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Thread Number: 27295
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
BREAKING NEWS: Dyson gives Shark a you-know-what! |
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| Post# 306008 11/13/2014 at 00:07 (3,445 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
This just in: Dyson has started a limited-time offer on their Dyson DC65 Multi Floor Ball vacuum. It costs $449 and comes with the usual tools, plus a Flat-out tool and a multi-angle brush!
Want to know something crazy? Last month, Euro-Pro announced the Shark Rotator Powered Lift-Away, which has more suction (at the hose) and cleans carpets better than the DC65! Want to know something even crazier? Dyson is fighting back against Shark, proving that their DC65 is a better machine all around! Here's what's being boasted about in the commercial down below: - 100% crevice pickup on hard floors - Strongest suction at the cleaner head - Instant release wand allows for easy above floor cleaning - Ball technology turns a full 90 degrees - Wider head with edge cleaning on both sides - 5 year warranty; built to last 10 years Now compare the Shark Rotator Powered Lift-Away on the same points listed above: - Leaves behind dust on hard floors - Weaker suction at the head - Above floor cleaning requires carrying the heavy vacuum around - "Advanced swivel steering" doesn't turn as well - Narrower head doesn't have edge cleaning - 7 year warranty; but I'm not sure about long-term durability Well, it looks like Dyson was getting tired of being bested by Shark! I bet this will get more people to buy Dysons. Video down below! CLICK HERE TO GO TO niclonnic's LINK | ||
| Post# 306019 , Reply# 1 11/13/2014 at 09:48 (3,444 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
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| Post# 306020 , Reply# 2 11/13/2014 at 09:50 (3,444 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
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| Post# 306033 , Reply# 5 11/13/2014 at 11:41 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Well thank you Dan. Nice to see someone agreeing with me on here. Makes a change. :-))) I do like the innovations of the Shark powered lift away. Its good value for money. | ||
| Post# 306034 , Reply# 6 11/13/2014 at 11:56 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Dan did you get the Rainbow? And if you did how are you getting on with it and how does it compare to your Riccar? | ||
| Post# 306035 , Reply# 7 11/13/2014 at 12:04 (3,444 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306037 , Reply# 8 11/13/2014 at 12:08 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Haha done Nar. I know Roger is very impressed with it. Let us know your opinion :-) | ||
| Post# 306045 , Reply# 9 11/13/2014 at 13:31 (3,444 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Awesome! May we see a review on it with pics, please? :) Thanks | ||
| Post# 306046 , Reply# 10 11/13/2014 at 13:33 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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That should say well done Nar. Bloody phine! | ||
| Post# 306047 , Reply# 11 11/13/2014 at 13:34 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Phone!!!! Arrrrrgh! | ||
| Post# 306051 , Reply# 12 11/13/2014 at 14:40 (3,444 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Usually I add the password to Vax's sale from the email I get a lot of the time to the www.moneysavingexpert.com... website or other forums like this one. This time I took my own advice and bagged the Vax Air upright at £169-99 compared to the full price from Vax's factory sale website.
Oh my god!! The whole home could be vacuumed in less than the time it takes up one battery of 25 minute usage. It has a longer run time than my MR Supervac but I still like that one because of its removable dust buster. The photo shows what the Vax has picked up after a day of not vacuuming around my whole home. I was not surprised to find a fair amount of dust being collected up though - ALL of it seems to be top carpet wool. Bristles are soft though on this model, although I like the fact that Vax are now offering cost optional hard floor brush bars OR a delicate brush bar as cost options, even softer than the one Vax supply as standard. My neighbour also has the Athlet. I like the Athlet's quietness and modern look but the Vax is far more nimble and even she agreed when we swapped over. Oli referred to the Vax having poor suction - yes it does through the hose and the Bosch has more power as well as it being super quiet compared to the Vax's honk - but the Air Cordless certainly doesn't suffer on carpets or hard floors in my experience. I think it is down to the fact that the air has 3 windtunnel dust channels built into the floor head, so it picks up a heck of a lot more dust in one cleaning session than traditional means. Also Vax have redesigned the sole plate somewhat and doesn't suck down hard on hard floors when the brush bar is turned off. It picks up well from the floor head when the brush roll is switched ON or off regardless and I like the fact that the sole plate comes away via two locks on the underside even if Vax haven't retained the more accessible top catches from the original Vax Mach Air. The Vax Air Cordless though is just so simple to use and takes no effort at all to turn the handle around corners. I am happier with the fact that this one locks up properly without the slightest knock to it compared to the Air3 models I tried at Currys. The only downside to the Vax for me is that despite the hose on board being there and setting up is a heck of a lot easier than the shoulder design with the Bosch, is that the hose is a unique part - the old Vax extension hose from the Vax Mach Air corded vacuums will not fit; the collar needs at least 2 cm's of plastic sawn off if it will ever fit the Vax Air Cordless. You also get a separate soft dusting brush but there is no where to put it on the Vax, compromising on whether you keep the 2 in 1 tool or the dusting brush dependent on choice. There are a few other things I like and don't like but I'm saving them for my online review.
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| Post# 306053 , Reply# 13 11/13/2014 at 14:47 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Wow that is quite a bit of dust its picked up. Very impressive for a cordless machine! | ||
| Post# 306054 , Reply# 14 11/13/2014 at 14:48 (3,444 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Additionally, the Vax Air Cordless has one main filter - the HEPA ring and as you can see there is a little dust on it already. However, it is the only filter on the machine aside from the typical cone shroud filter. The ring seems to have a magnet built in that clings to the base of the motor.
The plastic quality is okay - no where near the Bosch Athlet but I knew that beforehand.
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| Post# 306058 , Reply# 15 11/13/2014 at 14:56 (3,444 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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For £169 it seems to be very good value for your money. I think I shall pop into Currys tomorrow to view it. | ||
| Post# 306094 , Reply# 16 11/13/2014 at 19:13 (3,444 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Back on track...
Comparing the Dyson and the Shark is best described as an analogy:
- The Dyson may be an iPhone 6 Plus. It's from a company known for high-priced, premium products, with a loyal fan base - The Shark is a Samsung Galaxy Note 4. It's from a company known for having features superior to their bitterest rival In my mind, I believe that the Dyson DC65 is superior to the Shark Rotator Powered Lift-Away. It has more suction, better cyclone technology (Dyson has 13 cyclones as opposed to 1 on the Shark), a wider cleaner head and easier steering, plus better customer service. Sebo_fan, it's good to hear that you're enjoying your Vax Air Cordless! I've seen the US equivalent, the Hoover Air Cordless at Fred Meyer. The Air Cordless is dual-cyclonic, which is the reason why the filter has already gotten dirty. In addition, there is no HEPA filter. Did you notice that the motor is located above the dirt cup? That's an interesting design. I guess it was designed like that to keep the weight balanced on the vacuum itself. | ||
| Post# 306140 , Reply# 17 11/14/2014 at 07:39 (3,443 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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But with the Shark Powered lift away costing around $250 and the Dyson DC65 Animal costing around $600 you can see why Dyson are a bit concerned :-) | ||
| Post# 306155 , Reply# 19 11/14/2014 at 12:28 (3,443 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306158 , Reply# 20 11/14/2014 at 12:41 (3,443 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Being as I've seen the Vax for £250 and higher it should have a HEPA filter as standard. Could it be because it would lower the airflow? | ||
| Post# 306161 , Reply# 21 11/14/2014 at 13:14 (3,443 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Well, personally, I would choose the Shark. I like the fact that the Shark has the lift-away feature, & the same powerhead setup a canister vacuum has, so you can reach under hard to clean places & get them clean. Plus, one other thing for all that criticize Shark....has it ever occured to you guys that the Shark is HALF THE PRICE. Even if the quality isn't quite as good as a Dyson, & it is slightly worse at cleaning, you're paying 1/2 the cost of a Dyson. As that little old saying goes, "You get what you pay for".
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| Post# 306162 , Reply# 22 11/14/2014 at 13:18 (3,443 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Indeed maybe Dyson will now have to offer more realistic prices. :-) | ||
| Post# 306175 , Reply# 24 11/14/2014 at 16:49 (3,443 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 306203 , Reply# 25 11/14/2014 at 23:17 (3,443 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Marcusprit, yes, Shark vacuums appear to be better values compared to Dyson.
Ralph123, I did check out the November 2014 issue of Consumer Reports at my local library. However, the Shark Rotator Professional Lift-Away, NV501 (NOT the new Powered version) was evaluated at the time. Just thought you should know :) Sebo_fan, much of the information I learned about the Vax/Hoover Air Cordless was from a video on YouTube. The uploader, FantomVacuumFan (who is on Vacuumland under the same name), made a video where he compared the Hoover Air Cordless to the original Windtunnel Air and demonstrated it. It's lengthy, at nearly half an hour long! The guy points out all of the changes and drawbacks of the Cordless machine. Rob, I respect your opinion. The new Shark offers the best of both worlds with the Powered Lift-Away feature and canister caddy. I consider the Shark a jack of all trades. Scott, yes, I have downloaded the Shark Rotator Pro Lift-Away manual from the Shark website, and it appears that the brush roll can't be removed, so removing tangles can be difficult. Plus, with the brush ends melting as you've said above, you'll probably have to buy a brand new cleaner head, which costs $69.95 on www.sharkclean.com/rotator/profes... Super-sweeper, this makes me wonder why some vacuums are so overpriced! The Hoover Windtunnel T-Series UH70120 could do the same job at $100. However, these cheaper vacuums generally have less features, such as shorter hoses and rubber belts that stretch and break. Here is said video of the Hoover Air Cordless. | ||
| Post# 306217 , Reply# 26 11/15/2014 at 06:57 (3,442 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306261 , Reply# 27 11/15/2014 at 18:39 (3,442 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Roger who? | ||
| Post# 306265 , Reply# 28 11/15/2014 at 18:54 (3,442 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas) | ||
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Roger is one of our U.K. members. His videos are of exceptional quality and are very entertaining. Scott CLICK HERE TO GO TO singingrainbow's LINK | ||
| Post# 306266 , Reply# 29 11/15/2014 at 19:06 (3,442 days old) by Marks_here (_._) | ||
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| Post# 306267 , Reply# 30 11/15/2014 at 19:30 (3,442 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306270 , Reply# 31 11/15/2014 at 19:38 (3,442 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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No mater what they claim. I'm not convinced to by either one. Both are way over rated. I will gladly stick with my Kirby. | ||
| Post# 306272 , Reply# 32 11/15/2014 at 19:43 (3,442 days old) by Marks_here (_._) | ||
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| Post# 306287 , Reply# 33 11/15/2014 at 22:00 (3,442 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia) | ||
Wibbly Wobbly
And sit down and discuss how nice it is living in wibbly wobbly land....
But little do they know - Spencer the Spider...fancies roger, and comes up behind him and gobbles him up for lunch! But there is no need to worry - because Spencer the Spider doesn't really like the taste of Roger, so he spits him out! And they all lived happily ever after for 3.75 | ||
| Post# 306299 , Reply# 34 11/16/2014 at 00:36 (3,442 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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That was a good video! | ||
| Post# 306306 , Reply# 36 11/16/2014 at 02:23 (3,442 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 306319 , Reply# 37 11/16/2014 at 06:06 (3,441 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'm free! Hahahaha love it :-) | ||
| Post# 306322 , Reply# 38 11/16/2014 at 09:25 (3,441 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306323 , Reply# 39 11/16/2014 at 09:28 (3,441 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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There is no convincing here - but rather just another way to vacuum.
After all, look at robotic vacuums - how many members on here have them? I don't think many UK members admit to having any of them, let alone a few U.S members. Id adore cleaning with my cordless dust buster for example. Would I go back to a dust pan and brush? To clean up crumbs behind food jars on my main work top? Why would I want to? Or cleaning behind delicate china with a long crevice tool on a dust buster - heck of a lot safer than trying to wedge a cleaning brush between them, only to find dust just gets moved around. | ||
| Post# 306335 , Reply# 40 11/16/2014 at 12:20 (3,441 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Super-sweeper, yes, that is true. With most cordless vacuums, you have to plug the charger directly into the vacuum or place the vacuum onto a charging cradle. But with the Vax/Hoover Air Cordless, it comes with two batteries which provide up to 50 minutes of runtime (25 minutes per battery). Both batteries are removable and are placed onto a separate charger to be charged.
Sebo_fan, i agree with you. I own a Black & Decker 20V dust buster with a removable battery. That thing is LOUD! However, it works well for quick cleanups. I've used it to clean up after my shedding Black Lab, Lady. A couple months ago, she was shedding like crazy! All I had to do was whip out that vacuum and suck up the tufts of fur on the carpet. Here is a link to said dust buster on Amazon.com. CLICK HERE TO GO TO niclonnic's LINK | ||
| Post# 306338 , Reply# 41 11/16/2014 at 12:46 (3,441 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306357 , Reply# 42 11/16/2014 at 15:17 (3,441 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Morphy Richards? | ||
| Post# 306358 , Reply# 43 11/16/2014 at 15:33 (3,441 days old) by Marks_here (_._) | ||
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| Post# 306402 , Reply# 44 11/16/2014 at 20:48 (3,441 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The MR SuperVac is sold as Hoover Presto in the U.S - see link to another thread where I refer to it.
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| Post# 306426 , Reply# 45 11/16/2014 at 22:43 (3,441 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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I see what you're talking about now! There are a few other 2-in-1 (stick with detachable dust buster) vacuums I've seen from Electrolux and Bissell.
Here is the Hoover Presto product information page on Hoover.com. CLICK HERE TO GO TO niclonnic's LINK | ||
| Post# 306459 , Reply# 46 11/17/2014 at 09:29 (3,440 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306541 , Reply# 47 11/17/2014 at 20:01 (3,440 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The thing about this Vax is (and probably Hoover's Windtunnel Air Cordless) is that it is proposes a longer life based on the fact that the batteries are completely removable. This isn't a new thing because GTECH already produce removable batteries to allow owners to hang onto their cordless sweepers than unnecessarily replace the whole unit.
Of course the competition/other brands may well develop something similar to battle with the TTI Cordless Air in time. But for the moment, its a good machine in terms of those looking for cordless power for quick clean ups. I would suggest that those looking to use a Cordless Air in place of a mains vacuum would have to realise that there isn't that much suction through the hose and they may well have to invest in another battery and spare filter given the weekly clean required to keep the filter fresh and clean as suggested by the brands. | ||
| Post# 306636 , Reply# 48 11/18/2014 at 19:04 (3,439 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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That's true
Most cordless vacuums have built-in batteries and have chargers that have to be plugged into the vacuum itself for charging. And when the batteries reach the end of their useful life, the entire vacuum will have to be discarded and the batteries recycled. With Bissell cordless machines, there are instructions in the manuals that show how to remove the batteries.
Yes, the Vax/Hoover Air Cordless would theoretically last a lot longer than other cordless machines. One configuration of the US Hoover model includes an additional filter, so the vacuum can be used while the other filter is being washed. As of right now, replacement batteries are only available through Hoover.com (US) and cost $99.00 each. Outrageous! As for performance, yes, the Air Cordless is good if you just want the carpet to look nice before guests come over. It wouldn't be good for a home with wall-to-wall carpeting. As FantomVacuumFan stated in his video, the Air Cordless would be good for apartments and homes with hard floors and area rugs. He also said that it would be good for elderly people, too, due to the light weight, swivel steering and lack of a cord to trip over. In the end, the Vax/Hoover Air Cordless shows that the idea of a full-sized battery-powered upright still has a long way to go. It won't (yet) replace a corded upright vacuum. | ||
| Post# 306675 , Reply# 49 11/19/2014 at 04:56 (3,438 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well I have wall to wall carpet and I think the Vax Air Cordless works absolutely fine. I haven't watched that video, but mine works well on both carpet and hard floors. Funnily enough mine snags on rugs and mats that aren't heavy enough to lay on a carpet - bathroom mats with thin rubberised backings on lino for example appear to get sucked up the Vax and possibly because of no bars on the sole plate to counteract this.
The Morphy Richards SuperVac on the other hand just goes over the mats easily without sucking it up into its smaller dust channel. I have since knocked one star off the Vax product though - primarily because suction through the short and difficult to manage hose is poor - fine for removing light dust but even with a full battery on board, it fails to move a hand sized mini turbine turbo tool. This post was last edited 11/19/2014 at 05:23 | ||
| Post# 306676 , Reply# 50 11/19/2014 at 05:39 (3,438 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Also your friend in the video relates to the filter differences on the Hoover Windtunnel Air and compares it to the Cordless Air - however he has got it wrong - the HEPA filter in the mains version is located above the main shroud at the top of the vacuum - not above the motor at the bottom of the mains vacuum.
It is not his fault entirely that he feels disappointed by the Cordless Air - it is down to both Hoover and Vax's claims that it is a full size upright that can do a large surface area - and thus falsely puts into the minds of its buyers that it can do the same job as a corded upright vacuum with a hose on it. | ||
| Post# 306756 , Reply# 53 11/19/2014 at 19:27 (3,438 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Where is this thread going?
Sebo_fan, FantomVacuumFan is not my friend, but a YouTube user that I'm subscribed to. I enjoyed his videos about the various Fantom vacuums he's owned, hence his namesake. This guy is also a fan of Hoover, and has a Hoover Linx cordless stick vac, a Hoover Platinum Collection Windtunnel bagless upright and a Hoover Windtunnel Air (original model).
To clarify, on the corded Hoover Windtunnel Air, the filter located above the main shroud is a pre-motor filter, used as a second line of defense. The HEPA filter is located above the motor, and traps the carbon dust and so on. As for the original subject about Dyson vs. Shark, I'd like to share my comments on those points: Hard floor cleaning - the Shark includes a "Hard Floor Genie" tool which features a straight suction opening with a microfiber pad, which allows for vacuuming AND dusting hard floors. I agree, the Dyson is more convenient. Plus, with the active base plate, it'll pick up better on hard floors. Shark's dusting pad will have to be washed periodically. Suction at the head - The majority of vacuuming is done with the main head, and that's where suction matters most. More suction allows for cleaner carpets. Above floor cleaning - I think the Lift-Away feature and canister caddy are very cool, but I don't find them to be that convenient. I'd rather have the Dyson's instant release wand, even if it's plastic and lacks a handle. Swivel steering - Dyson's Ball turns a full 90 degrees, whereas the Shark, with its wheeled power head, can't turn very well. But again, I don't find the Powered Lift-Away feature to be very convenient. Head width and edge cleaning - The Shark doesn't clean edges well, due to the left edge of the power head, where the belt runs. Dyson's head is about 3 inches wider, so it gets the job done faster. Warranty and longevity - Yes, both the Dyson and Shark are easy to maintain. Maintenance is basically the same for both: - Empty the bin after every use or when it's full - Rinse the filters under water every 3 months Yes, the Shark does seem like a great value for the price! I would want to get one if I couldn't afford the Dyson. Below is a still frame from the Dyson video, showing a comparison of the cleaner head width.
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| Post# 306772 , Reply# 55 11/19/2014 at 22:32 (3,438 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Welcome to Vacuumland!
You'll enjoy your time here!
I've never used the Shark Rotator Powered Lift-Away, but I have used a couple Shark vacuums at other places. Don't get me wrong; I liked the Lift-Away feature, but I thought that the vacuum pod would get heavy after awhile. I'm going by not only the TV ads, but reviews online and such. Dyson vacuums have better build quality IMO. I don't care about the people who say that they're cheaply made etc. They just seem sturdier! | ||
| Post# 306799 , Reply# 56 11/20/2014 at 07:17 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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One has to remember Nic that just because a design has everything in one, it isn't going to be automatically better. It depends on the user and what they are prepared to do.
Similarly, I owned a Vax Mach Air - similar model to the Hoover Windtunnel Air. Please don't try and tell me things I'm not aware of. "...To clarify, on the corded Hoover Windtunnel Air, the filter located above the main shroud is a pre-motor filter, used as a second line of defense. The HEPA filter is located above the motor, and traps the carbon dust and so on..." No. Not quite. The filter on the original AIR design above the main motor is the POST MOTOR FILTER. It may well be a HEPA by design, but it isn't at the right place to clean the air! The top washable filter IS A HEPA filter that cleans the air, known as the PRE-Motor filter.
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| Post# 306802 , Reply# 58 11/20/2014 at 07:58 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The info they have given in the diagram is an error. The pre motor filter is not actually Hepa. It is just a washable filter to protect the motor. The Hepa filter is the non washable filter above the motor. Vax will confirm this. | ||
| Post# 306803 , Reply# 59 11/20/2014 at 08:11 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The filter on the left is the pre motor washable filter. The filter on the right is the post motor Hepa filter which isn't washable.
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| Post# 306805 , Reply# 60 11/20/2014 at 09:25 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Oh dear. You haven't read my post at all, Marcus.. or so it seems.
If you have watched the video concerned you would have picked up on that error. The diagram is correct in so far as what each filter does. Now, Marcus - have you owned a Vax Mach Air? There are very few vents at the front by the motor to allow the motor filter to expel. This is why if you look at the white mesh at the top of the grid, it traps dirt that can be seen to the eye. Yes, it is not washable for the very reason that it sits above the motor! Also there is no motor at the top of the Vax Mach Air.. so even if the filter is washable, combined with the NLOS filters AND the post motor filter, HEPA can rightly be achieved. SEBO do things differently Marcus - yes there is a filter above the motor on the Felix but the exhaust filter at the front and that motor filter combined on the Felix contributes to its S-Class standard. The X series has the roll filter which is independent from the motor carbon filter. A paper pleated cone filter or grid filter does not necessarily mean it is automatically HEPA, in my experience. Some vacuums dependent on their design either overly complicate things OR in terms of bags, add layers of filtration to compensate for just a paper pleated cone filter at the exhaust. Clearly if a vacuum cleaner has a larger exhaust, then yes, that is where the claimed "clean air" will exhaust from. | ||
| Post# 306806 , Reply# 61 11/20/2014 at 09:31 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh have you posted a video? I've read your review of the Vax cordless. | ||
| Post# 306807 , Reply# 62 11/20/2014 at 09:33 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306808 , Reply# 63 11/20/2014 at 09:38 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh well get on the case! Haha | ||
| Post# 306809 , Reply# 64 11/20/2014 at 09:41 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306810 , Reply# 65 11/20/2014 at 09:43 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh no I'm hopeless at things like that! :-) | ||
| Post# 306812 , Reply# 66 11/20/2014 at 09:44 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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English is my second language | ||
| Post# 306813 , Reply# 67 11/20/2014 at 09:52 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306815 , Reply# 68 11/20/2014 at 09:58 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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That's an impressive amount. I currently have 3. I feel inadequate now haha Where do you keep them? | ||
| Post# 306817 , Reply# 69 11/20/2014 at 11:16 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306818 , Reply# 70 11/20/2014 at 11:23 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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My little collection will be increasing to 4 when the Sebo E series comes out.:) What do your parents think of your collection? | ||
| Post# 306820 , Reply# 71 11/20/2014 at 12:31 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Oh my late parents thought it was very funny. My late father offered to buy several vacuums for me but I worked and saved; but also I have a lot of family who passed on their old vacuums to me.
By the way I changed my review - knocked down from 5 stars to 4 stars. For the main reason the suction through the hose isn't really all that powerful as well as a few design elements that annoy me. Whilst in use today for example, the dusting crevice tool thing fell off from the back. I don't know what I did! | ||
| Post# 306821 , Reply# 72 11/20/2014 at 12:39 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I'm sorry to hear of your loss. :-( | ||
| Post# 306836 , Reply# 73 11/20/2014 at 13:58 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306837 , Reply# 74 11/20/2014 at 14:04 (3,437 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Must have been tough losing them at a young age. But life goes on. | ||
| Post# 306844 , Reply# 75 11/20/2014 at 15:14 (3,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 306871 , Reply# 76 11/20/2014 at 18:31 (3,437 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
Sorry Nar... But you've got it all wrong when it comes to the corded or mains powered Hoover Windtunnel Air filters.
I happen to own a Windtunnel Air and the filter located at the top of the machine just above the cyclones is the washable pre motor filter. The filter located at the bottom of the vacuum cleaner, right on top of the motor is the post-motor HEPA filter and is not washable. | ||
| Post# 306884 , Reply# 77 11/20/2014 at 21:07 (3,437 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
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Well...
I can see that there are differences between US and UK models. I don't really know what Sebo_fan and Marcus are arguing about.
In addition, the sudden change of subject to the Vax Air Cordless came in when Sebo_fan broke the news about buying said vacuum. Sebo_fan, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you. | ||
| Post# 306908 , Reply# 78 11/21/2014 at 06:17 (3,436 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Nic - Sorry for going off topic. Marcus is partly right. It would appear that Vax have got it wrong with their UK user manual - but I remember that there was hardly any air coming out of the vacuum at the point of where the motor is. I can see why Vax suggest the top filter is HEPA though - it does after all emit more hot air from around the top of the vacuum than the bottom.
End of the day the U.S have got the design that we had to put up with on the mains powered Air versions in the UK where the hose is concerned. Very annoying and no where as effective as having it being relocated to the front. In reference to your original post Nic - it is pure marketing and it isn't worldwide Dyson who have made this statement, but rather the Dyson arm in the U.S
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