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Post# 289614   7/20/2014 at 19:40 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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SERVICE BULLETIN: JULY 20TH 2014:

 

Greetings, From the Kenmore Restoration Facility of the south-east to our sister-facility in the great north-west!

 

Today's Restoration job is a nice Kenmore 2.5 Canister, in cream!

However, take special note of the unusual powered-hose set-up. Since when did Kenmore run wires on the exterior of the hose?

 

Due to an unscheduled downpour of rain, the usual "Southern Beauty" background was dropped in favor of a plain and old blue sheet.

 

Let's begin! the vacuum came with no power-nozzle.


Post# 289615 , Reply# 1   7/20/2014 at 19:41 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Detail of,

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That hose. One of the wheels is unfortunately cracked, a lot. 


Post# 289616 , Reply# 2   7/20/2014 at 19:42 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Bag compartment,

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With a lovely (And filled) 5045 Genuine Bag! This model does not require one of those infamous red bag holders!


Post# 289617 , Reply# 3   7/20/2014 at 19:43 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
2.5!

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A KENMORE 2.5!


Post# 289618 , Reply# 4   7/20/2014 at 19:44 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
2-Screws later,

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We find this giant 1-Stage motor! note the provision for the cord-winder.


Post# 289619 , Reply# 5   7/20/2014 at 19:45 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Bonus!

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I guess this wiring diagram makes up for all the missing attachments!


Post# 289620 , Reply# 6   7/20/2014 at 19:45 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Wonder why,

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They went with a white and orange cord? 


Post# 289621 , Reply# 7   7/20/2014 at 19:47 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
S.S Kenmore

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Meets it's bubbly demise (Or the grime meets it's demise, i should say!)

 

This is the first vacuum I'm washing the motor in. hope it turns out well!

I'll upload more pictures when i finish it, I need to buy some magic erasers!

 

P.S-Scored an awesome (And heavy!) Penncrest box fan today too!


Post# 289634 , Reply# 8   7/20/2014 at 21:29 (3,559 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Enjoy the reading, dude you are funny! Great work also

Post# 289664 , Reply# 9   7/21/2014 at 02:22 (3,559 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        
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I remember a friend of mine had one just like this , it was the first vacuum that i rebuilt those lil things are tough as nails

Post# 289675 , Reply# 10   7/21/2014 at 09:29 (3,559 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Hmmm, my posts from last night disappeared.

Very nice little vac. I have yet to encounter one in person.

I think two of the vacs on this Sears Catalog page are of the same series as yours.

i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/f...

Tell me the model number, it is probably embossed into the plastic under the body, so I can research it a bit. I think it has a twin from Panasonic.

The 4.0 and 3.5 refer to rated peak horsepower, so yours has a less powerful 2.5 horse motor. From looking at the catalog I am guessing your vac may have been sold as a suction only unit and some owner along the way innovated a little to adapt a powered brush to it.

Alternatively, since these used the old straight end hose, if it had a powered brush a previous owner may have found it impossible to replace a cracked hose with straight ends (they are harder than heck to find, I blinked last week and missed on on eBay, and Kenmore hasn't sold blank two wire hose for a few years now) and likewise innovated. Some central vacs use hoses like that where the powered floor brush plugs directly into a wall socket. I'm thinking that is what you have. Can you show an image of the power plug on the vacuum?

Why didn't you remove the motor before soaking it? The only reason I washed mine was due to major contamination. I usually take the motor, cord reel and any other electrical components out of the vac before I wash them.

New wheels are probably still available from Sears if they are 3 1/2 inch diameter. The part number would be 4147126. They now all come in a very dark charcoal gray (the color used on all the Whispertone series of vacs), so you will have to paint them to match. I have to do this on one of my restorations. If you send me the model number I can confirm this in Sears Parts Direct. Alternatively SweetSweep.com sells the same wheel in a beige or tan color, it's tough to tell from their website so call them and ask.

Neat little vac. I looking forward to seeing it after you restore it. Looks like there is some enthusiasm for Kenmores building here.


Post# 289683 , Reply# 11   7/21/2014 at 11:20 (3,559 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
LOL Tortoise guy,

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Did you think I just threw the entire thing in the bath? tongue-out

I broke the motor down to the armature, field coil and fan assembly, first!

 

Forgot to add: Model no: 116 2525081

Manufactured: March 2nd 1985!

 

The power nozzle port is defiantly not a Jerry-Rig, it is predisposition and wired correctly as other models. The only issue I have with your theory, is that I've never seen a wired hose in cream before!

 

They are the same series, but later. I know because I have that Gray 4.0!

I know what the numbers refer to, If I didn't I wouldn't be founder and CEO of the Kenmore South-East Restoration Facility! tongue-out


Post# 289688 , Reply# 12   7/21/2014 at 12:09 (3,559 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

I just looked that model up in Sears Parts Direct and that is the correct configuration of the hose, with an external wire. I am kind of amazed really. It makes it even more collectable.

The replacement wheel is what I thought, PN 4147126. You can get replacements for your damaged wheels and paint them the correct color.

You really found a little gem.


Post# 289689 , Reply# 13   7/21/2014 at 12:13 (3,559 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

The original power cord and the owners manual are also still available. No cord reel is shown. Does your other one have a cord reel?

Post# 289727 , Reply# 14   7/21/2014 at 17:34 (3,558 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
the 4.1

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Does not have a cord reel. I'll pop in Sears one day and see if they have any in stock!


Post# 289729 , Reply# 15   7/21/2014 at 17:48 (3,558 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Well, about the only cord reels Sears are stocking won't be found in any store. You have to order through Sears Parts Direct and probably innovate some. About the only reels still in their parts system are for current production stuff used in Progressive and Elite Intuition models. I think the pull to retract cord reel for that blue Canadian Kenmore another member posted his restoration of is also available.

You can often find cord reels for Whispertone models on FleaBay, but the older stuff on steel reels and frames used in the 5023/5033 bag machines and my first generation C bag machines requires some skullduggery to obtain. Considering the vintage of your vac, that is probably what fits unless Panasonic used a unique cord reel in those. I have a pair of really nice Whimpertone series cord reels and just my luck they are too wide to fit into the older vacs. Man I was hoping! Save them for any Whimpertones I acquire in the future.

Finding cord reels is probably my third toughest chore, after the infamous red 5023/5033 bag adapter and straigh end Kenmore hoses. I may have found a source for them but won't know until the end of the week perhaps. I ordered something and am waiting to see what shows up. I tried ordering something from Sears over a month ago and it is supposedly back ordered into oblivion.


Post# 289732 , Reply# 16   7/21/2014 at 17:58 (3,558 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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I meant look for the wheels in Sears!

Post# 289739 , Reply# 17   7/21/2014 at 19:46 (3,558 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Interesting machine. The PN cord wrapped around the hose was seen on these and an older body version that was made before this in the late 70s in blue and then early 80s in beige.

I have never seen any of these with a cord winder. The cord was always wrapped underneath the canister on the ones I've seen. My 1991 catalog shows the gray straight suction and PN versions mentioned, and the last Sears catalog I have from 1993 shows a straight suction version that's gray on the bottom and blue on top.

The lady that used to live across the street from me in the 90s had the gray version with PN as well as a Kirby G3! That was the only Kenmore of this type I saw in person.


Post# 289753 , Reply# 18   7/21/2014 at 21:13 (3,558 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

The parts diagram for it's Panasonic twin shows a cord winder as an option. Have a look.

www.hescoinc.com/schematics/panas...

The Pansonice 7300 series, 7400 series, 8300 series and 8400 series had cord winders in at least some models.

Here is the HESCO page for all the Panasonic diagrams. Have fun.

www.hescoinc.com/t/Schematics_Pan...

I suppose a low cost model might have come without a cord winder but it's not obvious in the diagrams.

I think you are thinking of the Singer made Kenmores having the cord wrapped around the bottom.

www.hescoinc.com/schematics/bisse...

You can see DLC 100 and 200 didn't get cord reels while DCL 300 and 400 did. There is a big recess on the bottom of these for the cord while the Panasonics are smooth and round underneath.


Post# 289785 , Reply# 19   7/22/2014 at 00:18 (3,558 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
you bet your bwerk,

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He's not thinking of Singer! Theese canisters have a molded cord-hook on the bottom rear of the canister. The front wheel serves as the secondary cord hook.

Post# 289795 , Reply# 20   7/22/2014 at 07:07 (3,558 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Is this the vac, a Kenmore badged Panasonic 7200 series? Basic shape and everything look right. The shape of the center bulkhead is right, so is the rubber furniture guard.

www.hescoinc.com/schematics/panas...

Sper-sweeper are there hooks to wind the cord up on the bottom?


Post# 289846 , Reply# 21   7/22/2014 at 16:17 (3,557 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Phil, like I said: on the rear bottom of the canister there is a plastic hook. The front steering wheel serves as the secondary hook.I'll take a picture when I get the chance.


Post# 289853 , Reply# 22   7/22/2014 at 18:21 (3,557 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Sounds right. The Panasonic 7200 series I linked too doesn't have a cord reel either. I think it's you vac. It may be the body casting is shared by a more delux model in that series that had a cord reel.

Post# 291302 , Reply# 23   7/31/2014 at 17:37 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Doctor! Get your bwerk in here!

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After a large dose of Mr.Clean Magic-Eraser, and a ton of scrubbing, The Kenmore 2.5 is being released from the Kenmore Southern-States Restoration Facility!

 

Here's some "Before" photos!

 

P.S-I'm trying out another camera, let me know how it works! Our patients require decent photos! tongue-out


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Post# 291304 , Reply# 24   7/31/2014 at 17:40 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
After!

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That motor turned out FLAWLESSLY! I'm washing the motors in all my patients now! tongue-out


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Post# 291305 , Reply# 25   7/31/2014 at 17:41 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Tortoise guy,

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This is how the cord is stored! tongue-out


Post# 291306 , Reply# 26   7/31/2014 at 17:41 (3,548 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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It looks beautimus

Post# 291307 , Reply# 27   7/31/2014 at 17:42 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Last one!

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Since the wheels just pop in, the 2.5 will remain one-wheeled until a replacement can be located! tongue-out


Post# 291308 , Reply# 28   7/31/2014 at 17:43 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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lol thanks Mark! but you replied before i could post the above beauty-shot! tongue-out


Post# 291309 , Reply# 29   7/31/2014 at 17:44 (3,548 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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Always pre-mature lol

Post# 291311 , Reply# 30   7/31/2014 at 18:04 (3,548 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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nice work

Post# 291320 , Reply# 31   7/31/2014 at 18:31 (3,548 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

lovely, if somewhat out of focus.


Post# 291328 , Reply# 32   7/31/2014 at 18:41 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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My camera isn't the best, but it's better than nothing at all! tongue-out


Post# 291330 , Reply# 33   7/31/2014 at 18:44 (3,548 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

That came out really nice! There is something to be said for not having a cord winder to break. Simple is most often better.

Post up some more in focus shots, including some of the motor if you have them and of the bag compartment and a rear shot. What bag does it take btw?

Good job. Keeping the Kenmore flame burning bright.


Post# 291332 , Reply# 34   7/31/2014 at 18:46 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Is takes the 5045 style bag, if i get a better camera i would love to take top-notch photos of everything in my collection! tongue-out


Post# 291333 , Reply# 35   7/31/2014 at 18:50 (3,548 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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We'll go get one, take the pictures return the camera as it didn't meet your expectations!

Post# 291336 , Reply# 36   7/31/2014 at 18:52 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Get my charge card, Mark!! tongue-out


Post# 291337 , Reply# 37   7/31/2014 at 18:52 (3,548 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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Do they take Neimans Marcus??

Post# 291344 , Reply# 38   7/31/2014 at 19:20 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Mark I don't have a clue what that is, but i do know where my charge card is valid! tongue-out


Post# 291345 , Reply# 39   7/31/2014 at 19:26 (3,548 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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Neiman Marcus Saks Fifth Ave those high priced stores who carry my favourite luggage

Post# 291349 , Reply# 40   7/31/2014 at 19:38 (3,548 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Hooray for Department Stores named after their owners! tongue-out


Post# 291392 , Reply# 41   8/1/2014 at 00:40 (3,548 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Ah yes, borrowing stuff from Wally World. I don't but my fiancée is the master.


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