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Post# 296498   9/1/2014 at 21:12 (3,523 days old) by kenkart ()        

Vintage vacuums exclusively, I do, everytime I get something less than 30 years old, I get frustrated with it and go back to something vintage....right now im using my 68 Model G and a Silverado...one of my newest machines, Donald likes it, also I have been using a Hoover Connestellation model 84..probably my favorite Hoover.

Post# 296505 , Reply# 1   9/1/2014 at 21:41 (3,523 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
I use both.....

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When I clean, I use an Aerus, Kirby, Rainbow, or Filterqueen newer models, however in between for quick pickups I always grab one of my vintage machines. I do regret getting rid of a Eureka model 2070B. Twin power automatic. There is just something about the sound of their motors. I also believe these 6 and 7 amp upright motors are just overkill, the 3.5 amps did a fantastic job, especially with the 2 speed motors and the vibragroomer brush rolls.



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Post# 296507 , Reply# 2   9/1/2014 at 21:43 (3,523 days old) by kenkart ()        
I Agree..

The old 250,255 and 260 with the Disturbulator brush relly gets the dirt as well..

Post# 296550 , Reply# 3   9/2/2014 at 00:01 (3,523 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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The newer machines I have are just these two:

— Electrolux Marquise which I like very much. I customized it with chrome trim and a 1692 power nozzle with headlight. It's really a terrific vacuum cleaner.

— Kenmore Magic Blue which I also like very much, the only drawback is the tiny bags that fill up very quickly. Boy does it have the power! But it's very quiet and easy to maneuver around.

All my other machines are pre-1985 with, by far, most of them from the 1950s. I'd much rather use the 1950s machines, but when I have to do serious cleaning and do it quickly I'll use one of the newer ones.

Right now, my tank daily driver is the wonderful maroon Royal (the hybridized "Royal-Electro") that I just spruced up. My upright daily driver is a Kirby 561. I just can't get over how stunningly beautiful that vacuum cleaner is.


Post# 296650 , Reply# 4   9/2/2014 at 12:59 (3,522 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I far prefer vintage machines to modern ones. My favorite modern machine is also vintage. The 2001 Air-Way signature series.

Post# 296678 , Reply# 5   9/2/2014 at 14:27 (3,522 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Vintage machines are in the rotation with a late 90s Electrolux (not quite vintage I guess but after the work I put in it to refurbish it I treat it like it's vintage) and a new Kenmore Progressive.

I love the ten foot long hoses on the old square Kenmores. I can park the vac in one spot in the room and work the whole room with that long hose, plus nothing is so high off the floor to ever require I pick the canister up so the hose can reach. I also like that the hose attaches well in front of the castering wheel. Weird thing about the newest vac, the swiveling hose attaches to the body more or less above the castering wheel. It is dynamically unstable and the vac won't follow the hose down a hallway as I move from room to room, preferring to wander side to side and ping off the walls. Very annoying.

Still, I know there are only so many times I can operate that retracting cord reel before it goes soft on me, and finding new ones is both costly and requires some patience to find them. Ditto those long hoses. Sears sporadically offers a six foot long replacement hose and there is a generic ten footer with pig tails to connect the hose to the vacuum and the wand, the latter making the hose inconvenient to use with pig tail cord flapping around, but if using these is what it takes to save the two original ten foot hoses I have (actually neither is really original, both were re-hosed some years ago with the original ends), then these are the compromises I make.

Those beige boxes are a particularly happy set of engineering compromises and very well made. With a powerful enough motor they are generally competitive with new vacuums for cleaning power and you can adapt a couple of different HEPA bags to them. Lack of availability of cord reels and hoses are the two strikes against using one as a daily driver, which is a shame.


Post# 296714 , Reply# 6   9/2/2014 at 18:45 (3,522 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Mine are pretty much in rotation, unless my back is giving trouble, then its lightweight/newer or self propelled, though to be honest that Royal pushes almost as easily with those big wheels.

Post# 296719 , Reply# 7   9/2/2014 at 19:05 (3,522 days old) by ronni (USA)        
Re: Reply #5

I do not believe that "castering" is a word. I have only heard the term "caster" when referring to a swiveled wheel; never "castering wheel".

Regarding loose-tension cord retractors (aka cord reels and cord winders), oftentimes a simple repair will "spring" them back to life. This consists of pulling the cord out a couple feet and allowing it to lock, removing the mechanism from the housing, manually wrapping the cord 2-3 times around the reel, and replacing the mechanism (the same principle used with a window shade or wall-mounted movie screen). Additional revolutions may be needed depending on how loose the tension has become; but this should be done in small increments until the desired tension is achieved. Please note that care should taken when removing the mechanism as the spring can on occasion unravel quickly posing a threat to one's body (typically; however, a well-working pawl and ratchet prevents this). Another time-proven industry procedure to help maintain a cord retractor's functionality is to clean the cord with a mild detergent and scrub sponge then dust it with talcum powder as needed. The talcum powder acts as a dry lubricant.


Post# 296732 , Reply# 8   9/2/2014 at 20:12 (3,522 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Ronni, those old Kenmore cord winders can't be disassembled. I've tried. I've even tried pulling the cord all the way out then giving it a couple of more turns to see if that tightens the spring but no luck. After one turn the thing won't go further. When Kenmore reintroduced the Whispertone name on their second generation 5055 bagged canisters they came with a new cord winder that can be disassembled and parts replaced.

Post# 296741 , Reply# 9   9/2/2014 at 20:51 (3,522 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I'll rotate/alternate/swap.

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Or, I'll grab what's handy. never is there a HOOVER far from reach.
Sometimes, I just get in a mood to use a faavorite.
I'm grouping some cleaners that I think are HOOVER'S "finest hour". I'll show you what I consider, "The best of the best"... spanning the decades.


Post# 296758 , Reply# 10   9/2/2014 at 21:52 (3,522 days old) by kenkart ()        
RE Hoovers finest...

I wonder how close my ideas are with yours

1- 150, to my mind, the finest upright ever built.
2-61-62 and 63, along with the 29,. Quality quality quality..
3- The early Constellation, 82, 84 and 85,..beautiful, space age, quality..
4- The first Convertibles, 65-70..Same comments as Constellation..
5- Dial A Matic, Industry changing design, nothing has changed upright vacuums as much since the first model 0, the DAM is a design you could build and sell today that young people would really look at, it was that far ahead..
I have never been a big collector of Hoover until lately, but the more old ones I see , the more impressed I am.


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Post# 296773 , Reply# 11   9/2/2014 at 23:20 (3,522 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Those are lovely Hoovers, Hans! That model 84 is in awesome shape!


Post# 296782 , Reply# 12   9/3/2014 at 01:04 (3,522 days old) by kenkart ()        
I Wonder???

Their were several versions of the 84, I have seen some with a wide band around the top like an 82 had...was mine one of the later ones that were sold as a 2nd line cleaner after the new model came out, Consumer Reports talks of this???

Post# 296804 , Reply# 13   9/3/2014 at 07:37 (3,521 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Hans

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Your Dial A Matic & Constellation makes such a nice vintage cleaning team! Enjoy using them to clean your home for a long time to come.

Rob


Post# 296838 , Reply# 14   9/3/2014 at 11:26 (3,521 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

I'm trying to acquire a Hoover Dimension 1000. I've never seen one in person, just images and studying diagrams. It fascinates me for some reason. I find most Hoover uprights to be horrible, certainly my Hoover Caddy Vac is, but their canister vacs seem as if they came from an entirely different manufacturer. The Dimension 1000 seems to be a complex high end canister vacuum with a parts count that extends beyond 100 where a modern Kenmore or Panasonic canister has a parts count in the 40s typically. I am told they are powerful and quiet machines so I am very interested to get one home and see if they are as nice as they appear to be. The powered floor brush is also supposed to be among the best. But, man, their uprights, at least from the 1990s on, are dreadful things. Maybe the earlier ones were higher quality.

Post# 296855 , Reply# 15   9/3/2014 at 12:57 (3,521 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Most of the old timers know,

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that I ues one of two vintage machines almost exclusively. These are my Electrolux LX, and a Kirby Classic 111. However, as a direct order from John Gottahaveahoove Long, to use a Hoover Vacuum Cleaner, for my birthday, I followed his orders. I brought out a Hoover Aire Dyne, fired it up and cleaned the hardwoods. All my vintage Hoovers are in dire need of restoration. "Paging Dr. Long!" I once had a collection of pristine Hoovers, and with a little TLC, they will be again.

Alex Taber.


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Post# 296893 , Reply# 16   9/3/2014 at 15:20 (3,521 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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I love pulling my vintage machines out, when I get out on of the vintage ones to "play" with I usually do the whole house with it, all of mine are in good enough condition to do that with and I do it as I feel like. One serious hangup is that I have rather serious allergies. I don't mind paper bags and most of my cloth bag machines have bags nice enough not to leak much dust, but emptying them is hell for me, so I tend to use cloth bag machines sparingly, Vintage bagged machines I like to use very regularly would be my AirWay 88 Mk 2, as the bags leak absolutely no dust, a filter queen with cellulose filter cone is good to me too, as are vintage Rainbows and Rexairs get used too, and I love the 913 I bought from Owen Perkins, he put a newer 4 row nylon brush roll, and a 63 bag ring and fill tube, I use HEA F&G bags in it! A lovely vintage one to use with all the cleaning ability and filtration of a modern one!

Of course I also rotate in newer and even brand new high end machines, I can't stand the cheap stuff one bit. To me newer machines have the parts availability so if I wear something out I can replace it with an easy to get part. I also like the filtration, and with all the pet hair I Like machines that make it go away in one pass, but the vintage machines I listed do this well enough to make me happy to use them for daily use as well.


Post# 297097 , Reply# 17   9/4/2014 at 22:58 (3,520 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        
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When its time to clean my house its Compact Electra C9 on the job most of the time .that was until i got my electrolux discovery 2 upright.Depends on the job at hand if a full house clean up is in order compact is what i go for .If a quick and easy mess pick up is in order then its the lux .I alternate between the two .My compact has a new cloth and paper bag so no dust to worry about

Post# 297111 , Reply# 18   9/5/2014 at 00:19 (3,520 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
There are 450+ HOOVER products in my home.

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Some are in better condition than others. BUT, none performs horribly.Here are just a "few"...................

Post# 297113 , Reply# 19   9/5/2014 at 00:22 (3,520 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Here and

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there, well, everywhere, actually.

Post# 297114 , Reply# 20   9/5/2014 at 00:26 (3,520 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
More

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????? ok..............

Post# 297116 , Reply# 21   9/5/2014 at 00:29 (3,520 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I could go on.............. and on..............

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you're invited to plug in any one of them, with a fresh, genuine HOOVER bag, and have a ball vacuuming to your heart's delight.

Post# 297153 , Reply# 22   9/5/2014 at 10:50 (3,519 days old) by jscarlato (Clairton, PA)        

You have a great collection of vintage Hoovers. The only modern-day Hoover shown is the lightweight Platinum bagged upright. I own one also. It's a decent vac, but it does have a couple of shortcomings. For one, because the height is not adjustable, it's not easy to use on thicker carpet. I'm wondering what other folks who have it think of it.

It would be neat for anyone to arrange their whole collection in an outdoor area and take an aerial photo with a camera mounted to a drone.

Joe


Post# 297159 , Reply# 23   9/5/2014 at 12:16 (3,519 days old) by smow69 (Muskogee Oklahoma)        
I like the dial a matic and eureka in my pics

John I love all the hoovers really cool I have a spare bedroom full of vacs.kenkart cool idea for a thread I like the old shampooers also to shampoo with they seem to clean better I have old carpet getting new this month then wont have to shampoo all the time.

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Post# 297205 , Reply# 24   9/5/2014 at 20:25 (3,519 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Electrolux & Compact/TriStar

 

Or that blue Eureka (mine didn't have the vents on top; still looking for that version)

 

Or a Convertible


Post# 297211 , Reply# 25   9/5/2014 at 22:36 (3,519 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)        

Just vacuumed with the Filter Queen D-33, about all I regularly use is that or the Kirby Legend II but the latter is on loan to my parents at present. I believe the FQ is from '82 or so and the Kirby from '89, so they're not exactly old but far from new. Can't think of anything new I'd prefer!


Post# 297234 , Reply# 26   9/6/2014 at 03:48 (3,518 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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I don't mind using vintage machines to clean with, especially since most clean better & are better quality/better motors & constructed. However, having said that, I use them with modern updates. My Electrolux Grand Marquise, which is my daily driver, is a perfect example - it uses the HEPA filtration bags, hose with powerhead on/off switch built in, & the powerhead has the newer-style 48497 10 degree brushroll for the PN5 & PN6, which greatly improves the performance of the Electrolux L shaped PN. I also use aftermarket tools, or tools from other manufacturers where needed, such as using old Kenmore dusting/upholstery/crevice tools, & the Riccar multi-tool that up until recently was sold with their canisters, before the Riccar Prima/Simplicity Wonder was introduced & the Elux-style combo tool was introduced with those models.

Rob



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