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Thread Number: 27681
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Sebo automatic X1 1997 |
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| Post# 309487 , Reply# 1 12/21/2014 at 14:47 (3,406 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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| Post# 309490 , Reply# 2 12/21/2014 at 15:10 (3,406 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
One of these style x1's was the first Sebo I ever got to use, bought by my friends parents when I was in school in 1998 (it replaced a Turbomaster). IIRC, these were around £200 new. Thus began a love affair that is still going. We have 2 X1.1's at home and my Mum has a Felix.
17 years later, that same X1 is still going. | ||
| Post# 309492 , Reply# 3 12/21/2014 at 15:40 (3,406 days old) by Dysonabsolute () | ||
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Thanks for the nice comments guys, one guess what I'm doing tonight lol. | ||
| Post# 309497 , Reply# 4 12/21/2014 at 16:41 (3,406 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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XD nice! Last year I wanted a Sebo, want a Kirby sentria now but. I really admire the design of the Sebo X range uprights, just dont like how the machine topples over when using the hose due to it coming out of the upper part of the machine. | ||
| Post# 309500 , Reply# 5 12/21/2014 at 17:04 (3,406 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
Nice SEBO X1 you have there Dysonabsolute hope you enjoy using it. Great pictures of it too, looks in very good condition too. Sounds like your enjoying using it, how you finding the auto height adjustment? Not to everyones taste.
I have a SEBO Felix but would love an X series at some point. You will probably find the synthetics are better over the paper ones. You'll find the Airbelt will be the C series no longer available in the UK and it used the same bags as the X series. | ||
| Post# 309501 , Reply# 6 12/21/2014 at 17:11 (3,406 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I know what you mean parwaz786, but SEBO do mention this in the instructions to advise how to use the vacuum to stop this happening.
I would say the onboard wand\hose is used for quick cleanups above and below floor by using the wand in one hand and the other hand held on the main handle of the vacuum to steady it. It also makes for a simple air path through the machine too reducing the length the dirt has to travel and reducing blockages or easy to remove them. Plus it makes for very quick release of the wand and hose too. | ||
| Post# 309502 , Reply# 7 12/21/2014 at 17:17 (3,406 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 309526 , Reply# 9 12/21/2014 at 19:51 (3,406 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Nice X1
Check EBAY UK for spares for the SEBO - they are usually tons of old wands in good condition.
The best bargain X1 I got was from Gumtree where the seller didnt know what they had! £30 with a broken belt which was a major bargain at the time. Same model as the white one you have and with a lowly 850 watt motor. Saying that, it was still very quiet and great to use. Still love my parents old darker grey model. They're great uprights in terms of being a great all rounder and designed to be fixed by the owner, not the manufacturer. If only all vacuums were like that. | ||
| Post# 309530 , Reply# 10 12/21/2014 at 21:32 (3,406 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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| Post# 309552 , Reply# 11 12/22/2014 at 06:14 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309554 , Reply# 13 12/22/2014 at 06:50 (3,405 days old) by Dysonabsolute () | ||
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Look at this on ebay for £19.99 buy it now. Shame the plastics are scratched otherwise I would of been tempted.
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| Post# 309556 , Reply# 15 12/22/2014 at 07:10 (3,405 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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BTW TOM, that looks nice. I guess you can use sand paper to get rid of scratches, then buff the plastic afterwards to make it shiny again? | ||
| Post# 309562 , Reply# 17 12/22/2014 at 08:58 (3,405 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Oh dear, that broke on my dc14 blitz it :( my auntie has it now but she doesn't care about that | ||
| Post# 309574 , Reply# 18 12/22/2014 at 10:22 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309579 , Reply# 20 12/22/2014 at 11:00 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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That's a fair point Tayyab, but what about this Sentria you want - have you actually used one? Matt brought his Sentria 2 down to my house the other week and whilst its a great machine, we have hard wearing, loop carpet and the Kirby stuck too it so much that it was too difficult to push, even with Techdrive on. How do you know you want a machine until you've tried it? It could be the exact opposite of what you want.
Just do yourself a favour, don't make any decisions or spend a load of money on anything until you've tried them. | ||
| Post# 309581 , Reply# 21 12/22/2014 at 11:25 (3,405 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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If the Sentria was hard to push with the Tech Drive on, then the floor nozzle was set too low to the carpet and not letting some air to enter from around the sides of the nozzle which is required to maintain proper airflow through the machine.
If the nozzle is set too low then it will suck right down to the carpet and will be very hard to push. This not only hinders cleaning performance but is hard on the Tech Drive mechanics as well. | ||
| Post# 309585 , Reply# 22 12/22/2014 at 11:59 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I grew up in a house with a Kirby, I do know how to use them. My in laws have an Ultimate G, which I've used at their house a fair few times and is fine on their carpet.
On one height setting, it was skimming the carpet and the next one down it was glued too it. There was no inbetween. It was totally useless on our carpets and just ripped the 2 shag rugs to bits. Can't say I'm in any rush to spend £1500 on a tank that rips my rugs up. | ||
| Post# 309588 , Reply# 23 12/22/2014 at 12:19 (3,405 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
I'm... I'm sure Tayyab is old enough to decide for himself if he wants a Sentria. If he doesn't know anyone who owns one so he can try it before buying one I'm sure he will just get one and keep it if he likes it and sell it on if he doesn't. No big deal... I've never found a carpet I can't use a Kirby on and if the rugs was that delicate or poorly made you could of just turned the roller off or used the hose attachments.. Again no biggy!
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| Post# 309591 , Reply# 24 12/22/2014 at 12:27 (3,405 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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One would have thought so, but if people insist on basing their opinions on what other people say and not their own experience, it really does beg the question.
I'm not for a minute saying that Tayyab shouldn't get what he wants, but it's s lot of money to splash out for something that might not be what he's expecting. Contrary to popular belief, not every vacuum is suitable for every home or indeed every person. I'd always recommend, regardless of the cleaner, to try before investing in something. | ||
| Post# 309594 , Reply# 25 12/22/2014 at 12:49 (3,405 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Yes the hose detaches from the wand for car cleaning. Just remove the hose from the wand when the wand is stored on the vacuum. Not sure if you can remove the hose from the wand when you have already removed the wand from the vacuum body. I'm sure someone can confirm this. I would attach the extension hose for car cleaning personally. I do on my Felix. When you return the hose into the wand if the vacuum is on it will suck it into the wand itself returning it to its storage position. I think the hose and wand I the X series is very clever design personally.
SEBO could change the top hose setup but it will make the air path complex which I found on my S7. This can open the vacuum up to protential blockages which may be hard to get at to remove. The SEBO setup makes easy maintainance and simpler air path for the dirt to travel through the vacuum, quicker air path to the bag. | ||
| Post# 309595 , Reply# 26 12/22/2014 at 12:54 (3,405 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Like James said above: "I've never found a carpet I can't use a Kirby on and if the rugs was that delicate or poorly made you could of just turned the roller off or used the hose attachments..."
Chris, You must have some very strange carpet if you couldn't get the Sentria II to work!
I think that Tayyab once mentioned on here that he has very plush carpet in his house and if so the Sentria II should work very well on those types of carpet. I know because my home has plush beige carpet throughout and my Sentria I does a fantastic job. I'm getting ready to shampoo my carpet for the third time and my Sentria does a fantastic job at that as well. | ||
| Post# 309712 , Reply# 29 12/23/2014 at 14:01 (3,404 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Hi Tayyab, You will not find a vacuum cleaner that is more powerful or cleans better than a Kirby Sentria. With a Sentria, you can have the option of having it glide effortlessly over your carpet with the Tech Drive engaged, or if you choose to leave Tech Drive disengaged, you will feel quite some resistance as you will be able to notice it sucking down to your carpet. You can try it both ways and see which one you prefer.
Also you will be able to shampoo your carpet if you choose to get your Kirby with the Shampoo attachment. The shampooer works very well on thicker plush carpets like yours. This post was last edited 12/23/2014 at 14:28 | ||
| Post# 309715 , Reply# 30 12/23/2014 at 14:38 (3,404 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Thank you! That has make me convinced to buy one. The fact that it is a dirty air vacuum is tempting due to it's power. Kind regards and Merry christmas all :) | ||
| Post# 309852 , Reply# 32 12/25/2014 at 07:16 (3,402 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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....where the heck were you? I even said at the time it was difficult to push with the tech drive on compared with other carpets and we DID try it on the rug, albeit briefly. It sealed to the stuck-down carpet a bit too much.
There are no "unfair" claims made at all. At no point have I said its a bad machine. The critique I've made are the same that I've made to all other Kirby vacuums and I'm not gonna sing its praises just because it was expensive. Just because it has a stupidly high price tag, doesn't make it better. I certainly thought the Sentria 2 was far nicer to use than any of the tech drive Kirby's, but it still suffers with the same drawbacks. Just because you were daft enough to buy one new at that price is no reason why I should feel the need to shower it with praise! I told you at the time I thought you were an idiot for buying it. | ||
| Post# 309872 , Reply# 35 12/25/2014 at 14:57 (3,402 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Maybe useless was the wrong word. "Difficult" would be more appropriate. I certainly noticed it the more I used it and had to reset the height. When lowered until the pitch changed, it wasn't quite enough but once more it was glued. Sure, it picked up, but it was damn difficult to use. Hardly surprising given that our carpet is glued down and I've yet to find any dirty fan cleaner that does well on it.
By the way, it's not wool. We did try the Sentria on the rug (the dark purple one by the sofa) very breifly but uprights never do well on it, so we kept it brief. Clearly not a memorable moment for you. Yeh, I'm absolutely wanting to borrow the in laws Kirby from time to time. As I said earlier, it's a great vac on carpet and it did pull grit out. I don't want one to use day to day though. Like you said, you barely use yours anymore, favouring your D4. Why? Because it's easier. I formed an opinion of the Sentria after trying it in my own setting. Sorry if you don't agree but, hey, tough. | ||
| Post# 309938 , Reply# 37 12/26/2014 at 05:25 (3,401 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 309996 , Reply# 38 12/26/2014 at 21:06 (3,401 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Mistruths... I'm sorry Chris, but I'm going to have to agree with Matt on this one. It is evident to me that Matt has caught you in several mistruths (lies) regarding the testing of his Sentria II at your home.
I have owned a Sentria I for 2 years now and have used it as my Daily Driver for those 2 years so I have a lot of experience with that flavor of Kirby. I have not only used my Sentria on the plush medium pile carpet in my own spacious 2 bedroom apartment, but I have also used it on the glued down commercial carpet in the hallway outside my apartment. I must say my machine performs almost exactly as Matt has described his Sentria II performed in your home.
Chris, I just don't find your arguments to Matt's correction points to be credible. Therefore I will have to say that the Kirby Sentria I & II are still the ultimate in home care systems performance, reliability and quality. | ||
| Post# 310016 , Reply# 39 12/27/2014 at 05:05 (3,400 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hey, I'm sure it works great for you, but it didn't here. That carpets are stuck down, hard wearing carpets. Use logic. The dirty fan design inevitably meant that the kirby would stick to it and that's exactly what it did. Matt didn't even use it whilst he was here and you being half way around the world in a totally different house with a totally different carpet have even less of a point to make.
At no point did I say that the Kirby is a bad cleaner. It's just totally unsuited to our home. It sticks to the carpets, it barely even fits down the side of our sofa and doesn't fit down the side of the TV stand or under the coffee table. I also find (and always have found) the tools to be complete farce. Just because something is american and expensive is no reason why I should think it's the best thing in the world. Your opinion of it being the best is all well and good, but it doesn't make it a fact and doesn't mean everyone else should believe what you do. It doesn't work well for day to day use in my house. End of. | ||
| Post# 310022 , Reply# 41 12/27/2014 at 07:27 (3,400 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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The main issue here for me was you trying to belittle Tayabb It's fine, honestly. Can we put this behind us now a we have the new year coming up with Christmas just two days ago? :) 👍🎅🎄 | ||
| Post# 310026 , Reply# 42 12/27/2014 at 08:12 (3,400 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Now who's talking rubbish. You were sat at the table whilst me and the other Matt tried the Sentria and it was HIM that commented on the tech drive not making that much difference.
Well, actually, you're wrong again. The main point was it seemed like Tayyab was making a judgement on a machine based on word of mouth and, as is pretty evident, opinion is subjective - what works for some people doesn't work for others so I thought it was important for Tayyab to try the machine out before spending a load of money on something he might not like. There's a reason why so many new Kirby's end of eBay - people buy the things being impressed by the demo, but soon realise how impractical and time consuming it is to use.
Seems like you're pretty bitter about having spent a fortune on something you barely use, I'm sure Tayyab doesn't want to feel like that.
And incidentally, not that it's ANY of your business, the Felix is absolutely still at my Mums, although it has been accompanied by a Vax Air Reach for upstairs, the eBay listing was ended early after Mum decided to keep the Felix for downstairs. But if you want to keep saying I'm wrong about a house you've never been to and 2 vacuums you've never seen, that's fine. You keep living in your head, hope you have fun. | ||
| Post# 310029 , Reply# 44 12/27/2014 at 10:10 (3,400 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Turbo500 & Sptyks
I certainly agree with these members & their experiences with Kirby vacuums. Of all the Kirby's I own...my Classic III, Heritage, Heritage II, G4 & G6, I have found exactly the same faults. Namely that on certain types of carpets, the Kirby will either glide or stick to the carpet, no in between, & on other types it has a tendency to "skip & bounce" on the carpet & not make much contact. And if memory serves correctly, isn't this the main reason the bottom plate & brushroll were recently redesigned?
My Mom had this same experience using Kirby, Royal & Electrolux cleaners in her housekeeping business, there were times she could only use the Electrolux due to having issues with the Kirby cleaning the carpets in the client's home. Yes, Kirby's are great vacuums & deep clean well, but they are clearly not for every home. Rob | ||
| Post# 310031 , Reply# 45 12/27/2014 at 10:33 (3,400 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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There we go, another challenging opinion
Thank you for your input Kirbylux77.
Tayyab it doesn't matter how heavy an upright is to you - however, having spent money on actual carpet that I saved up to buy and then fit in my parents home - there's a difference to buying a £1000 vacuum cleaner brand new versus twice that amount to having carpet purchased and fitting etc. I would suggest that you leave off having a Kirby in your home. Berber is a loop style pile - thus and has Matt has suggested, a delicate brush roll is required, or better, straight suction only. Continually pulling on loops will make a carpet go hairy! This has happened to me in one of the rooms where I contnually test new uprights on - proof that not ALL carpets always require a brush roll going over it. | ||
| Post# 310036 , Reply# 47 12/27/2014 at 11:23 (3,400 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Oh you're so full of it! Where's any evidence that anything in that bag came from my house OR that it's the same bag, hmm?
And YOU brought up the thing about my Mum's Sebo, not that it has anything to do with you OR this discussion. I've not said anywhere here that it was sold on eBay, that's what YOU said. And you were wrong. See link - there is the eBay listing, started on 09/11 and ended after 3 days UNSOLD because my mother changed her mind. Sorry to p!ss all over your little bonfire.
But whatever, you believe what you like and live in whatever reality you want, I honestly couldn't care less. It doesn't change the fact that I still found your overpriced chunk of metal awkward to use and I'm not gonna coo over it and think it's flawless just because you spent a stupid amount of money on it. That's your problem.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 310038 , Reply# 49 12/27/2014 at 11:56 (3,400 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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I brought up your mum's Sebo did I? Please see reply #2. | ||
| Post# 310039 , Reply# 50 12/27/2014 at 11:58 (3,400 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 310057 , Reply# 51 12/27/2014 at 16:40 (3,400 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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Tayyab, Don't let crazy Chris scare you away from owning the best upright cleaner on the market today. As I said in another thread, Chris has a mean streak against Kirby and no one will be able to convince him otherwise.
As you mentioned before - You have thick plush pile carpet in your home, which is exactly the type of carpet the Kirby Sentria excels on. I am sure that you would be quite happy with the performance of the Sentria in your home. | ||
| Post# 310062 , Reply# 52 12/27/2014 at 17:25 (3,400 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 430141 , Reply# 54 8/16/2020 at 06:24 (1,341 days old) by Ilovehoovers (England) | ||
Moving back to Sebo... | ||
| Post# 430154 , Reply# 55 8/16/2020 at 13:35 (1,341 days old) by RegularRett69 (San Clemente California, USA) | ||
nope | ||
Post# 430188 , Reply# 56 8/16/2020 at 22:45 (1,341 days old) by Durango159  (State College, PA) |
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Newer motor???
If they have a new motor, I might be interested to try..
I have yet to use a Sebo/ Windsor machine on carpet and be impressed with the results. All of the ones I've used have cleaned terribly from brand news on display in vac shops to being used in the field. The E series canister with Air Turbine nozzle was the only one I've been impressed with so far. The E series canister is very quiet but had quite a good amount of power. The turbo tool did ok, but the bristles need to be longer to touch the carpet better. If Sebo had a more powerful electric power nozzle that actually agitated carpet then it could be a winner. None of their uprights have impressed me at all yet. | ||
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