Thread Number: 25626
What Carpet/Rug Shampooer and/or Extractor Do You Use?
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Post# 287776   7/8/2014 at 14:52 (3,572 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I recently posted a thread dedicated to Electrolux dry-foam carpet shampooers -- namely the Model B-8s but also the newer models since they are very similar.

So, I thought I'd start another thread to survey what machines others use for shampooing or extracting domestic carpets and rugs, how often you use them on average, and how effective they are. Please include larger machines such as the Electrolux Model B-8 or Kirby Rug Renovator, mid-sized machines such as a Hoover Scrub 'n' Vac, or Electrolux Rug Washer, and hand-held units such as the Bissell Spotlifter or Lux Little Pro.


Post# 287785 , Reply# 1   7/8/2014 at 16:03 (3,572 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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I don't know if I can post that here since it's a new machine not vintage

Post# 287790 , Reply# 2   7/8/2014 at 16:35 (3,572 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Good call, but post it in the Contemporary section then.

Post# 287833 , Reply# 3   7/8/2014 at 20:19 (3,571 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
my rugs are always clean,

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With my Classic 1-CR's Rug-Renovator! I have short, plush carpets, and the Rug-Renovator has no trouble making them gleam! Lowest setting on the Toe-Touch and a tank  of properly diluted Kirby shampoo and I'm good to go! I tend to only use the Rug-Renovator when the carpet is in need it a good shampooing!


Post# 287854 , Reply# 4   7/8/2014 at 23:40 (3,571 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

I use the Electrolux Floor Pro, Kirby D50 Rug Renovator, Kirby Sentria II Shampooer and a Bissell Pet extractor. I use the extractor when there is a wet mess or spill and the dry foam the rest of the time. Living with 5 Great Danes I clean the carpets (at least the traffic areas) monthly and sometimes more often if it's wet outside. The dogs day room gets done every week.


Post# 287906 , Reply# 5   7/9/2014 at 11:06 (3,571 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        
Kirby Shampoo system.

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I use my Kirby Sentria's shampoo system on my medium pile plush wall to wall carpet with excellent results every time.


Post# 287924 , Reply# 6   7/9/2014 at 12:29 (3,571 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        
Electeolux floor pro shampooer

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I use my electrolux floor pro shampooer its brand new
works wonders on my floor going to do my carpets
soon .


Post# 287983 , Reply# 7   7/9/2014 at 15:43 (3,571 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for all the replies. So far, I'm impressed with the dry-foam method, too.

Regarding polishing does Aerus still make a floor wax? If so, would you recommend it? What other floor care products have used with your scrubber/polisher that produced good results?

Tom - I've been thinking about the floor scrubbing procedure and wonder if a mop rinse with clean water after pick-up would be necessary to minimize soap residue?

So, the procedure would be:

1) Vacuum

2) Scrub

3) Mop pick-up scrub water

4) Mop rinse with clean water

5) Vacuum

6) Wax/Polish

7) Vacuum?





Post# 287985 , Reply# 8   7/9/2014 at 16:42 (3,571 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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I use a 1976 Thermax built Rinse'N'Vac with a newer 60psi pump. I use the Riccar shampoo and spot cleaners and it works great.

Post# 287995 , Reply# 9   7/9/2014 at 18:31 (3,571 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

I use a teal-colored Model B-8 for scrubbing, buffing, and shampooing; a Model 1739 Epic Series (doesn't say "Floor Pro" anywhere on the machine--only in the manual ... weird) for nap lifting, and a Rug Washer (teal cover and base that went with the teal Model 1205s) for rugs and mats.

My Rug Washer manual states to treat stains with a damp cloth dipped in the Turbo shampoo solution, but the Model 1739 (later model) doesn't; instead it infers that one should go over an stained area twice with the machine. So, does it work on most stains, or would you suggest that I get a product specifically for treating stains? I'm trying to be proactive! The 1739's manual does mention an Electrolux Carpet Medic Kit and warns that carpet fibers may be damaged from additional scrubbing of coffee and dye stains.


Post# 287998 , Reply# 10   7/9/2014 at 18:57 (3,571 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
I use an...

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Electrolux Floor Pro with Turbo Shampoo and Naplifters after shampooing. Once in a while I use the Kirby Shampooer although I find it a bit awkward to use, especially in small spaces....Both do a very good job......


PR-21


Post# 288001 , Reply# 11   7/9/2014 at 19:47 (3,570 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

Aerus does still make both a wood floor wax and a tile floor polish. Both are quite good products. 

 

You've got the sequence right, the only one not necessary is the last. As long as you don't use too much wax/polish you should be done at that point.


Post# 288027 , Reply# 12   7/10/2014 at 01:59 (3,570 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)        
I personally use

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a Hoover SteamVac with Cleansurge. It's the classic extractor style with SpinScrub brushes. Cleans like nothing else. Scrubs the hell out of the carpet, and because it has so much suction, the carpet dries in 30 minutes. I'd say it's got as much suction as some of my vacuums! Bissell ProHeat extractors don't come anywhere close!

Post# 288029 , Reply# 13   7/10/2014 at 03:43 (3,570 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Kirby Sentria-or Host dry cleaner.Both work well.

Post# 288052 , Reply# 14   7/10/2014 at 10:20 (3,570 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
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Depends on the job really

For any spot cleaning i use a hoover steamvac JR
For larger areas i start off using an electrolux with a mixture of soap and water to pre scrub the area, lately i've been using lindhaus's Extract'aire cleaner, followed by a scrub and rinse with a hoover steamvac

Eventually i'd like to replace the lux and hoover with one of the newer bissell big green proffessionals


Post# 288120 , Reply# 15   7/10/2014 at 19:36 (3,570 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for confirming the scrubbing process, Tom. The reason I put #7 was because sometimes polishing with a rotary machine will leave behind some dust. Interestingly, another thread about a vacuum polisher was posted in which was stated that the vacuum and polisher work simultaneously for that very reason. I suppose machines with higher rpms as well as certain kinds of buffing pads would increase the need for vacuuming after polishing.

In reading through the Model LX manual, another method of shampooing (prior to the Model B-8/Carpet Beautifier's introduction in 1965) was using the Electrolux sprayer to spray carpets and rugs with Nuvo Shampoo. The manual mentioned that detailed instructions would come with the shampoo, so I'm uncertain if the air-powered floor scrubber & polisher at that time would have had a carpet/rug brush or not.

Regarding the Turbo Rug Washer, as the new plastic ones were called that replaced the metal Turbotool with Rug Washer attachment, I thought it premiered in 1962. However, both my 1960 Model G manual and my 1960 Model R manual picture the newer plastic version. I suppose that could be another case (as is the case with the tan Model G's 1964 copyrighted manual which should have been 1966) of not changing the copyright on what were actually 1962 updated manuals. Anyway, those manuals do not picture the use of the Electrolux sprayer with Nuvo Shampoo--only the use of the Rug Washer. The Model B-8 at that time was only used as a scrubber/polisher--it was not convertible to a shampooer.


Post# 288180 , Reply# 16   7/11/2014 at 09:37 (3,569 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
shampooing

The Turbo tool floor polisher would not have had a carpet brush until the small rug washer attachment was available with the AF.
Any B-8 after the T handle could be converted to shampoo be using a service dept template to drill hole and change bottom plate.Then 2 tabs mounted to handle as seen on a recent polisher thread to mount tank.


Post# 288309 , Reply# 17   7/11/2014 at 20:47 (3,568 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Then how do you suppose the carpets were cleaned with Nuvo Shampoo, Jimmy? I took for granted that Nuvo was not a dry-foam product but perhaps it was and was just allowed to dry before vacuuming. It doesn't seem like it would be that effective, though, without some type of method to help it bond with the dirt. The other possibility is that the same scrubbing and polishing brush on the air-powered unit was used on the carpets.

Post# 288310 , Reply# 18   7/11/2014 at 21:00 (3,568 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Tom,

In reading a B-8 manual I discovered no. 6 of the floor refinishing procedure (in reply #7) would be "polish", followed by no. 7 with "buff" and the as necessary no. 8 of a final "vacuum".

I mention it mainly to clarify for others, because I'm sure you know the procedure like the back of your hand.

I'm thinking it would be a good idea for Aerus to post online videos--either on its website, on Youtube, or both--of how to use and care for its machines as another form of reference besides the manuals. What do you think about that?


Post# 288315 , Reply# 19   7/11/2014 at 21:30 (3,568 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

ronni,

 

I think it's a great idea, but I don't think it will happen unless the company goes through a major change in it's approach to customers. There is some ridiculous notion that customers should only get information if they ask for it, and only from their local franchise. Even their web site is very poorly designed and provides only the bare minimum of information, such a wasted opportunity. I think Mr. Urso is still struggling with promoting a going concern rather than dismantling companies and stripping assets. I do give him credit for not following through with his original intention of selling off all the assets to the highest bidder. I even understand that selling the name rights back to Electrolux A.B. was probably necessary to raise the capital to save the company. But not promoting the company and raising consumer awareness and helping to them to transition their loyalty to the new name was another misstep and lost opportunity. Most people still think that the products available at the big box retailers are produced by the same company as the machine their grandmother owned. Electrolux A.B. has even said as much in it's marketing (and there is some small kernel of truth to the statement). As far as the general population is concerned, Aerus is a new player in the market trying to imitate Electrolux USA much like Perfect has done... and even Perfect does a better job marketing their product. Aerus doesn't advertise, makes getting information incredibly difficult, no longer offers any standardized training materials and has the most bizarre franchise agreement out there.... and in spite of themselves there are still great products and some great franchises, but overall the focus just isn't there. I hope that changes, and soon.


Post# 288323 , Reply# 20   7/11/2014 at 21:52 (3,568 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for the affirmation of my idea, Tom. I thought I'd put it out there even if it is a long-shot that Aerus would do it. I know you're an ideas person and have a strong business acumen, so I also thought that if you ever become a franchise owner you could implement the idea--posting your videos on Youtube.

While I'm not as acquainted with Aerus's business practices as you are as an associate I will say that I'm not surprised by what you've said. I have not been impressed overall with my dealings with franchises or the head office when seeking answers to my questions or even finding information on their website. I also don't like how prices fluctuate from one franchise to another which I suppose is why there are no product prices on the website. Furthermore, I don't like the idea that one person can get a better price on a cleaner just because he or she is better at negotiating. I'd be upset if I discovered that another person paid substantially less than I did for the same product!

I agree that Aerus has some good equipment and cleaning agents, but I also do not feel the company will be able to continue long with its current business practices. The lack of training is very evident, but I have also been surprised to observe some old-timers (who have told me that they've been around since the Electrolux days) who are anything but professional. For instance, one time when i was in a franchise, the owner (a 40-year veteran) excused himself to ball out someone who had parked in a reserved parking place in front of the store. I can't imagine that person would have wanted to be a customer after that episode! Then, when he dealt with me he put me down when I told him I was a collector and was looking for parts; saying it was a waste of time and that I should buy a current model that could handle the modern-day types of carpeting. He was one of those slick, fast talkers, so I eventually saw that he was only out to manipulate me into buying what he wanted me to have and made an excuse to leave. I haven't returned since, and I won't as long as he's around.


Post# 288338 , Reply# 21   7/11/2014 at 22:44 (3,568 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()        

Ronni,

 

There are great franchisees, great salesmen and great service managers out there. They just seem to be few and far between. There are way too many of the 'used car salesmen' type in my, not so humble, opinion. The pricing variation is one very telling points of how poorly Aerus enforces it's policies with the franchisees and how much they've lost control of the business. There are some fairly clear pricing instructions, but they aren't enforced. My own franchisee sells many products at above the maximum pricing allowed ( I don't, and won't and in fact have only sold one at Maximum and that was to a customer who flat out told me what he was going to pay and to take it or leave it.  If he'd waited about 5 minutes, and not been such an ass, he'd have saved about $500). There are also franchisees who sell over the internet, despite being forbidden to do so in their franchise agreement and poach sales in areas outside their franchise boundaries, and at greatly reduced pricing, knowing that someone else will get stuck with any warranty repairs. Enforcement of the agreements and pricing policy would go along way to restoring the company to what it once was.


Post# 288341 , Reply# 22   7/11/2014 at 23:32 (3,568 days old) by ronni (USA)        

You make some valid and well thought-out points, Tom. I imagine that there are good Aerus salespersons and franchises out there like you and John (tig21er), but unfortunately I haven't met them personally.

It's too bad that Corporate has lost its control on some of the franchises, and yet it sounds as though it has allowed it to happen. I wonder when/if the executives will start shaping things up. They must be out of touch with the situation; otherwise, it's hard to comprehend why they would permit some of the business practices to continue as they do. It seems as though they are relying on customers' brand loyalty too heavily (even though they changed the actual name). However, in another decade or two many of those who are loyal to Electrolux USA will be gone, will be living in places in which they don't need their own vacuum cleaners, or in smaller places that don't require the rigor of an advanced model to do an adequate job. Younger consumers don't seem to be as brand loyal--especially in this economy.

Hopefully, someone will wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late.


Post# 288388 , Reply# 23   7/12/2014 at 12:22 (3,568 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
vintage carpet cleaning

Nuvo and other brands were probably sprayed(wet suds) from the glass jar sprayer with hose on exhaust.Some vac instructions would suggest working in with floor brush connected only to 2 wands or with wands connected to hose on blower to speed drying.

Post# 288585 , Reply# 24   7/14/2014 at 00:04 (3,566 days old) by grahamwright ()        
Carpet cleaning

To clean the Custom rugs of my home, I try to make use of diswashing detergent and then vacuum it regularly.. Sometimes, In six to eight months I use to call the professional carpet cleaners to clean it..

Post# 288586 , Reply# 25   7/14/2014 at 00:07 (3,566 days old) by grahamwright ()        

I also foubd some good tricks for cleaning the carpets at this site www.nourisonhospitality.com...


Post# 289522 , Reply# 26   7/20/2014 at 03:07 (3,560 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)        
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Nothings beats my brand new in box whit all the brushes and owners maual
Electrolux Floor Pro shampooer by Aerus Electrolux that thigns make my tile floor sine like new evry time goign to shampoo my carpet this week or next week cant wait to see my livign room medium pile carpet look like new . ill have to post before and afther pic



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