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Thread Number: 27689
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Kirby Avalir Unveiling Video...... |
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| Post# 309563 12/22/2014 at 09:15 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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| Post# 309564 , Reply# 1 12/22/2014 at 09:17 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Hi, | ||
| Post# 309571 , Reply# 2 12/22/2014 at 10:11 (3,406 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 309573 , Reply# 3 12/22/2014 at 10:20 (3,406 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309576 , Reply# 4 12/22/2014 at 10:33 (3,406 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
It is a BIG DEAL... | ||
| Post# 309577 , Reply# 5 12/22/2014 at 10:52 (3,406 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309578 , Reply# 6 12/22/2014 at 10:54 (3,406 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 309582 , Reply# 7 12/22/2014 at 11:43 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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| Post# 309583 , Reply# 8 12/22/2014 at 11:44 (3,406 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Chris: don't you understand what's going on here? I doubt it.
This event was not open to the general public. Everyone in attendance was either the owner of a Kirby Distributorship or a door to door Kirby salesman. The purpose of this convention was a pep rally to introduce the audience to the new machine and get them pumped up to go out and sell sell sell this new Kirby door to door as this is the only way Kirbys are sold.
George: The new Avalir will go on sale as soon as the current stock of Sentria II's has been sold out. I'm guessing that sales of the Avalir will start sometime around mid January to early February. But that's only an educated guess. No one knows for sure. | ||
| Post# 309584 , Reply# 9 12/22/2014 at 11:54 (3,406 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I fully understand what's going on. I still think it's ridiculously overindulgent and overblown. I recently went to a conference with work regarding a new client - we were screaming like teenagers at a One Direction concert? No! There was a round of applaws, yes, but at the end of the day, it's just work.
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| Post# 309586 , Reply# 10 12/22/2014 at 12:09 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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I'm... | ||
| Post# 309587 , Reply# 11 12/22/2014 at 12:14 (3,406 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309589 , Reply# 12 12/22/2014 at 12:20 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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| Post# 309597 , Reply# 13 12/22/2014 at 13:17 (3,406 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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James, | ||
| Post# 309600 , Reply# 15 12/22/2014 at 13:56 (3,406 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Yep... | ||
| Post# 309602 , Reply# 16 12/22/2014 at 14:20 (3,406 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 309606 , Reply# 17 12/22/2014 at 15:17 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Noooooo no no no no. Absolutely not. The Kirby is a great vacuum and under the right circumstances I'd highly recommend them. However I am realistic about it and I know that they're not perfect. I wouldn't ever buy one new. They're just not worth the retail price. They're excessive in every way - excessively large, excessively loud, excessively heavy, excessively fiddly, time consuming etc etc. Their whole launch event from this clip looks completely excessive, unnecessary and overindulgent. They're outdated design and sales technique does them no favours.
So whilst I do think they're great performers, I don't for second think that it's without its flaws. With that in mind, no vacuum is. It's all about finding what works best for you and a Kirby would just not be practical in our house. No 1 vacuum is perfect and will suit everyone, it's all about finding what is best for you. This is why I would always encourage someone to try a vacuum before buying one, where possible. Especially a Kirby as, these days, they're so different to anything else on the market, to go from say a Dyson or a Miele or a Sebo to a Kirby is a hell of an adjustment. | ||
| Post# 309609 , Reply# 18 12/22/2014 at 15:54 (3,405 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 309611 , Reply# 20 12/22/2014 at 16:20 (3,405 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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I disagree with you Chris that you think there great and I can't imagine you for a moment recommending them.
I've told you in the past that I don't think there excessively loud,large,expensive etc....for various reasons. The best part with the demo is people get to try before they buy and see how it handles...again in their home. Much better than some TV ad or shopping channel. Yes I know your going to say hard sale tactics etc but that is not the bulk of the time.
Beside the point of me posting the link to this video was for "US" people who like Kirby to get a better view of the up coming model. I've seen various threads on here when something new is coming out that I don't particularly like the look of or see various "issues"with it and don't feel the need to start picking at it. I just click and move on......
James
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| Post# 309612 , Reply# 21 12/22/2014 at 16:23 (3,405 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Love Kirby | ||
| Post# 309613 , Reply# 22 12/22/2014 at 16:29 (3,405 days old) by kirbyg6 (York) | ||
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| Post# 309617 , Reply# 23 12/22/2014 at 17:01 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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On the contrary, James, I'd sooner have a Kirby than anything bagless. It may seem I'm focusing on the negative, but that's only because a handful of people seem blind to the flaws of the cleaner.
Seems I need to say nothing about the sales tactics. It's well documented. And as far as I'm aware, there is no US/UK specification on this forum? Last I knew, it was a free for all open discussion and I'm equally as entitled to voice my criticsm of a Kirby as you are to be so insistent that it's the best, most perfect thing ever invented. | ||
| Post# 309618 , Reply# 24 12/22/2014 at 17:11 (3,405 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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lol | ||
| Post# 309623 , Reply# 25 12/22/2014 at 18:06 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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That's probably true, although I don't for a minute think that the Sebo is perfect. Of course it has it flaws! The topple over when using the short hose, the weak cable connection on the handle, the auto height adjustment can be temperamental (not a problem I've had on either of ours, but others have reported it here). But whilst it's not perfect, I've found it ticks other boxes that work for me, tipping the scales in its favour. There's pro's and con's to every single vacuum on sale.
I honestly believe that the Kirby is unrivalled for carpet cleaning, but severely lacking in terms of weight, easy of use, noise and price. I also noticed that the Sentria 2 tools felt very cheap and basic. Not what I'd expect from something I invested over £1000 in. Now, the D80 I got from Paul is a fab vacuum. It really does incorporate all the good things about a Kirby into a smaller, lighter machine. But again, you're stuck with faffy tools. Having to cart around a huge chunk of metal AND a tool caddy just to vacuum up is not something I ever fancy doing. It's 2014. The "housewife" role doesn't exist anymore and people don't have the same amount of time they used to for housework. The market now calls for cleaners that are good but quick. You can argue the toss all you want, but there's no denying that vacuuming a house with a Kirby takes a lot longer than most, if not all, other uprights. People these days want their house cleaned quickly so they can get on with other things - better things! Kirby need to get with it. | ||
| Post# 309629 , Reply# 26 12/22/2014 at 18:25 (3,405 days old) by Bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 309650 , Reply# 27 12/22/2014 at 19:46 (3,405 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Ive seen worse product launches - though it begs the question in relation to why they used "we will rock you," when changing the verses to reflect the Kirby and yet surely the chorus should have been "we love, we love Kirby!" Or is too obvious?
I like the presentation video and obviously the versatility that Kirby have added. Sadly for my tastes, Kirby uprights in a domestic home are just too big - same with the Miele S7. I've used Kirby uprights in schools and they're brilliant for a large open area, but in an average UK home, there's a reasoon to why owners hang onto their old Hoover Juniors - far smaller, still very capable, large dust capacity and cost effective. | ||
| Post# 309659 , Reply# 28 12/22/2014 at 21:17 (3,405 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.) | ||
 James, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for such an informative and lovely video! | ||
| Post# 309689 , Reply# 29 12/23/2014 at 04:17 (3,405 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Hi, Calem your welcome, It's great Kirby still continues on with it's high quality, performance and reliability why still evolving forward. It's also great how versatile it is compared to others on the market. It's good to stand out on the market and not blend in with the others as some would want it too. There's far more upsides than downsides. Their doing lots of things right when you think how long they've been going and they are still one of the biggest if not the biggest high end vacuum companies around.
James | ||
| Post# 309710 , Reply# 31 12/23/2014 at 13:41 (3,405 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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I can't agree with you Chris. I can clean my home as quick, if not quicker with my Sentria than when I used to clean it with my Hoover Windtunnel. The Kirby Sentria has better airflow and suction so I don't need to make as many passes as I did with the Windtunnel.
I can convert from upright to canister mode in about 30 seconds. I do all my above floor cleaning first, then quickly convert to upright mode for all my carpet. It's no Big Deal!!! | ||
| Post# 309747 , Reply# 32 12/23/2014 at 22:07 (3,404 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.) | ||
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Well James, you know what we all say about the truth....It shall set you free....Kirby free that is!!!
sptyks, I couldn't agree with you more! Why, Kirby attachments are so well designed, that even a child can master it....Pure Kirb-plicity at its best!
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| Post# 309748 , Reply# 33 12/23/2014 at 22:36 (3,404 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA) | ||
I think that if kirby wanted to totally have a machine for everyone that they should make the typical larger second gen, ( classic,tradition,heritage) G3 sized vacuums like they have been and also carry a non tech drive updated dual sanitronic sized vacuum that both have great air flow and carpet cleaning so larger homes could have a kirby and smaller home and homes with people that can't use a larger kirby could have a smaller version. Anyone else think that could be a beneficial move from kirby?
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| Post# 309892 , Reply# 35 12/25/2014 at 18:55 (3,402 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.) | ||
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I'm sorry, I thought we were all talking about these peoples' bread and butter, you know, their livelihood! I think if anybody with an inkling of common rational, or is that being too lucid, would believe they had better get excited about it and fast, or as the song goes, " Hit the road jack...don't you come back no more, no more, no more!" And they all go crying to the poor house together, as some should suppose, of course, I'm just postulating...but just maybe. | ||
| Post# 309932 , Reply# 36 12/25/2014 at 23:14 (3,402 days old) by vintagevaclover (Athens, GA) | ||
Hooverkid,
I have always thought that! They really should make a smaller 500 series remake. I think that something like that would do really well. As for the video, why not go a little bit over the top? They make some of the best vacuums available today AND a company only has one 100th anniversary. To me, it seems like a great excuse to have a swanky party/product release. Product releases don't always have to be speeches & slide shows. | ||
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