the North American model specifications)

I don't think I have any problems from cleaning with 1.2-1.4kW max and I think a lot of vacuum owners in the US are in the same boat as me.

But 700W seems a bit draconian and restrictive. Even very high efficiency fans and motors have design limitations to them so you're going to run into the physical limitations at that rate.


Post# 312109 , Reply# 24   1/15/2015 at 12:43 (3,360 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I think you are correct.

Post# 312114 , Reply# 25   1/15/2015 at 14:21 (3,360 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Generallly water lift isn't used in Europe to provide vacuum cleaner suction data - just air watts but even then, buyers and owners are beginning to see past air watts as being a Dyson fad term.

Post# 312117 , Reply# 26   1/15/2015 at 14:33 (3,360 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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I've tried the new Eco 700 watt Felix Vogue in John Lewis I thought it was quite powerful slightly quieter for 700 watts. You could feel the airflow with the brush bar at the head. One thing I noticed is the lack of hot air coming out of the fabric post motor filter which I thought was better. I would replace my current 1300 watt motor Felix with one when the time comes.

Not tried any of the other Eco models yet. Be interested to see what the X series is like but that shouldn't be noticeable surely! It only dropped by 200 watts from 1300 to 1100 watts for the X4 and 50 watts for the X1.1 from 1150 to 1100 watts if that's correct! I can't see much difference if there wasn't any as such between the non Eco X1.1 and X4 so the new Eco models of 1100 watts should be fine!


Post# 312180 , Reply# 27   1/16/2015 at 10:55 (3,359 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Brochure for the E is now online at SEBO.De sadly in German for the moment. However user manual is in English if you click on the Union Jack flag symbol.




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Post# 312181 , Reply# 28   1/16/2015 at 10:57 (3,359 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Also has proper round connector on the T shape upholstery tool at the back by the crevice tool opening, proper flap added dust bag; a more conventional way of placement etc.

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Post# 312185 , Reply# 29   1/16/2015 at 11:22 (3,359 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I like the look of the upholstery nozzle and the fact you don't have to use it with the crevice tool. I will certainly be getting the powerhead model but hope it will be white for the UK market as the black Sebo vacs I've owned showed every little scratch.

Post# 312186 , Reply# 30   1/16/2015 at 11:31 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Will all the models be available in 700 and 1200 watts?


Post# 312187 , Reply# 31   1/16/2015 at 11:35 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Oh I see there's 2 models with 1200 watts and the power head model is 700 watts like the D4


Post# 312189 , Reply# 32   1/16/2015 at 11:53 (3,359 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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There are actually five models altogether. This pic is from SEBO Poland.

The baseline "red" E1 in Germany has a 700 watt motor and then the E3 Premium model.



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Post# 312190 , Reply# 33   1/16/2015 at 12:02 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Thanks Nar not sure which model I'm gonna go for yet but I will be getting one.

Post# 312191 , Reply# 34   1/16/2015 at 12:03 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Might go for the E3 and use the ET1 from my Felix.

Post# 312215 , Reply# 35   1/16/2015 at 16:24 (3,359 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Thanks for posting the brochure and info sebo_fan. The new E series does look a nice vacuum cleaner. the Airbelt looks deeper and slightly more flush to the machine looking at the pictures. I see the electric power wand, handle, hose picture doesn't show the little connector cable. Probably not changed.

Post# 312219 , Reply# 36   1/16/2015 at 16:34 (3,359 days old) by v6jme (Telford, Shropshire/Gdansk/Gdynia)        
E series instructions

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MANUAL_SEBO_AIRBELT_E_01_2015.pdf

The link might work, but the full instruction book is on the sebo.de site

I spoke to Stephanie at Sebo this week she is unsure what models we will get but thinks will be 1st week of February


Post# 312221 , Reply# 37   1/16/2015 at 16:37 (3,359 days old) by v6jme (Telford, Shropshire/Gdansk/Gdynia)        
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Link did not work : (

I bought my D4 eco premium in September from Sebo and it has stayed in in box since, plugged it in once thats it, i will get a E3 probably direct from Sebo when i can order one : )


Post# 312225 , Reply# 38   1/16/2015 at 17:15 (3,359 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Lets try and keep politics out of this forum please, but turbo500, don't be so damn disrespectful and judgemental. I am a UKIP voter, I don't read the daily mail and I do believe we should get out of the EU, as do over half of the population in the UK if a referendum were held today (look it up, Yougov pol)I am not anti European, my late father was German and he and nearly every German I have met have the same viewpoint. Anti-EU is not uncommon now. Come to peace with it.

Marcus, I have a Sebo Felix eco with the 700 watt motor and I have found that the pick up performance is identical to the standard felix. The new motor in the eco apparently has more blades. It is quitter and produces substantially less heat than the 1300 watt model. All in all it is a nice improvement. The litres per second rating on both the 1300 and 700 watt models are identical. Apparently Sebo had this motor for a long time before these EU regulation were even proposed, but people would be discouraged from buying a lower watt motor, simply because the numbers are smaller.


Post# 312228 , Reply# 39   1/16/2015 at 17:49 (3,359 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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"...Apparently Sebo had this motor for a long time before these EU regulation were even proposed, but people would be discouraged from buying a lower watt motor, simply because the numbers are smaller..."

Oh? That's interesting to know. As far as I know SEBO always had the 1300 watt model planned for their commercial model first (Dart) before the Felix was designed for the domestic market.

Secondly the X1.1 is the only model in the UK that features a lower motor - sales have been healthy for the X1.1, so I can't see that a lower motor would have been a problem in the Felix.


Post# 312262 , Reply# 40   1/17/2015 at 00:38 (3,358 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Thank you Oliveoil if the Felix 700 watt gives a similar performance to the 1300 watt Felix that is good news indeed! :)

Post# 312503 , Reply# 41   1/19/2015 at 09:31 (3,356 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Email from SEBO received this morning. The E3 Premium will be white in colour and they will be available in February 2015.

Post# 312546 , Reply# 42   1/19/2015 at 12:32 (3,356 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I'm glad about that. White is the best colour for hiding any scratches. Hope to get one in February, it depends on finances.

Post# 312961 , Reply# 43   1/22/2015 at 18:58 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Info from the user manual

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All of the E models have an automatic temperature control. If the machine is too hot the colour of the on/off button will change from blue to red. If the light is continuously red the power will be automatically reduced; if it flashes red it is because the vacuum has shut off due to over heating or a blockage. There's also a piston valve bag indicator.

Other interesting factor is that there are two filters as normal on this vacuum like the outgoing K series but SEBO offer a more conventional filter behind the bag like other cylinder vacs PLUS a new fleece hospital grade filter that seems to require to be unfolded from the back of the vacuum. Im not sure if the bag is an open texture or just a stitched fabric, but it is very intriguing in terms of how it is worded and shown in the user manual.


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Post# 319156 , Reply# 44   3/23/2015 at 18:46 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
The SEBO E AIRBELT has landed in the UK!

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I got a lovely surprise in the post this morning...



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Post# 319158 , Reply# 45   3/23/2015 at 18:55 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Lets just say for this new 700 watt E1 it is slightly quieter than the K1 Eco 700. Video soon.

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Post# 319160 , Reply# 46   3/23/2015 at 19:02 (3,293 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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A nice surprise for you then this morning sebo_fan. A nice size box the E series comes in too. Love the red colour and the grey Airbelt. Lovely compact cylinder from SEBO well done them. Loving it. Hope your pleased with it.

Mmm me thinks I might have to get an E series at some point!


Post# 319164 , Reply# 47   3/23/2015 at 20:13 (3,293 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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do you know when these will be available to buy

Post# 319184 , Reply# 48   3/23/2015 at 22:40 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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March /April time I shouldn't wonder. SEBO UK already have the E1 Airbelt 700 in.

Post# 319210 , Reply# 49   3/24/2015 at 07:17 (3,292 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Looks lush! :-)

Post# 319216 , Reply# 50   3/24/2015 at 10:26 (3,292 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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It is!


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