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| Post# 301806 , Reply# 1 10/14/2014 at 12:14 (3,478 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
Wow someone else got one only a couple didn't disadvantages Dyson just give you so much more The hose will become more flexible after time is just that it's been in the box for quite awhile and it's just come off the assembly line to take a while find it a lot quieter than the old ones I do hope you love this like I do and olive oil tinfoil.
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| Post# 301808 , Reply# 2 10/14/2014 at 12:23 (3,478 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Thanks Dyson boy I'm sure I will. This machine has totally changed my mind about Dyson. I wasn't a fan but I am now! :-) | ||
| Post# 301809 , Reply# 3 10/14/2014 at 12:30 (3,478 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
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I'm sure you will love it to bits I was younger I was never really a Dyson fan but I did have quite a lot of them mostlycollector pieces.it's great Dyson had finding made machine can agitate the carpet and has fantastic air flow.one thing I love about is the filters stayed spotless for a long time compare to others it well finally get dirty it would take quite a while but I have I want DC 41 and I had it for about a year and I never clean the filter and it stayed spotless the ball will be easier to move as it's a bit stiff when it's new. What do you think the plastic???
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| Post# 301813 , Reply# 5 10/14/2014 at 13:26 (3,478 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
"this machine has totally changed my mind about dyson"
The feeling is very much mutual my friend. I thought dysons were over-rated, plastic rubbish, but this machine has made me change my mind. They are good machines! Like you I also have a felix ! I have the navy model. As already mentioned the hose will ease up, as does the ball, with use. They need to break in. One thing I don't like about the dyson is the 1 inch strip it leave un-agitated, due to the brush bar motor, but that does mean edge to edge cleaning, so you win some, and loose some. No big deal. Hope you will grow to love it as much as I do ! :) | ||
| Post# 301818 , Reply# 7 10/14/2014 at 14:04 (3,478 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Awesome! Glad you, and oliveoiltinfoil are enjoying your DC41's :) do you have any pics? :) that would be really cool. I really want to get one, it's my next vacuum hopefully! Unless a bargain pops up somewhere... Tayyab | ||
| Post# 301820 , Reply# 8 10/14/2014 at 14:09 (3,478 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Will see if i can upload some pics later. Yes Parwaz if you can get a good deal then go for it. :) | ||
| Post# 301826 , Reply# 10 10/14/2014 at 14:39 (3,478 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Btw I thought the brushbar was removable on the DC41's to clean it? Turn the two tabs on the top and remove the sole plate, then four screws to take the brush bars out | ||
| Post# 301830 , Reply# 11 10/14/2014 at 14:58 (3,478 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Yes the brushbar is removable. The tabs have changed but theres still 4 torx screws. | ||
| Post# 301834 , Reply# 12 10/14/2014 at 15:07 (3,478 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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| Post# 301835 , Reply# 13 10/14/2014 at 15:11 (3,478 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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If they could add variable suction and somehow make the ball smaller so it could go under furniture it would be perfect for me. :-) | ||
| Post# 301841 , Reply# 14 10/14/2014 at 15:56 (3,478 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
Glad to see your liking your new Dyson DC41 MK2 marcusprit as well. Must go and see what all the fuss is about and try one out soon and the Eco SEBO models too.
Dyson must be due a completely new ball model out soon. Or is the V ball the last evolution of this technology and they will just make changes to this one!? They need to make the brush bar(s) easy to remove from the sides like the DC15, DC24 and DC25. Like marcusprit make the ball smaller (could use the DDM?) and bin smaller in diameter but not height so it can lie flat. I can't see Dyson or any bagless vacuum having variable power/suction (my view) because the cyclones need a constant airflow at a certain speed to make the cyclones work efficiently to filter out the fine dust I would think. Dyson and his Engineers worked out the more smaller cyclones they have the more airflow they can get through the cyclone system which would give better efficiencies and filteration. Slowing the motor power down would that not decrease the cyclone efficiencies. | ||
| Post# 301849 , Reply# 15 10/14/2014 at 16:06 (3,478 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Have the turning tabs changed into the red ones you pull up like the DC50? If so, that's better because the tabs are really stiff to turn on the 41 | ||
| Post# 301914 , Reply# 16 10/15/2014 at 06:14 (3,477 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Yes they have and they are much easier :-) | ||
| Post# 301916 , Reply# 17 10/15/2014 at 06:18 (3,477 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Madaboutsebo that's a good point about the variable suction and cyclones I didn't think about that but you're correct. | ||
| Post# 301917 , Reply# 18 10/15/2014 at 06:25 (3,477 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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I suppose you could have a suction release slider on the hose when using the tools on delicates. | ||
| Post# 301923 , Reply# 19 10/15/2014 at 08:25 (3,477 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 301925 , Reply# 20 10/15/2014 at 08:32 (3,477 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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DC04 models with clutch and DC07/DC14 has vents on the hose cuff to have variable suction | ||
| Post# 301960 , Reply# 21 10/15/2014 at 16:59 (3,477 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thanks marcusprit it's something I thought about before in the past about cyclone technology and variable suction power. If it could be done without compromise on performance not sure Dyson would have that option on his vacuums, after all he has stated he doesn't like unnecessary buttons and dials on vacuums! Not that variable suction is can be very useful.
Like Parwaz mentions I was going to say they had a suction release button on the hose cuff on the clutch DC04's, they could put one of them on again. I don't recall my DC07 having one and the vents on the cuff (not sure my DC07 at the time had them!) don't think they do anything. Thats why the tools where designed with vents on them (crevice and upholstery tools) to stop them from sticking. Dyson doesn't always carry over some of the good design features from older models I have found in the past when designing the new ones. The Engineers look at the old models to see what can be improved and a whole new machine is designed and engineered and that appears. They should take the good features from the older models and put into the newer ones! Unlike the DC41 MK2 which has just be improved upon! Marcusprit do you find the DC41 MK2 to generate much heat from the exhaust air out of the side of the V Ball? Do you have hard flooring? If so how do you find the V ball (plastic) on the hard floor? I would be scared it would scratch it! | ||
| Post# 301994 , Reply# 22 10/16/2014 at 00:48 (3,477 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The exhaust air doesn't generate much heat, i've noticed the Felix can get quite warm but not the Dyson. And yes i've used the ball on hard floors it hasn't scratched them. i can't see that being a problem. You need to try one out. I really like this machine! :) | ||
| Post# 302003 , Reply# 23 10/16/2014 at 02:49 (3,477 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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Thanks for backing up my personal findings as well. I also mentioned about the heat, or lack there of on the dyson compared to the felix. Also, I have yet to accumulate carbon dust on the post motor filter even after a months worth of use.
You will grow to love it. I still love my felix as it is a smart looking vacuum, great performance and easy to use, but I think at the moment, I am certainly leaning toward the dyson, which I never would have thought I would do. | ||
| Post# 302006 , Reply# 24 10/16/2014 at 03:12 (3,477 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Yes I'm starting to lean that way too. One thing I've noticed is most of the exhaust air blows upwards and very little downwards which is a good thing as you don't want it blowing the dust away from the carpet and especially hard floors as you're vacuuming. | ||
| Post# 302009 , Reply# 25 10/16/2014 at 04:25 (3,476 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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Yes, very good point worth mentioning.
One thing I have found is the hose tends to snag if you pull up on the extension wand to use the hose, and you make like a right angle at the hose, the hose collapses and the suction release valve kicks in, so what I do is place one hand round where the hose joins the connecter, and the other on the wand. NO fuss at all, second nature now, and it doesn't tip over when you use the hose, but follows you around, especially if you are using the hose from behind the cleaner. | ||
| Post# 302042 , Reply# 26 10/16/2014 at 11:25 (3,476 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Some of the Dysons have Carbon fibre filaments for cleaning hard floors. I wonder if they will add them to the DC41 brushroll? | ||
| Post# 302046 , Reply# 27 10/16/2014 at 12:39 (3,476 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Thank you marcusprit for answering my questions. Interesting to know there is no noticeable heat from the exhaust and its ok on hard floors. Yeah I know what you mean about the Felix but I've lowered the variable power so it's not on full I find half to three quarters power is fine for carpets and tool use less heat. I will go and try one out very soon. Glad your enjoying yours.
I know you mentioned the heat oliveoiltinfoil from your DC41 MK2 as well. I thought I'd asked you all that have one of these Dyson's what it was like. I wonder what the new DC40 would be like!? One thing I do miss using my Felix is a hose and wand setup. The Felix is fine though and I have a Miele S7 for the extra reach when I can be bothered to use it. That's why I was looking at a SEBO X series. Thing is I do love my Felix for it flexibility. I must admit the DC41 MK2 looks good. Glad your liking yours too oliveoiltinfoil. | ||
| Post# 302047 , Reply# 28 10/16/2014 at 12:46 (3,476 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Oh don't get me wrong I still love my Felix too. I'm keeping mine.For bagged uprights you can't beat Sebo! :-) | ||
| Post# 302057 , Reply# 29 10/16/2014 at 15:36 (3,476 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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You certainly can not beat SEBO for bagged vacuum cleaners!
I dont like the look of the DC50 brushroll think the full length nylon brushes are to thin compared to the normal brush turfs and I think they are not as stiff as other brushrolls. They could put a carbon fibre strip at the back of the soleplate to help reduce static on hard floors! | ||
| Post# 302079 , Reply# 30 10/16/2014 at 19:06 (3,476 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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See, I quite like the look of the combo brushes that Dyson have added here - they're not original - but rather reminds me of the first Electrolux Ergorapido ZB271 I owned back in the 2000s.
As you can see, the thin brush roll was made up of squeegee rubber strips and then paint brush like bristles. It was useless on carpets unless the rubber squeegee strips were taken out (and either could be done for cleaning purposes). What the ZB271 lacked was mains power and extra suction power, both of which the Dyson DC50 has. Im all for soft bristles with a home full of wool carpets.
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| Post# 302083 , Reply# 31 10/16/2014 at 19:13 (3,476 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 302084 , Reply# 32 10/16/2014 at 19:15 (3,476 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton) | ||
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| Post# 302087 , Reply# 33 10/16/2014 at 19:20 (3,476 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 302120 , Reply# 34 10/17/2014 at 02:07 (3,476 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Lol then blame the Panasonic icon for the brush roll idea, it even ran slower! | ||
| Post# 302121 , Reply# 35 10/17/2014 at 02:19 (3,476 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.) | ||
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| Post# 302138 , Reply# 36 10/17/2014 at 10:06 (3,475 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England) | ||
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| Post# 302140 , Reply# 37 10/17/2014 at 10:20 (3,475 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Actually I clean hard floors with a moving brush roll all of the time - unless the model I'm using has a brush roll on/off that actually works well with both functions. Here's where the joys of TTI's Vax Mach Air spring to mind again! Brush roll was terrifically soft, yet on hard floors with the brush roll off, impossible to move as it sucked down on the hard floor. Like moving a bag of potatoes with your feet!
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| Post# 302165 , Reply# 38 10/17/2014 at 14:57 (3,475 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I know, LOL but the faster it goes, the lesser the chance of it getting jammed, with similar brushbars :) I do like the Panasonic Icon though | ||
| Post# 302260 , Reply# 40 10/18/2014 at 08:13 (3,474 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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They wont scratch the flooring, brooms use the same material- nylon bristles They only say to turn the brushbar off because it scatters, but I never experienced that with the machines I used | ||
| Post# 302277 , Reply# 41 10/18/2014 at 12:47 (3,474 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The only way a brush roll can damage hard floors in my experience is if the sole plate itself is damaging OR a beater bar like the old classic Hoover uprights. From exposed metal grids set across the brush roll to anything that sits on the sole plate means it isn't all that suitable for natural hard wood floors.
Not all brush rolls are the same though, Tolivac - some are made to clean tile and to withstand the wear and tear. Most EU vacs I have tried this year tend to have softer bristles and are able to clean hard wood and tile without damage. | ||
Post# 302554 , Reply# 42 10/21/2014 at 02:51 (3,472 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Nonetheless,won't use a brushroll vacuum to clean hard floors-carpets only. | ||
| Post# 302686 , Reply# 43 10/22/2014 at 10:04 (3,470 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
the lesser the chance of it getting jammed
What in the name of sanity are you talking about? Less chance of it getting jammed if it spins slower, how the hell did you get that?
The slower brushroll meant it groomed the carpet pile better and got deeper into the fibres without ripping them up, which on first impressions, is exactly what Dyson have done with the DC41mk2 and the reason it's proving to be a very good upright. | ||
| Post# 302698 , Reply# 44 10/22/2014 at 11:57 (3,470 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Dyson have increased the power on the brushroll by 25% it spins faster to clean deeper into the carpet. | ||
| Post# 302705 , Reply# 45 10/22/2014 at 12:53 (3,470 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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No, I said the faster it goes, the lesser the chance of it getting jammed. Its obvious! Plus the new brushbar design and brushbar motor spinning fast is the reason why the new DC41 agitates the carpet | ||
| Post# 302838 , Reply# 46 10/23/2014 at 18:11 (3,469 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Hmmm, I think the faster-spinning brush would just give less time for a jam to take place. Faster spinning can cause carpet damage (I've read horror stories of carpets being MELTED, the cheap kind, by, well, guess!
Either way, all brushes will jam. It all depends on design, the perfect pebble can bring a Hoover Convertible to it's knees, a sock can cause a Dyson to fry a motor, a thread can melt a Bissell's brush (Seen one melted to the point that the central rod of the brush was HALF AN INCH off from where it usually is! | ||
| Post# 302901 , Reply# 47 10/24/2014 at 01:09 (3,469 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Dyson clutches belts are fitted with a mechanism which will cause it to make a ratchets noise instead of breaking the belt. The clutch less models have a belt snap which is easy to replace. The dysons with motorised brushbars have a reset button:) | ||
| Post# 303129 , Reply# 48 10/25/2014 at 16:34 (3,467 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
Funny you mention that | ||
| Post# 303143 , Reply# 49 10/25/2014 at 18:09 (3,467 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 303185 , Reply# 50 10/25/2014 at 21:20 (3,467 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
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I will | ||
| Post# 303321 , Reply# 51 10/26/2014 at 20:48 (3,466 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK) | ||
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Parwaz, That's not correct. My DC24 doesn't have a reset button. This head spins slower than the older DC24 heads and it cleans just as well. 
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| Post# 303344 , Reply# 52 10/27/2014 at 04:22 (3,465 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Oh, I forgot about that updated cleaner head, I wonder what happens if the brushbar on that gets jammed :/ it will either break or get automatically reset?not sure | ||
| Post# 303440 , Reply# 53 10/27/2014 at 20:27 (3,465 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 303476 , Reply# 54 10/28/2014 at 06:30 (3,464 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Haha after using this Dyson there will never be any going back to the poor old Kirby :-) | ||
| Post# 303494 , Reply# 55 10/28/2014 at 10:24 (3,464 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 303538 , Reply# 57 10/28/2014 at 17:33 (3,464 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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While Kirby and the new Kirby Avalir are great vacuum cleaners and the new Avalir may be successful especially in America.
In the UK and probably parts of Europe people are leading more and more busy life styles be it family orientated or socially and spending a lot of time cleaning is not high on the list as it used to be years ago. That's not saying some don't spend some amount of time cleaning. People want quick, fast, effective cleaning that takes little or no time to keep theirs homes clean and tidy with minimal effort. Something that is lightweight too. That's why cordless vacuums have become more popular of late in the UK. They want convience, people don't want to be using their big vacuum cleaners with several attachments they have got to be changing to do a task, well not all the time. I noticed this reading online reviews UK users have posted. Some say their full size vacuum hasn't been used since using a cordless vacuum or a lighter corded vacuum. While they may or may not be as effective as some full size vacuums some will say, that's what people in the UK seem to want, light easy to use, cheap to maintain and run and quick and effective. Plus the bagless craze in the UK is still at large too. That's not saying complete homecare systems like Kirby don't have there place. Only time will tell as usual. | ||
| Post# 303548 , Reply# 58 10/28/2014 at 18:46 (3,464 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Woohoo, let's throw a pool party, and have time left to Kirby up the mess! Take a holiday and join us,MadAboutSebo! The Kirby is waiting, and so is the sparkling lemonade!
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| Post# 303598 , Reply# 60 10/29/2014 at 04:36 (3,463 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I am glad that the new cleaner head is much better and working great for you :) | ||
| Post# 303885 , Reply# 62 10/31/2014 at 14:51 (3,461 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I doubt it is possible, but you may need to get a new brushbar, the carbon fibre filaments are designed to be really soft and delicate to remove the fine dust off hard floors | ||
| Post# 303891 , Reply# 63 10/31/2014 at 15:12 (3,461 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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If the carbon fibre filaments are going to wear down quickly then Dyson should make them replaceable. | ||
| Post# 303902 , Reply# 64 10/31/2014 at 17:18 (3,461 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-) | ||
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Carbon fibre brush strips I've been wondering just how resilient these are in normal use, on floor coverings, carpets, etc. Do they wear down quite quickly? | ||
| Post# 303997 , Reply# 66 11/1/2014 at 12:45 (3,460 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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