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Post# 309415 12/20/2014 at 22:48 (3,413 days old) by orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes when did Dyson change the way that they make their machines? My mothers DC33 is much different than my DC07. the DC33 feels cheap and flimsy. For example: the wheels on my moms DC33 keep popping off. When I was vacuuming the hardwood floor in our foyer, the right back wheel feel off. Then days later, the left wheel fell off. I was able to put the wheels back on but without he clamp because they were both lost. around the same time, a crack was developing on the plastic that covers the rod that connects the wheels. Soon that cracked open and the rod fell out. Not to mention this DC33 is only a year and a half years old. my dc07 is much different. I picked it from the trash with no cord and filled with random dirts and dusts. I repaired it and it works so much better than my moms newer Dyson. The plastic feels sturdier, and the build quality seems better. I think Dyson did change how they build their machines. I really don't know thought.

Post# 309430 , Reply# 1 12/21/2014 at 03:59 (3,413 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)
Checkrate/Likes I noticed the same thing too. Did you notice the tube is made of plastic vs the aluminium on your DC07? It's very bendy. My ex when we were together, mum has a DC33 and that's the first comment she made when I asked her what she thought of it, she said it feels cheap compared to the other Dysons she's had and doesn't really like it as much. I think she's the type that's upgraded her vacuum cleaner every few years. But her DC33 hasn't given her any issues at the moment and she vacuums quite frequently.

Post# 309431 , Reply# 2 12/21/2014 at 04:04 (3,413 days old) by citroenbx (england)
Checkrate/Likes I would say after the dc14

Post# 309433 , Reply# 3 12/21/2014 at 04:18 (3,413 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)
Checkrate/Likes *DC33* I do own a DC33, although I am trying to sell it at the moment. When I got it I got a DC14 along with it, and I do believe the structure is similar amongst the two. For example, to me the DC14 & DC33 both feel quite short, and also more compacted and central around the base. Whereas, the DC04 & DC07 feel more taller and thinner as such. I do believe that the quality has dropped for a few years now. Just take a look at the thickness of the plastic used on a DC01 bin handle and compare it to the modern variant. Also as blakaeg pointed out, the DC33 wand is plastic as compared to the metal of previous model's.

Post# 309436 , Reply# 4 12/21/2014 at 05:27 (3,413 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes My neighbour has a DC33 from new almost two years ago. They had the following issues: Motor burn out after a year Cable connection failure Loss of suction The red part of the wand (where you out the tools on) has come off, they got a new wand under warranty I think now. The DC14 was pretty good quality TBH. Not too solid and not too flexible. That's why the dc14's rarely have any complaints being made about them for being cheap, and they rarely have any plastic snapped on the . And when they do, it is the odd body being cracked or a split hose, etc. From the DC19, they went cheaper. They used the iron titanium type of plastic which was flexible and stopped using metal since the DC33. The DC19 T2 also has a plastic wand. PS How much r u selling the DC33 for, Jacob? :)

Post# 309440 , Reply# 5 12/21/2014 at 05:33 (3,413 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes 1 The build quality of Dyson upright cleaners has always been dire. No manufacturer ever seemed to use plastic which was quite as hard and as thin, and the sole plate of the DC01 -for the price of the cleaner- was simply a joke. The DC04 was a lot better, and the DC07 an improvment again -never more so when Dyson switched from used as much shiny hard plastic to the dull softer, slightly thicker plastic parts for the handle and such places. But it was still nothing like what we'd become accustomed to in the UK and Europe at least, in the days before Dyson. The DC14 was possibly the best build of them all, though maybe not the best cleaner all round. I stopped liking Dyson uprights when the high-pitched noise of the new motors offended my ears.

Post# 309446 , Reply# 6 12/21/2014 at 07:54 (3,413 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)
Checkrate/Likes *DC33* Well, regarding the price, I've given it a jolly good clean, after a stripdown, as well as replaced either 3 or 4 seals on the body of the machine, and replaced the inspection pipe as it had a crack in it. Bearing in mind the DC33 still retails for around £220, I'm aiming for around £85 on eBay. It didn't sell for £95 so am trying £85, and I'll have a best offer option. I'm hoping someone will buy it. I last sold a DC03 reconditioned on eBay for £50, so I'm hopeful for a result. I'm hoping so as it is a more modern Dyson.

Post# 309447 , Reply# 7 12/21/2014 at 07:57 (3,413 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes Cool :) hope you sell it for a gd price that you want PS can you make a Vax power 1 thread? I am getting one soon and wanna know more about it with pics :) does it have a beater bar? Thanks :) PS if you dont wanna make a thread you dont have to, up to you :) Cheers

Post# 309459 , Reply# 8 12/21/2014 at 08:44 (3,413 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)
Checkrate/Likes Ah Well, the Vax Power Pet's 1 is no more at the moment, I donated it, as well as a washing machine to a Church Organization that Joe's - Ultimatevacman - uncle works for which helps people who are just starting up, with no money, and helps them get on track.

Post# 309460 , Reply# 9 12/21/2014 at 09:32 (3,412 days old) by Parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes Aw that's very nice of you :) very good

Post# 309461 , Reply# 10 12/21/2014 at 09:44 (3,412 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)
Checkrate/Likes Gee, I've never had any of those problems with this little D50. It's now 50 years old and still runs like the day it was un-boxed in 1965.

Post# 309494 , Reply# 11 12/21/2014 at 16:00 (3,412 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)
Checkrate/Likes Though do you guys think that the DC40 and DC41 are less prone to breaking? Ok the plastic is thin and doesn't feel as good as the older machines but as the newer machines have softer polypropylene handles. We should see an end to snapped Dyson handles. If their newer ones are constructed as well as they say then I wonder if the current ones are little prone to becoming brittle and breaking. Maybe it's too soon to say? I'd appreciate your opinions. Thanks guys.

Post# 309496 , Reply# 12 12/21/2014 at 16:38 (3,412 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes I agree Blakaeg. I say the DC14 is a bi t of both. A solid machine that is very sturdy like the older machines, but the plastic has a slight flex feature to it so it doesnt snap

Post# 309503 , Reply# 13 12/21/2014 at 17:31 (3,412 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)
Checkrate/Likes Stan, no offense, but you can't really compare the build quality of a Dyson to something that was made in 1965. Everything was made better back then, even Hoover & Eureka cleaners were much better quality than they are now. Had Dyson started producing these cleaners in 1965 you would have a valid point. It would be much more fair to compare a Dyson to the build quality of modern cleaners made since the year 2000. And I personally think that, although I dislike the Dyson's build quality & think they could be better, they are probably the best of the bagless upright cleaners made today. Rob

Post# 309505 , Reply# 14 12/21/2014 at 17:43 (3,412 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes 1 kirbylux77 you make an interesting point, because here in the UK, when the DC01 went on sale, the build quality was just dreadful compared to the cleaners of that era. So in that respect, I have always considered Dyson to be behind on the quality stakes. If nothing else it proved that a product doesn't have to be all that well built for it to sell, so long as it is marketed well.

Post# 309512 , Reply# 15 12/21/2014 at 18:33 (3,412 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)
Checkrate/Likes 1 Ok Rob and Benny, you guys win. I was just trying to interject a bit of humor into the thread. I didn't think anyone would take me seriously. Sorry. -Stan

Post# 309513 , Reply# 16 12/21/2014 at 18:37 (3,412 days old) by Dysonabsolute ()
Checkrate/Likes I love the dc01 but when I was a kid I saw so many with them pointless covers over the top of the wheels broken off. I think people may of thought they were what you pressed to release the head maybe?

Post# 309516 , Reply# 17 12/21/2014 at 18:54 (3,412 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes sptyks, I am sure you were, but I have to confess I didn't even read your message. I must have missed it. I was replying to the message immedatly before mine.

Post# 309517 , Reply# 18 12/21/2014 at 18:57 (3,412 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes Dysonabsolute, one reason why those covers broke off was because they could get caught around fixtures and furniture. The plastic used was liable to get very brittle, particulalry when the cleaner was kept in sunlight. So, it didnt take much to knock them off. I too thought they were pointless.

Post# 309518 , Reply# 19 12/21/2014 at 19:01 (3,412 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
*This post has been removed by the member who posted it.* This post was last edited 12/21/2014 at 19:20

Post# 309519 , Reply# 20 12/21/2014 at 19:08 (3,412 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes dys0nb0y, Dyson were showing videos of their cleaners being tested in the factory many years ago. Before all of the shopping channels we have now, when digital TV was first avaliable about 15 years ago a new channel called Shop! was on air, and they had a bit of a thing going with Dyson - James Dyson himself used to go on to the TV channel and up-sell his cleaners. They used videos of the testing at the factory as part of his sales material. Also the zorb DC04 was very much in fashion then too - I can recall seeing James Dyson talking about that. Also, footage of the testing has been used in various Dyson adverts over the years. Considering the reputation they gained for making low quality goods (albiet goods which continued to sell oh so well), I thought it was just a little misguided to be talki ng about durability in the way that the adverts did.

Post# 309531 , Reply# 21 12/21/2014 at 21:46 (3,412 days old) by Orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *dys0nb0y,* I didn't actually see your post but based upon what vintagerepairer wrote, Im assuming you where defending Dyson. I get that you love Dyson but part of being a vacuum collector is understanding that your favorite brand, or any brand for that matter, isn't perfect and will probably always have little flaws. Dyson has some flaws in their brand. I love Oreck and I know that Oreck has some major and minor flaws. I also understand that people might have different views on my favorite brand. I hope you understand what I'm saying, I'm not trying to be rude I just wanted to say that you shouldn't have to feel like you have to defend Dyson all the time :)

Post# 309550 , Reply# 22 12/22/2014 at 03:55 (3,412 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes There was no Dyson defending or bashing - simply a mention of the videos which Dyson use to advertise their cleaners which show them being tested in the factory. Dysonboy thought this was a new concept and I pointed out that it wasn't. I have no idea why the message is gone though. You can't really base a reply on what you think was said though.

Post# 309551 , Reply# 23 12/22/2014 at 05:34 (3,412 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes I personally think Old Dysons are pretty fragile and used to break if got too much sunlight asked.the reason they changed it to the darker colour as it wouldn't get sunrays damage. but when I did have a DC 33 it felt quite fragile nothing like the DC 41.the dc33 felt like it would snap. And is anyone else notice only Dyson recently in the last two years has started showing videos of them surviving tests being dropped and hit cause they can actually survive that not what the old ones are probably disintegrate:). Is why I really really don't like old dysons my garage of got loads of damage bodies and Crakston just need lots repairs I don't see as many DC14 with broken bodies like the old dysons. Dysons learn from the mistake and finally make machines that can survive on last would happily take a hammer to my Dyson DC 55 and know it will be completely fine In fact after Christmas I will make a video of hitting it in lots of different places hard with a hammer and dropping it. But I wouldn't dare do that with any other of my vacuums. I know a Dyson wouldn't outlast A Kirby but I know will outlast a lot I'm not a machine to get today. people don't like Dyson because of their old experiences I don't blame you I really don't like them but New one you can get today are completely completely different to the old ones are just so much better than I used to be finally made machines that can clean and outlast. So thanks guys sorry if there is any miss spelling.

Post# 309557 , Reply# 24 12/22/2014 at 07:13 (3,412 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes Wow. Very well explained Josh! Couldn't have out it better myself. You are right. The newer ones are better in most ways. My DC25 feels more capable of being dropped down the stairs,mor even concrete stairs compared to a DC04

Post# 309559 , Reply# 25 12/22/2014 at 07:14 (3,412 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes PS if you want an older Dyson, I suggest the very last DC07 models from post 2005 and DC14 models too. My DC07 origin is from 2005 and took a good beating. It's been in our family for 11 months now with no problems

Post# 309567 , Reply# 26 12/22/2014 at 09:42 (3,411 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)
Checkrate/Likes The DC17 Absolute is my favorite Dyson as far as Durability. They are almost bullet-proof.

Post# 309570 , Reply# 27 12/22/2014 at 10:07 (3,411 days old) by parwaz786 ( )
Checkrate/Likes Wish they were sold here. Are the bristles stiffer than DC40 bristles? Do they stick to the floor as good as a DC07 or DC41? Thanks

Post# 309620 , Reply# 28 12/22/2014 at 17:42 (3,411 days old) by Orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes *I think...* I think that the newer dysons are worse than the old ones.

Post# 309621 , Reply# 29 12/22/2014 at 17:46 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes Have you had experience with the Dyson DC 65 or DC 40 or anything like that Or a dc39 if not you can't really comment on the new ones

Post# 309624 , Reply# 30 12/22/2014 at 18:11 (3,411 days old) by Orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *oh have I!* I used my cousin's DC40 and the thing practically fell apart when I was using it. The part that holds the handle to the base fell apart when I was using it! Then the part that connects the cleaning head to the dirt bin disconnected and spewed dirt everywhere! My cousin got sick of all its issues with it and simply threw it out and bought a hoover instead.

Post# 309625 , Reply# 31 12/22/2014 at 18:16 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes 1 Well that's only one. I personally don't like the USA DC 40. You should've said I've never ever ever heard in the whole life problems you've pointed out. You can't base one experience and all the others.

Post# 309627 , Reply# 32 12/22/2014 at 18:19 (3,411 days old) by Orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes 2 *I am...* I am simply conparing that experience to the experiences I had with older dysons such as my aunt's dc07 animal and my dc07 full gear. The quality of the dc07's is much bettet than that of a dc40

Post# 309628 , Reply# 33 12/22/2014 at 18:25 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes I can show you a picture of hundreds of damage dc07 and none of the DC40s but a few were a few common problems with them but If you want to believe that that's up to you.

Post# 309630 , Reply# 34 12/22/2014 at 18:29 (3,411 days old) by Orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes Here in the us at least, the DC40 and DC07 are completely different. The DC40 here is complete rubbish. The DC07 here is much better. I would sorta compare this to Oreck in the U.K. And other countries.

Post# 309632 , Reply# 35 12/22/2014 at 18:31 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes And I know some of you might feel like the new Dysons feel like crap and flex and compare to what Dyson plastic used to be these things like bullet-proof not really bullet-proof but is a expression

Post# 309635 , Reply# 36 12/22/2014 at 18:44 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
Checkrate/Likes Might be rubbish to you but lots and lots of people like not may on this site but I know a lot of people that have it and have nothing but joy from it. . This post was last edited 12/22/2014 at 19:24

Post# 309636 , Reply# 37 12/22/2014 at 18:47 (3,411 days old) by orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *I wasn't...* I wasn't calling your favorite brand rubbish I was calling the model rubbish. I personally love dyson and my DC07

Post# 309637 , Reply# 38 12/22/2014 at 18:48 (3,411 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)
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Post# 309639 , Reply# 39 12/22/2014 at 18:57 (3,411 days old) by orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes I wouldn't believe that until i were to use one.

Post# 309641 , Reply# 40 12/22/2014 at 19:12 (3,411 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)
Checkrate/Likes 1 "...Okay then but the DC 65 is so much better than dc40..." In your opinion though. The world doesn't log onto this website, let alone the majority of consumers. You can't speak for everyone. Be aware of that. Tyler/Orecklover has been clear from the start, he hasn't rubbished your "favourite brand" WITHOUT adding his experience.

Post# 309642 , Reply# 41 12/22/2014 at 19:16 (3,411 days old) by orecklover ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *Yes!* sebo_fan, thank you for making that point!

Post# 309643 , Reply# 42 12/22/2014 at 19:18 (3,411 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)
Checkrate/Likes 2 Trying to be fair on this forum at times can be hard. But then it is Christmas!! View Full Size

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