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wonder if it will still have this sticker on it like the ones on the DC54?

In my experience, plaster dust will kill most Dysons

Tom, on the subject of Rainbow, can you tell me if the Rainbow has any filters? Is there a filter up inside the machine, above the water tank at all?

The new Big Ball may not have any filters in it, but I'll bet there will be lots of service calls because people will will ignore the warning label and suck up plaster dust and the cyclones will frequently get clogged.

Four hundred and sixty quid?  

I think I'll keep my DC14. 

Have you used a Kenmore, Josh?

Marcus, I was just thinking I hadn't seen your name pop up in a while! Happy new year to you.

I couldn't disagree more with Josh. Not a problem? How else do you propose to clean under beds and furniture? Yes, you could use the tools, but that's incredibly time consuming.

Once again, it seems people are blinkered by their fandom of a particular machine to notice it's flaws. Just like Mr. D himself.

Perhaps Dyson could start including a narrow but wide straight suction tool for cleaning under beds and furniture? That would certainly help and be a very marketable feature. We all know Dyson love a gimmick.

Something like that, but maybe a bit narrower in depth would be a good solution.

I guess if someone really wanted to, they could get a cheaper, generic 32mm fit floortool from ebay for such things.

Rob, we have the same problem here! Our little long haired lady loves to sleep under the bed, so it needs vacuuming fairly regularly.

The joy of the Sebo and it's flat-to-the-floor vacuuming means I don't have to interrupt my vacuuming to clean under the bed. Heck, I don't even have to switch the machine off or change any settings.

are you even bothering reading my reply i told you you can use it for plaster dust and i will be absolutely fine it won't go through the cyclone and it wont go to the motor filter it would be absolutely fine.

Well that was rude!

But if you must know, I did read your replies and still thought it was rubbish. The official word from Dyson is clearly not use the Cinnetic to clean up plaster dust. Just because YOU say it's fine, doesn't mean it IS fine. It is always better to follow the instructions given by the manufacturer for the safety and longetivity of the machine and for your own safety.

Clean up plaster dust and void the guaruntee at your OWN RISK.

It seems to me that Dyson are obviously advising AGAINST doing so for a reason. Dyson aren't exactly known for making the flaws of their machines common knowledge, so for them to clearly label it on the side of the machine and not just as fine print in the user guide, it's quite obviously important.

Well, precisely. No vacuum is 100% perfect, it's all about finding what works best for you on balance. It seems some people around here forget that fact fairly frequently.

I'm not sure if any manufacturers would make it common knowledge - it wouldn't be clever if you're trying to sell something, would it? But in my experience, Dyson as a company tend to be quite blinkered to the flaws of their machine. Mr. D is very quick to slag off other brands and other styles of vacuum but isn't particularly willing to accept the criticism.

 turbo 500 i do not care.and personally i would not use it on plaster dust you can but i wouldn't i have done a little bit in the past but that doesn't affect it. you will need to cut me some slack as my brother just died a few months ago and i am still pretty upset.

AMEN!!

James Dyson may be a fantastic engineer, but he doesn't know anything about carpet care. There's a reason why a 1950's Hoover 119 will outclean a modern Dyson and do it with less power.

Having said that, Mr. D has admitted he never wanted to manufacture vacuums himself, but was laughed out the door when he tried to sell his design to the big companies. Lucky for him, I guess, he's made far more money this way.

Josh, whilst I'm very sorry that your brother died and believe me, I understand how difficult things must be for you, that does not make it acceptable to snap at people for no reason at all.

"i do not care.and personally i would not use it on plaster dust you can but i wouldn't "

Excuse me? You're the one boasting about how it's fine to clean plaster dust up with a Dyson and now you're saying you wouldn't? You're also contradicting yourself in the same post by saying you wouldn't do it, and then later saying it's ok to do it a little bit?

If you don't care, why are you even posting about it?

also i found a video of lady that just got one in she loves it. also it sounds very quiet

That works both ways, Josh. If you want people to be more accepting of the pro's, you have to be more willing to accept the criticism.

I've said this before, people form their opinions based on experience. I'm never going to be a Dyson fan. I don't like bagless vacuums full stop. But I didn't just wake up one day and decide I wasn't going to like them. I haven't just thumbed through an Argos catalogue and gone "nope, don't like that!". I've formed my opnion on YEARS of use. Heck, I've owned a heap of Dyson's myself.

The first time I ever saw a Dyson was very early on. My uncle worked for some electronics company and he got a DA001 for my aunt. I spent a whole afternoon at their house playing with it - I was only about 4 or 5. I then spent about 6 months trying to persuade my Mum to get one. I thought it was so cool. It wasn't until years down the line when they were becoming more mainstream that I started to notice the drawbacks and it wasn't until I'd owned a few myself and used them in my home that my dislike started.

I think they're very overpriced for what they are, I don't think they do a particularly outstanding job, I don't think they're very well made at all, I think the high price tag you pay is reflective of the R&D that's gone into refining the cyclone and not a reflection on the quality, performance or longevity of the machine, I firmly believe that the success of the company is a result of clever marketing gimmicks and not actual product and I don't think they're all that nice to use -difficult to get under furniture with, the tools are a faff having to completely stop what you're doing and disasemble half the machine just to use the hose, unhygenic filter washing (although not an issue on this machine) and I don't care what anyone says there is an inevitable dust cloud everytime you empty the thing.

Those aren't opinions that you just form overnight for no good reason. They're reflective of my experience of owning and using Dyson vacuums.

I know you're happy with your Dyson and that's great! You've found something that you believe is doing a great job and works best in your home and circumstances. That's what vacuum shopping is all about! But just because it works for you, doesn't mean it does for everyone. I think it's absolutely important to keep an open mind, and that works both ways. For example, I would have no problem recommending a Dyson to someone who wanted a bagless vacuum and indeed have done on many occaisions to friends and family where bagless has been the requirement. But take away the bagless aspect, I firmly believe there are better, cheaper bagged vacuums available.

You may get frustrated with people "not giving Dyson a chance", but I get frustrated with anybody having Dyson blinkers on and constantly focusing on them, talking about nothing else and refusing to accept the flaws. No vacuum is perfect.

That's true, I haven't yet used the latest model. The newest Dyson I've used is the DC41. But based on past experience, I'm not exactly entised to what to spend £400 on what has always previously been a cheap heap of plastic.

I'm sorry to say this and I'm sorry to offend anyone, but that is the biggest pile of horsesh!t I've read on here in a long time!!

You're classing the DC41mk2 as a current model, yes? That came out last year. Dyson have been on the market for 21 years by the time the DC41mk2 came out. Are you honestly saying that 21 years of mediocre machines followed by 4 months of 1 supposedly excellent cleaner automatically makes Dyson a good brand? You can't instantly turn a 21 year reputation around with 1 model in 4 months!

you're never wrong are.every dyson model has gotten better and better every new machine has better performance then the old one its calld innovation.but you only had experience with the old ones.

I've already said the latest Dyson I've had experience with is a DC41, which was still on sale as of August 2014. I found the DC41 had the same issues that I've lised above, and it was almost £400 to buy new! I shall repeat myself...Are you honestly saying that 21 years of mediocre machines followed by 4 months of 1 supposedly excellent cleaner automatically makes Dyson a good brand? You can't instantly turn a 21 year reputation around with 1 model in 4 months!

i've got better things to do than argue i'm gonna go now i think she go back to the dyson and leave it 

dyson on qvc 

looked in my mums new "Kays" catalogue that arrived today. I noticed that the "Cinetic Big Ball Animal" was more expensive in the catalogue as you would expect.

I was surprised when I saw it's been rated C on carpets.

James

i tend not to listen to the ratings anymore because of what people say as not done properly.i'm sure the ratings are wrong as a miele gets c for carpet as well and that's one of the best fot  carpes you can get.so probably this new dyson cleans the same even better than miele.

The ratings are all over the place. For example, a cheap, bagless Vax with no brushroll off function was awarded an A rating on hardfloors whereas a straight suction Henry was awarded a C rating. We all know that the Henry would be better on hard floors out of the two.

Brand new Dyson Dc65 vs 10 year old Kirby Sentria : 

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He who vacuums last wins

This is so amusing.

Somebody makes a video pitting a Dyson against an inferior machine and certain people start clucking like mad hens; "look at how much better it is!", "look at how much it picks up!"

Somebody makes a video pitting Dyson against a superior machine and suddenly it's a flawed test?  

Interesting info, Tayyab, thanks.

Dyson had to purposely lower the suction on the first lot of DC07's after complaints it was too difficult to push.

It may be true that the last vacuum to go will get SOME dirt left behind by the first vacuum, but in this video anyone with a normal amount of common sense would agree that in this case the Kirby definitely wins. Just look at the amount of salt left behind after Fifty passes of the DC65 vs only 6 passes of the Kirby.

I mean that is a huge amount of salt picked up by a 10 year old Kirby Sentria vs a brand new out of the box DC65 after 50 passes! Keep in mind those black filter pads in the Kirby dirt meter restrict the Kirby's airflow by 10 times the normal amount than when the bag is installed. Just imagine how much more salt would have been picked up if the Sentria had the bag installed.

So, based on this test, would you rather spend $600 on a brand new DC65 or $150 for a 10 year old Kirby Sentria? Which machine would leave you with a cleaner house? The answer is obvious isn't it?

even if the dyson won it's still flawed test.here is the way it should be done.