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Translucent Parts - When Did This Become a Thing?
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Post# 288452   7/12/2014 at 20:39 (3,568 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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Nowadays it seems every type of vacuum on the market has some sort of translucent plastic. The two most popular parts, aside from dust bins, seem to be the hood above the brush roll and air paths. The Eureka Smartvac is great example of a model that has both. But after a year or so of use the plastic becomes scratched and filled with dirt, and eventually it looks pretty disgusting. When and why did these parts become for popular? 


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Post# 288475 , Reply# 1   7/12/2014 at 23:18 (3,568 days old) by hooverman2121 (Albany, NY)        

I concur, it's pretty annoying, especially when you want to keep a machine looking new! Plus it's another reason why I'm not a fan of bagless vacs: they look like crap practically as soon as you turn them on!

Post# 288482 , Reply# 2   7/13/2014 at 02:50 (3,567 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I will give you a few examples (You might not like the brand) sorry
1) Dust bins are to see how well the vacuum works, how full it is and if the user has picked up something which they shouldn't have, or if it's an item they have lost.
2) Brushbars can be seen working, or if they look bad when wrapped up in hair etc.
3) The Dyson, let's say DC33 has a clear hose, and clear u-bend to see if it's blocked there.
4) The Dyson DC05 motorhead had a clear top cover which directs the suction from the motor to the cyclone. This is because the filter can be seen if it's dirty etc :) (I think)
Some parts don't really need to be clear, like carry handles although they look funky like that


Post# 288484 , Reply# 3   7/13/2014 at 03:32 (3,567 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Owning a vac shop I have a love hate relationship with the clear brush covers. They look great when new but mean extra cleaning on machines we  repair. ( we send any machine we repair back to the owner in as new condition, The are stripped, washed out, deep scratches sanded out , Buffed till shiny and put back together.) Now these brush covers are often difficult to get to and not easy to shine up ( the bins are easy to shine up) But they do look lovey when all cleaned up.

 

Now The reason behind them is very evident to me. On the many machines with them customers will bring in the machine or come and buy a new belt and say. They see the brush is not spinning.

On machines with out them They bring in the unit saying its not sucking any more. Mean while its the belt that has snapped. 

 

While I do not always like them, I understand them completely. 


Post# 288487 , Reply# 4   7/13/2014 at 04:16 (3,567 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Marketing and Design clearly don't go...

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Well.. speaking as an owner of the Vax Mach Air (Hoover Windtunnel Air to those in the U.S and Canada), I find that clear plastic means one very clear sign - CHEAPER plastics - and most are designed to be replaced, at the cost of the owner.

The Vax Mach Air removable floor head cover is a case in point. This isn't something you want to go chucking around a room, or something you want to stand on. It is fairly cheap and fairly intentionally made out of thin plastic in the hope that you'll have to spend more from Vax to buy a replacement.

Same with their Dyson like copied clear stretch hose.

Infact, when I think about it, Vax already made the Vax Mach Air a bit of a money spinner where that model is concerned, based on the fact that most of its owners are pushed to pay out for the clippable 1.5 metre extension hose since the 1.1 metre one on board is hopelessly too short.

As for bagless bands including Dyson - a shame their dust bins look cloudy over a period of time - totally defeating the purpose of its clear "easy to see" bin when in actual fact it isn't really that easy to see.


Post# 288488 , Reply# 5   7/13/2014 at 04:19 (3,567 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Bagless bands? I meant Bagless brands!

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Infact... when I think about it, it is every possibility that "clear" vacuums became part of the norm when bagless came to market.

The first vacuum I can think of, is the cordless Black and Decker wet and dry dust buster, followed by one that Hoover also made - back in the 1980s?


Post# 288490 , Reply# 6   7/13/2014 at 04:59 (3,567 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The thing I love about the clear bin is as a father of two young sons I can see what has been sucked up by mistake. I can remember my poor father having to sift through cut open paper bags of my moms Moulinex and AEG when my lego got vacuumed up accidentally. 


Post# 288492 , Reply# 7   7/13/2014 at 08:16 (3,567 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Just as an aside comment to add to this discussion: the first time I ever saw translucent plastic on a vac was in the early 1970's, when Sanyo marketed a bagless canister with a translucent removable "dust cassette". I remember seeing both red ones and blue ones.

More recently, I think the trend for bagged vacs was started with the translucent Hoover Powermax canister and the Hoover WindTunnel uprights in the 1990's. I don't know if seeing the dustbag in the canister actually helped you know if it was time for a change, but the clear cover on the WindTunnel brushroll chambers was helpful to see if you had shut it off for barefloor cleaning.


Post# 288539 , Reply# 8   7/13/2014 at 17:32 (3,567 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

It's not confined to vacuums. Have a look.

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Why not vacuums?


Post# 288558 , Reply# 9   7/13/2014 at 19:26 (3,567 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

ook at the Dyson DC02, DC03 and Dc05, fully clear :D

Post# 288592 , Reply# 10   7/14/2014 at 03:46 (3,566 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Another suggestion

It could also be a new way of introducing obsolescence into a product. We all know that anything can be made to last almost a lifetime, regardless of how much it costs or where it's made. That is a fact. But of course manufacturers cannot afford to do that, as a good deal less consumers would continue to buy new goods if their old one carried on working. So they build in failure when designing a new product.

But with failure comes customer disappointment and the potential to boycott that brand. Why did my appliance go wrong so soon? Will I buy that name again? And so on & so forth.

But now a new form of obsolescence is creeping in. A variety which doesn't cause the appliance to break down, but one which does make the appliance look rather scruffy, yet the blame doesn't get passed to the manufacturer, but still the fashion-conscious consumer begins to hanker for a new appliance. In this instance it is the see-through parts which scratch and discolor, or even just get dirty.

Other examples: metal kettles & toasters in a range of bright, fashionable colours, all painted in a way which will scratch very easily, when the user clips the appliance against walls and working surfaces, and of course around the switches, especially if the female user has long nails.

Washing machines, with their instructions written in poor quality ink, on the front of the soap-drawer, this being the one part which gets the most amount of cleaning and thus the letters fall off.

Irons, telephones, and remote controls, where again the numbers are printed in such a way that they soon wear off with use.

Many people might think twice about blaming the manufacturer for this, rather perhaps thinking it was their own fault. It's a very clever strategy.


Post# 288596 , Reply# 11   7/14/2014 at 04:54 (3,566 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes, well noted Benny - also your comment struck a thought from me - those "metal" appliances that aren't metal, but actually chrome, silver painted or the good old fashioned "Black plastic metal," from toys of old made in China back in the 1980s.

One personal gripe of mine are "chrome beaters" with cheap hand mixers. Not all brands do it, but some are still making chrome beaters with their cheaply priced hand mixers, resulting in the chrome eventually breaking down and flaking off into food. Not exactly safe!


Post# 288622 , Reply# 12   7/14/2014 at 12:14 (3,566 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
see through plastic--when??

We could go back to 1958 and the Lewyt 'Power Window' that was a clear window on top of vac looking through a clear plastic window in bag to see when it was filled.Or 1920 and the AirWay Indicator that could show dirt and dust coming off floor or through handle.Or ??

Post# 288641 , Reply# 13   7/14/2014 at 13:56 (3,566 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I agree on a lot of this.

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I DO think some of it is because it's (BOTTOM LINE) C H E A P E R !!
For years, we knew that a belt was worn or broken on a Convertible. We are to be impressed on how much dirt we can see in a cup. I liken it to a cat killing a bird and bringing it home to it's owner. "Look what I did"! Who really wants to see all that dirt?
HOOVER had that hard case Dial A Matic for a lot of reasons. One was to hide the bag.
Today, everything is silver, black, or clear. Or, that funky billious green on those Decade 80 knockoffs.
Remember when a Convertible, Connie, polisher, handivac, etc all matched? If money were no object, you could buy the 'whole set'. Those new Constellations should have been color coordinated to all of those uprights, like the old days. If ye don't think "STYLE" went into old vacuums...............you've never seen a Convertible 69 Neptune green.




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