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Post# 303289   10/26/2014 at 16:27 (3,468 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

A breif background - My daily drivers have been a Kirby Sentria II (bought brand new about a year ago) and a Numatic Eco Henry (bought brand new about 2 months or so ago)....

The Kirby is fantastic and leaves me feeling like the carpets have really been vacuumed properly, however after a period of only using the Henry (due to its ease) upon using it again I was surprised at how much the Kirby picked up that the Henry had been missing in such a short period of time - even though I had been using the Henry with the airo brush.

So this left me with a dilemma.

For day to day / can't be bothered vacuuming moods the Henry was so much easier, however I now didn't feel like it was cleaning properly. Or at least not as well as I'd like it to. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic machine, the issue really was the massive difference in carpet care between it and the Kirby. To be expected though I suppose.

At least thats the excuse I'm using for upgrading and I'm sticking to it!

So. I wanted a cylinder to contrast the Kirby. I also wanted cleaning ability to rival the Kirby so that I'd feel my carpets were spotless regradless of the machine I had used. This only really left one choice...

Que the Sebo D4 Premium Eco.

I did consider the Miele Complete C3 Comfort Electro EcoLine Plus - however with a price tag of £600 and then the stupidly high cost of bags and filters I decided against the idea.

I've had a few electro nozzle machines in the past - Henry Turbo (reasonable performance) - DC21 Motorhead (fantastic performance but pig awkward for using the small tools) - AEG UltraOne with electro head (very cheap hose let this machine down).... The Sebo is just fantastic!

Very pleased with it and only paid £350 brand new from Amazon.

Not a lot I can say about it really. Performs flawlessly and is very quiet - the power head is noiser than the main motor on full power. Huge bags - 6 ltr, extra long cord - 12 meters giving a total of 15.5 meter cleaning range, big S class sealed filter system and cheap running costs.

The picture of the bag contents is what it has picked up after the house was vacuumed the previous day from top to bottom with the Kirby. Most of it is general carpet fluff but there is also some dust and dirt in there. I also noticed it found some larger particles such as grit that the Kirby must of snowploughed and then missed the previous day.

The only issue now is that it's so good I won't be bothered about using the Kirby!



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Post# 303291 , Reply# 1   10/26/2014 at 16:29 (3,468 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

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Post# 303297 , Reply# 2   10/26/2014 at 17:10 (3,468 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Nice new SEBO D4 Premium Eco you have there. Do like that model. How you finding the new 700 watt Eco motor in it? Bet the 6 litre bags will last a while. The ET-1 power head is great at carpet cleaning, mine on my Felix is yet to have a new brush bar after 7 years use. Brush turfs still protrude the soleplate.

Post# 303306 , Reply# 3   10/26/2014 at 19:54 (3,468 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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oh, your KIRBY must feel terrible! replaced by German Engineering! It's likely in the closet right now, thinking what it could've done to deserve this fate! Run to it, Take it in your arms, and KIRBY the house! You're doing something right if another vacuum can barely pull squat out of the carpet! tongue-out


Post# 303336 , Reply# 4   10/27/2014 at 01:51 (3,468 days old) by marcusprit ()        

That is great to hear. The Sebo is AWESOME! I'm looking forward to the E Series which should be available beginning of next year :)

Post# 303337 , Reply# 5   10/27/2014 at 03:10 (3,468 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
What a beautiful, sexy machine!!

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Congratulations on your new purchase!!

I came *this* close to getting one of those myself. :)


Post# 303343 , Reply# 6   10/27/2014 at 03:49 (3,468 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Cheers guys :)

Madaboutsebo - The suction is great.
On full power it is not too powerful, but not under powered either. I'd say it's just right anyway.
Gone are the days of buying a machine with a stupidly powerful motor and only using it on the half way setting because anything more was too much.

I'm using it on full power for general cleaning and reduce it to about half way when using the tools.

I've also noted that it produces very little heat.

I'll try making a video later today....


Post# 303346 , Reply# 7   10/27/2014 at 07:18 (3,468 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Very nice looking machine! The main cannister unit looks quite large...what are its dimensions? Several years ago I tried a Sebo but I was worried that the exposed wire on the hose handle would be easy to rip loose by accident.

Gary


Post# 303348 , Reply# 8   10/27/2014 at 08:22 (3,468 days old) by marcusprit ()        

The exposed wire is one of the weaknesses of the D4 and K3 premium. You just have to be careful with it I guess. It is covered by the warranty. But it would be better if the cable wasn't exposed.

Post# 303350 , Reply# 9   10/27/2014 at 08:53 (3,468 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Very nice!  I really like the way the tools are stored.  smile


Post# 303367 , Reply# 10   10/27/2014 at 13:07 (3,467 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Marcusprit - While I can see where you are coming from regarding the cable being subject to more risk, I personally prefer this set up.

Look at it this way... internal or external this area on an electro hose is going to be a main wear area. Or at least in my eyes it's the end thats most likely to fail as its the part thats twisting and turning about the most.
Say if the cable was built into the internal part of the hose handle and it was to break, would this mean a new hose?

Yes the cable is exposed at the flexing joint on the Sebo handle, but it clips right off for very easy replacement should it become damaged or wear due to age / use.

I've seen them for sale somewhere quite cheaply, however here is an example of the small cable joint available from Amazon.... It comes as a kit with an electro telescopic tube too, however I've seen the connector cable for sale by itself...

Cable joint and electric telescopic tube from Sebo - £41
Electric telescopic tube from Miele - £139

I'm quite happy with the easy replace and repair option Sebo have gone with... not to mention the cheap repair costs should this cable fail!


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Post# 303370 , Reply# 11   10/27/2014 at 13:16 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes that's a good point. It is the best built cylinder I've seen
It's a cool looking machine :-)


Post# 303371 , Reply# 12   10/27/2014 at 13:25 (3,467 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Countryguy - You're right in the machine looking quite large. It is, quite simply, a beast.

In the UK at least I think it is the largest domestic cylinder machine on the market in terms of size, capacity and cleaning range.

The main unit dimensions are roughly 20 x 14 inches.

Here are a few pics of it stood with my Kirby to give you a better visual idea of size.

It really wouldn't be suited to a small house or apartment thats for sure!

The size isn't an issue for me, I've never found the Kirbys size an issue so the Sebo is a breeze. I quite like em big, pardon the pun hahaha :')



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Post# 303372 , Reply# 13   10/27/2014 at 13:31 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I like the LED that spins faster the higher the power :-)

Post# 303373 , Reply# 14   10/27/2014 at 13:42 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

And the pre motor filter to allow for maximum air flow pulling from the top is genius and a very good exhaust filter. It's very well designed.

Post# 303375 , Reply# 15   10/27/2014 at 13:46 (3,467 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Me too :)

The ONLY thing I would change or add to this machine would be a headlight on the power brush.

The LED headlight on the Kirby is very handy and helps point out things in dark corners ect... would of been a nice touch to add one on the Sebo


Post# 303376 , Reply# 16   10/27/2014 at 13:56 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

You will have to carry a torch :-)

Post# 303377 , Reply# 17   10/27/2014 at 14:01 (3,467 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

haha I'll get one of those miners lamps and strap it to my head!

Just had a mooch about on the net trying to find out about the new E series....
Found this on the Sebo german website... If this is indeed an image of the new E series I already don't like it!

Looks very small and compact


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Post# 303378 , Reply# 18   10/27/2014 at 14:05 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

It is compact. I think it's a 3.5 litre bag. It's a little bigger than the K series. Ideal for a small to medium size home. I quite like it :-)

Post# 303380 , Reply# 19   10/27/2014 at 14:17 (3,467 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I remember the days when we had dogs and I had a Miele S5 cat & dog... the bag seemed to be forever full! That was 4.5ltr... hence me not being a big fan of smaller machines.

Sadly we don't have dogs at the moment, the ones we had passed away due to old age and we now have two retarded cats instead so I don't fill bags quite as quickly... But I'd still rather buy a large machine and not have to think about replacing the bag for a couple of months!

The Sebo D I've got will obviously fill bags quite quickly given the ET-1 nozzle picking up so much fluff, but I recon I'll get between 2 and 3 months out of a bag with the machine being used most days.


Post# 303381 , Reply# 20   10/27/2014 at 14:22 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes I think they could have made the E series a 4.5 litre bag then they would have had a small medium and large cylinder cleaner
But I think the E series will replace the K series eventually.
You are used to big having used the Kirby :-)


Post# 303382 , Reply# 21   10/27/2014 at 14:25 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Yes I think they could have made the E series a 4.5 litre bag then they would have had a small medium and large cylinder cleaner
But I think the E series will replace the K series eventually.
You are used to big having used the Kirby :-)


Post# 303383 , Reply# 22   10/27/2014 at 14:31 (3,467 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Thanks matt8808 for answering my question. Great to know the new Eco 700 watt motor is well suited and the performance is ok and there is less heat coming off it. Should make the new 700 watt Felix's well suited to the lower watt motor too then. I don't use my Felix on full 1300 watt power only half to 3/4 power for carpet cleaning and half for tool cleaning. May use full power when bag is nearly full that's the only time.

I agree with you there matt8808 with regards to replacement parts being cheaper and easily replaceable on the SEBO D4 Premium or any SEBO for that matter. I would like a D series and it would be this model as I like the ET-1 power head for carpet cleaning but I do love my Felix. Would like a X series though!

Enjoy your new SEBO.

That is s picture of the new E series on the Germany website. Not sure if it will sit in between the D and K or eventually replace the K series. No official info on it yet but it is a more compact cylinder compared to the D series.


Post# 303384 , Reply# 23   10/27/2014 at 14:33 (3,467 days old) by Marks_here (_._)        

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LOL 😃 at reply #17 at the miners lamps... The idiots next door to me used to run around with them on minus that they are 2 sandwiches short of a picnic, they used to wear dark clothes & hide in the dark but their stench would always give them away where they were/are.

Post# 303397 , Reply# 24   10/27/2014 at 15:28 (3,467 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Gosh my 3.5 lite bag on my Felix last 3 months using it most days to pick up pet hair. Feel like I should be changing it more often or it not picking up very well. 6 litre bag would last me 5 to 6 months at a guess. Saying that I do let it fill until it's totally full and the bag is solid!

Post# 303399 , Reply# 25   10/27/2014 at 15:45 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

My Felix bag would last 3 months. I think Matt must live in a Palace :)

Post# 303402 , Reply# 26   10/27/2014 at 16:01 (3,467 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Glad you said that Marcusprit I feel my Felix is quite normal now 😀!

Post# 303403 , Reply# 27   10/27/2014 at 16:13 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Haha good :-)

Post# 303468 , Reply# 28   10/28/2014 at 02:28 (3,467 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

An EXCELLENT cleaning "Team" there-the Kirby and the Sebo D4 canister.Use the Kirby for the bulk of the carpet cleaning-then the Sebo for the canister jobs!You may never need to put the hose on the Kirby with Sebo around!Thats the case with me--Sebo,Henry(new acqushon)TriStarCXL,NSS M1 are my main canisters.

Post# 303474 , Reply# 29   10/28/2014 at 05:10 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

Even better sell the Kirby and just use the Sebo. So much easier :-)

Post# 303496 , Reply# 30   10/28/2014 at 10:29 (3,467 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Sorry Marcusprit, nothing outcleans a Kirby on carpets! Not even Sebo.


Post# 303498 , Reply# 31   10/28/2014 at 10:34 (3,467 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Mm for the price a Kirby would cost me in the UK brand new, I'd rather have a top of the line Miele canister and a SEBO D4. Two for the price of one.

Post# 303501 , Reply# 32   10/28/2014 at 10:45 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I'm with you Sebo fan :-) But I'd have the E series when it's available.

Post# 303504 , Reply# 33   10/28/2014 at 11:12 (3,467 days old) by marcusprit ()        

And that miele C3 Complete is £600 they're not gonna sell many of those in the UK at that price specially as the Sebo is nearly half the price! What are Miele thinking?

Post# 303529 , Reply# 34   10/28/2014 at 16:49 (3,466 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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I'll second that sebo_fan.

Everyone has opinions and views and real life experiences on what is the best at deep cleaning and I respect though, it's down to personal choice at the end of the day on what you feel is the best for you.


Post# 303532 , Reply# 35   10/28/2014 at 16:57 (3,466 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Very nice vacuum cleaner. I had one before my felix, but because my house is multi-story and full of corner and such, it was a bit of a lump to manoeuvre, although the performance and build quality was typically SEBO - incredible. Although I had a suction leak near the bag full indicator, it used to whistle badly, form new as well, but that would have been just my one I guess. Same power nozzle as the felix of course, meaning it is one of the best in the business.

What I also love about SEBO's and what makes them the best bagged vacuums in my opinion is the filtration quality and the bags being inexpensive. Also, the suction on this model comes from the top of the bag meaning it should loose very little suction as it fills, that's what I found with my one, although it was the 2,400 model, although the difference shouldn't be a great deal in terms of suction.

Glad you like it my friend !


Post# 303840 , Reply# 36   10/31/2014 at 04:36 (3,464 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Nice new purchase - enjoy it Matt!

Post# 304450 , Reply# 37   11/3/2014 at 16:10 (3,460 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Cheers for the comments guys :)

One thing I'm really noticing on this machine is the airbelt. I no longer have to watch where I'm pulling the machine.

Should the machine bump into furniture or walls ect ect it gently bounces off, and due to the soft foamy texture of the belt it does about as much damage as throwing a rolled up sock at a brick wall would.

Also 0 damage or scuffs to the machine as its kinda hard to scuff fabric. However should the airbelt ever start to look tatty its cover is a consumable part thats easily obtained from Sebo :)

One of my pet hates is scuffed furniture guards


Post# 304483 , Reply# 38   11/3/2014 at 17:21 (3,460 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The Airbelt is acutually damp cloth washable, so any minor scuffs can usually be wiped off (as I have found).

Bosch copied SEBO on the AirBelt idea with their AirBumper on their Free"e"/BSGL5 series, but only covers the side of the machine and it isn't as effective. Infact on mine, the plastic was inclined to get pretty badly scraped.



Post# 304675 , Reply# 39   11/4/2014 at 17:47 (3,459 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Need a light for your SEBO D4?

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Here's an old archive thread link on here www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... (or if it doesn't work, click the link.)

I experimented with a standard round torch and a SEBO K1 tool clip which clips onto the plastic-metal telescopic tube (since it was designed to clip to either K1 tube or K3 Premium tube same as the one supplied with the D4 Premium.) You can just make out the torch I added to the tube!



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