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Post# 290309   7/26/2014 at 08:01 (3,533 days old) by tomvacuum10 (Northern Ireland)        

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This is in the new Argos Catalogue

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Post# 290310 , Reply# 1   7/26/2014 at 08:12 (3,533 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Looks like the DC65 is now available in the UK. Just called DC41 MK2

Post# 290311 , Reply# 2   7/26/2014 at 08:15 (3,533 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I see it has energy efficiency ratings & it shows emissions, noise & energy consumption.

Post# 290325 , Reply# 3   7/26/2014 at 10:20 (3,533 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Only the Dyson's have the emission and noise ratings. All other cleaners just have carpet, hard floor and energy ratings. The DC41 mk2 is the only Dyson upright with AAA rating. The rest all have B carpet performance.

Also, for the first since 1986, the bagged Panasonic upright is not included


Post# 290330 , Reply# 4   7/26/2014 at 11:48 (3,533 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Bagged Panasonic..

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.. such a shame, as they are great budget cleaners, even the current overpowered ones. They had them in the clearance sale a few weeks ago, but a local retailer still has them, but how for long? And will they be launching the lower powered ones. I certainly hope so.

 

Just £69.95 - Black - www.sonicdirect.co.uk/Upright-Vac...

 

White - www.sonicdirect.co.uk/Upright-Vac...

 

Jacob

 

PS - The bagged Panasonic was not in the last Argos catalogue either.


Post# 290339 , Reply# 5   7/26/2014 at 12:59 (3,533 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)        
Dyson was very outspoken about their opposition

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over the new energy regulations, and in a matter of months were able to release a new upright that was more energy efficient, and cleans better than their current TOL model. This one has a new brushbar, and looking at it, it looks different (no sole plate gaps?) than both the DC41, and DC65. Look forward to learning more about it!

Post# 290344 , Reply# 6   7/26/2014 at 14:11 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

OMG YAY I am glad the DC33 and D65 is in the UK! (diff name for the DC65) tho but ah well! :)
Thanks so much for sharing, but a bloody expensive vacuum!


Post# 290345 , Reply# 7   7/26/2014 at 14:12 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Oh, it doesn't have beaterbars! :( shame

Post# 290352 , Reply# 8   7/26/2014 at 15:17 (3,533 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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The DC65 is said to be a beast of a vacuum, with terrific pick-up performance and a terrific price to match! I do admire dyson to an extent, their tools are very good and the carbon fibre in the brushroll is something other manufactures are now adopting. This looks quite nice.

The only thing that has ever stopped me getting a dyson during the last 5 years especially is the perceived poor build quality, but other people say they are much more durable than they appear, and are designed not to be completely rigid, I don't know.


Post# 290367 , Reply# 9   7/26/2014 at 17:45 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

The DC41 EA Doesn't look like it has beaterbars :( very different to the DC65, maybe it has stiffer bristles?

Post# 290369 , Reply# 10   7/26/2014 at 17:48 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Of course it does lol

Post# 290370 , Reply# 11   7/26/2014 at 17:52 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Post# 290371 , Reply# 12   7/26/2014 at 17:55 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Post# 290376 , Reply# 13   7/26/2014 at 18:59 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I only see 1 beater (plastic bump, like on a Hoover activator)

Post# 290377 , Reply# 14   7/26/2014 at 19:06 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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You do know that it is a real picture of machine is a computer made picture

Post# 290378 , Reply# 15   7/26/2014 at 19:10 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I can see quite a lot of beater but the very hard to see

Post# 290381 , Reply# 16   7/26/2014 at 19:59 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Yes, I know it's a computer image lol. And will you be getting a DC41 Mk2 soon? That should be better than your DC41

Post# 290382 , Reply# 17   7/26/2014 at 20:04 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I will probably get one but I'm not paying 430 quid outrageous. What do you think of it do you think it will claim better than the DC 25 is proving to clean carpets better than any other vacuum DC 25 doesn't say it PS I don't have my DC 41 sold it to get the brand-new new old Stocks vacuums and PS again I went to curries and the DC 40 bash role is actually stiffer than DC41 surprising that the DC 41 did have longer and more bristles actually DC 40 bristles seem to be a bit more stiffer and then there DC 25

Post# 290384 , Reply# 18   7/26/2014 at 20:14 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Yes, I might be tempted to get the DC41 Mk2, but not at that price! I won't pay more than £250, unless I have a play with one again o remind my self about the build quality. The performance is apparently "outstanding" etc, so I might go for it. BTW how many beaters can you see on the DC41 Mk2?

Post# 290385 , Reply# 19   7/26/2014 at 20:25 (3,533 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Yeah it does look really good but I think it will go down to about 330. What do you think of the build quality I know it feels thin but I think it's not too bad it feels like I can give it a good beating lol it's very hard to see them but I see some like A Hoover TurboPower and looks like a hoover Junior it is hard to tell the not real photos of but is definitely got agitators.

Post# 290408 , Reply# 20   7/26/2014 at 22:18 (3,533 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I think a little flexibility is good, but not too much. For example, the DC14, DC24 and DC25 has some plexible plastic, but were still sturdy an hardly broke physically. I doubt much parts will break on the DC41 (apart from the weak looking joints) it looks nice, but the handle etc is too flexible. It doesn;t feel good, although it is a good vacuum. When I used a DC41, I turned the ball to the right, 90 degrees and the handle, and half of the main body were bending! I do not like the hole in the body that when you take the cyclone off, you can see the hose through the hole. The vacuum needs to be more dense to be more sturdy and durable.
I expect the DC41 EA to have good, big beaterbar which removes a lot of dust.
Powerful suction which is strong enough to lift the carpet up from the head.
A minimum of 2 rows of stiff bristles.
The capability of sticking to hard floors.


Post# 290425 , Reply# 21   7/26/2014 at 23:44 (3,533 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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The only MK.II I'm interested in is the Bison MK.II! laughing


Post# 290509 , Reply# 22   7/27/2014 at 03:14 (3,533 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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I can not see any beater bars or beaters on the DC65 or DC41 mk2 brush roll!? The only different is the brushes are more spiralled around the brush bar. Plus all the brushes are of equal length on this new brush bar not the 2 different lengths as before on the old brush bar on the DC41. I like how Argos on their website has the DC41 mk2 as having variable power! I don't think it does!

Post# 290524 , Reply# 23   7/27/2014 at 09:26 (3,532 days old) by Mieles5380Leo (Virginia)        
Mk2?

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What does mk2 mean? I agree with blakaeg that it's a DC65 with a fancy name. It does have a beater bar. Any vacuum does. Even a $14.99 one does.


Post# 290527 , Reply# 24   7/27/2014 at 10:07 (3,532 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Beater bar...

...refers to the raised metal or plastic bars most commonly seen on the Hoover upright cleaners, made from 1926 onwards. These beater bars worked in tandem with the brush strips - "it beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans".

"Agitator": originally a Hoover term, commonly refers to a brushroll with beater bars in addition to brush strips.

"Brushroll": is just that, a brushroll. Some manufacturers call their brushrolls agitators, despite the lack of beater bars.

"Brushbar": a Dyson term, though others have used it; people seem to confuse with beater bar.

"Activator": a Hoover term; an enhanced agitator which has twin helical brush strips, in addition to redistributed beater bars which now cover the spaces between the brush strips. Essentially, it "reactivates" the flattened carpet pile.



Post# 290528 , Reply# 25   7/27/2014 at 10:16 (3,532 days old) by Mieles5380Leo (Virginia)        

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I never knew that those have different terms. I'm discussed at myself for using improper ' vacuum ' vocabulary. Thanks for the awesome info rolls_rapide!

Post# 290552 , Reply# 26   7/27/2014 at 12:21 (3,532 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Not at all...

... just like everything else in life, nothing is ever simple. Everything seems to be either a maze or a minefield. :-)

Post# 290555 , Reply# 27   7/27/2014 at 13:18 (3,532 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
LOOKING

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Looking in the new Argos Catalogue shows the new Hoover 'Vortex' machines. I'm not sure if it's deliberate but think about it - the new Turbopower, the new Junior, and now, the new Vortex. Are they trying to live up to the standards that those names hold, rekindling customer's memories of machines they had before with those names, and how good they are, thinking that the newer versions with the same name are as good, or even better? It's a clever ploy for Hoover to sell more product's, but hopefully the customer will realize they've been 'had', as such to speak, and invest their money better next time round, which, if they buy a modern Hoover, may not be long at all.

 

Also Hoover are making a big deal about having 'A' rated energy efficiency, making it appear that they have spent ages creating the 'ideal' eco product, whilst really, I highly doubt Hoover would have wanted to stop production of their overpowered unreliable screamers they produced, when really it's the new EU law that flipped the table. Hoover bragging about the new energy claims just shows that they are having to turn to advertising like this, which shows that they are struggling to flog cleaners, in a way. You don't see Miele or Numatic having to make massive claims like this to sell volumes of cleaners.

 

I know this may be my opinion, and the naming thing may just be a coincidence, but that's how I think. Oh, and by the way, if it wasn't clear enough, I don't like modern Hoover cleaners.

 

Hoover. Who better? Lots.

 

Jacob

 

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Post# 290582 , Reply# 28   7/27/2014 at 15:36 (3,532 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
Hoover. Who better? Lots.

100% true, sadly.

Or as the Argos Hoover Shop like to call it 'Over 100 years cleaning experience inside every Hoover product'

Pah!


Post# 290584 , Reply# 29   7/27/2014 at 15:45 (3,532 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Technically...

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Technically its 106 though the last six err... 15 years or so have been terrible. Bring back the Activatior! The Turbopower & Turbomaster! The Junior and the Senior! And the original Vortex, and save one of THE best brands from the pits of household waste centers!


Post# 290588 , Reply# 30   7/27/2014 at 15:56 (3,532 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Sadly though, it's done now, they'll all be filling the ground.

One thing I noticed now, is that Vax only make a couple of Eco direct filter machines, most of them are Single Cyclonic or Multi Cyclonic. That's quite good really, whereas Hoover have just tarted up their Smart machine & sold it under various names, some of which were pretty decent machines in the past.

Tbh Jacob, Hoover were doing OK when the machines were being produced in the E.U. It was just when they decided to move production to China & abolish they're bagged machines (bar the Purepower & Telios) & introduce horrible cleaners such as the Dust Manager, The One & Alyx. That's when they started to go down hill, about 2005 onwards.

Phew, that took about 5 minuted to write :)


Post# 290601 , Reply# 31   7/27/2014 at 16:35 (3,532 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Looking at the online Argos Hoover Vortex...

...with the zoomed in pictures, reveals...

pleated filters?!

Ha! They can keep it!



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