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Post# 287526   7/6/2014 at 20:17 (3,572 days old) by firebirdman55 (Owensboro Kentucky)   |   | |
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I have been wondering lately...which is more preferred for you all...an upright or canister?
For me personally, I prefer uprights. I have never liked canister vacs. I find them annoying for me to use. I wouldn't trade any of my Kirbys, Eureka uprights, or Hoover Convertible for anything. On the other hand, I have heard many people say they prefer canisters. What are the pros and cons of each to you? |
Post# 287527 , Reply# 1   7/6/2014 at 20:31 (3,572 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I need both: an upright for deep cleaning of carpets and a canister for everything else. After years of trying out power nozzle canisters and uprights with on-board tools, I think you get better performance and actually less problems with a pair of vacs. And often for less money than an overly-complicated, bulky, heavy, cumbersome combination vac. Just my preference.
My current dynamic duo is a great pair: Hoover's Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright (CAD$340 on sale at Sears Canada), and Miele's S2 Contour/Olympus suction only canister (CAD$350 on sale at Canadian Tire with Mini Turbo included). When it comes to vacs, I say "keep it simple"! |
Post# 287536 , Reply# 3   7/6/2014 at 22:18 (3,572 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Kirby is the only way to go...I needn't say more.
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Post# 287538 , Reply# 4   7/6/2014 at 22:30 (3,572 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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While I collect both, I prefer a power nozzle canister with a long hose. The power nozzle fits into tight spaces easily, and is easier to push than many uprights. The long hose means the canister doesn't need to be pulled as much and is out of the way. And the attachments are already there and effective.
Uprights, especially modern ones can be bulky and hard to manuever. The onboard hoses are often nearly impossible to use because the stretch hoses tend to spring back and pull the machine over or if not stretch type they are short. And in any case with onboard tools it is harder to move the vacuum around while using the hose than a canister. These tools and hoses seem to be for smaller jobs rather than dusting a whole room, though it can be done. Most of the older pan converter machines did allow the machine to be pulled however. So that's my take. Sometimes I use both to clean but find it's quicker to use one machine that can do it all and be done. |
Post# 287545 , Reply# 5   7/6/2014 at 23:22 (3,572 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 287551 , Reply# 6   7/6/2014 at 23:42 (3,572 days old) by sries (Tacoma WA)   |   | |
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Post# 287563 , Reply# 7   7/7/2014 at 00:38 (3,572 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 287591 , Reply# 9   7/7/2014 at 07:07 (3,572 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Although I have both, I prefer a cannister. Normally when I vacuum I am doing bare floors, carpet and above the floor cleaning all at the same time so it is much easier to switch between attachments. Also as others have stated, a cannister power head fits easier into tighter quarters than say a Kirby (which I also have). If I am just doing a quick vacuum of the carpet then I will get out the Kirby.
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Post# 287594 , Reply# 10   7/7/2014 at 07:30 (3,572 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)   |   | |
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You know, I think John Long touched on a very good point....a lot of one's personal preference depends on what you grew up with. I personally grew up with an Electrolux Olympia One canister vac with a power nozzle. My mom swore by them and I have to say that old vac stood the test of time at our house, in fact I STILL have it and it's running as good now as it did in 1980 when she bought it! When I bought my first house, it had a combo of carpeting and linoleum flooring and I preferred to use a combo of an upright and a canister. I had a classic Hoover Convertible for my carpets (and a Kirby G5) and of course an Electrolux Silverado for my hard surfaces, although I would on occasion hook up the PN and use it on carpeting too if I was too lazy to pull out the Convertible!
Jump forward to my current house, it's all hardwood/laminate and I prefer a canister vacuum all the way as my uprights just don't fair too well on that type of flooring (I found that out the hard way last weekend when I attempted to cheat and use my Kirby G6 in the kitchen!) I still collect both types of vacuums and absolutely love the styling of both, but for my use, I'll reach for a canister anytime over an upright! |
Post# 287596 , Reply# 11   7/7/2014 at 07:32 (3,572 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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I'm a Kirby guy so I prefer a upright. Especially with the Kirby being as versatile as it is I can quickly clean all my surfaces and deep clean my carpets. I do like cylinder/canister vacs. I do find the ones with electric hoses and electric power heads heavier and bulkier to use. But as a collector I like them. Especially the straight suction Electroluxs I grew up with.
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Post# 287772 , Reply# 13   7/8/2014 at 13:43 (3,571 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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I grew up whit a Hoover Celebrity II canister vacuum so for me using a canister is no problem .Now i use my Trusty Compact C9 and i love that machine my grand ma use to have one now i have my own .I also own a Electrolux upright Discovery II .
Canister are a breeze for me to use i have floor and carpet so i can switch betwen floor and carpet easy whit the compact and the power brush deep clean very well.My electrolux clean good to as mention up right hose are short and hard to use whit out tiping the vac over found the out whit a bissel up right . Canister like Filter Queen Electrolux and Compact Tristar and Eureka have strong suction and deep cleaning power head my go to for me but evry now and then the lux gets a go at the whole house does quite well .So for me it depends on the job . MY DAYLY DRIVERS as i call em lol are my trusty compact and the lux upright whole house = compact , quick carpet pass = lux and some time whole house Honestly im divided i like both |
Post# 287773 , Reply# 14   7/8/2014 at 14:10 (3,571 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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For me I like both, but now the house we live in is mainly hardwood with area rugs.
So for now, a canister with a power head works the best. It amazes me how so many vacuum companies now claim that their upright is capable of bare floor cleaning and good attachment usage. None of which is remotely close to being true. Kirby and Royal offer great above the floor and hardwood floor cleaning with their attachments, so I use both when I feel like using an upright. Sometimes it is fun to use a Hoover Dial-A-Matic as well. Not fond of Hoover tools, but the novelty of it makes it fun. All new vacuums have cheapened tools and hoses to a point of being almost useless. Stretch hoses, telescoping wands, combination dusting and upholstery tools that are worthless, plastic bristles that scratch the furniture....oh my rant could go on and on... To sum it up,.....depends on my mood and what I feel like using at the time. If I only had one vacuum, it would more than likely be a Kirby if the house is wall to wall carpet, I would love an Aerus Platinum if I had mainly hardwood and area rugs. |
Post# 287774 , Reply# 15   7/8/2014 at 14:34 (3,571 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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I just had new wall to wall carpeting installed on the entire main floor (entrance stairs, dining/living room, hallway and 2 bedrooms) of my house about a month ago. I have both a Kirby and a Aerus Guardian Platinum. I have used both on the carpet and must say I much prefer the Platinum. It leaves better carpet tracks which I like and grooms the carpet well. I find that the Kirby, because it is so heavy, leaves wheel marks on the carpeting from the rear drive wheels even when finishing with a back stroke.
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Post# 287781 , Reply# 18   7/8/2014 at 15:55 (3,570 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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To see how bad the new stuff is, Is use a AirWay with the metal tools they used to come with!!Compare that to the junk sold today! |
Post# 287784 , Reply# 19   7/8/2014 at 16:01 (3,570 days old) by marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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Post# 287802 , Reply# 20   7/8/2014 at 17:44 (3,570 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)   |   | |
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I use a nice, powerful, lightweight upright for 90% of our floors, but a tiny Electrolux Ultra Quiet canister to get under bookcases and what-not. I can see how that canister is going to meet its end. It will probably be thrown out a window! I get so annoyed when it gets hung up around a corner, or snagged on one thing or another. I just want grab the hose with both hands and yank the snot out of it! Grrrrrrrrrrr...
How anybody can tolerate that to do their whole house is beyond me! |
Post# 287810 , Reply# 21   7/8/2014 at 18:19 (3,570 days old) by ronni (USA)   |   | |
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I sometimes use the handle to carry or hold the canister when vacuuming in smaller quarters or around corners. All of the cleaners--canisters, tanks, and uprights--have their disadvantages along with their advantages. |
Post# 287815 , Reply# 22   7/8/2014 at 18:31 (3,570 days old) by kirbybag (topeka ks )   |   | |
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Post# 287839 , Reply# 23   7/8/2014 at 21:20 (3,570 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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And Hans, I agree with you 100%! You hit the nail right on the head--a tank is a tank and a canister is a canister! I like and use all three kinds, but probably use the uprights more often because of carpeting in our home, especially my 903 Electro-Hygiene. I also use my Electrolux G with power nozzle frequently. And of course, I always use a tank or canister to vacuum the car.
And for those of you who still don't get it, these are TANKS! Jeff |
Post# 287841 , Reply# 24   7/8/2014 at 21:30 (3,570 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 287855 , Reply# 25   7/9/2014 at 00:05 (3,570 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 287903 , Reply# 26   7/9/2014 at 10:59 (3,570 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 287958 , Reply# 28   7/9/2014 at 14:34 (3,570 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 288009 , Reply# 29   7/9/2014 at 22:35 (3,569 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 288025 , Reply# 31   7/10/2014 at 01:34 (3,569 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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I would like to add a little addendum to ( sptyks )'s deep insight into the magnificent design of the Kirby. For instance, its simple tool application is but mere child's play - so easy to use. If you desire a canister...Presto, you have one! If you want to maintain an upright, you don't have to do anything at all. Kirby is such a powerful, versatile/multipurpose machine, and it does what it supposed to do so very well - truly, a great vacuum!
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Post# 288035 , Reply# 32   7/10/2014 at 07:48 (3,569 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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For me, as much as I have upright vacuums & use them, I prefer a canister vacuum with a PN for daily cleaning. Being an apartment dweller, canister vacuums are just more practical! A lot easier to get under & around furniture, easier to use hose, wands & attachments to clean high places, & cleans hard floors easier & with less fuss than dealing with an upright's powerhead & stopping the brushroll, or converting the hose to use with a wand & floor brush. Also, being an apartment dweller, a canister can more easily taken to a new place & be used than an upright can. What if your new apartment has all hardwood floors? You're out of luck there if you have an upright!
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Post# 288042 , Reply# 34   7/10/2014 at 09:29 (3,569 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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While I have a large collection of uprights, I simply prefer a canister for its versatility. I grew up with a Rainbow and an Electrolux. My mother believed uprights were useless. A neighbor bought a Dual 80 Kirby when I was a kid. We went over to look at it. While the neighbor made us some tea, my mother commented "that thing is worthless". I asked "why". She smacked the lady's sofa, and dust rose up. Triumphant, my mother said "See, worthless". I've hated Kirby vacuums ever since.
When we got home, my mother smacked our sofa, and nothing happened. The Rainbow salesman told her when she bought the cleaner to use the upholstery tool on the sofa EVERY TIME she came to it while cleaning. She used all her attachments, especially the dusting brush and crevice tool. She mopped the kitchen with the Rainbow and the bare floor tool. As an adult, I got into uprights for their quick carpet cleaning. But I've always felt they lacked something. While I still love the Rainbow, I also like the new Sirena (it's VERY good). The Filter Queen and Tri-Star are also favorites. Hoover's heart was never in canisters, still waiting for them to make a really good one. I love Electrolux, so easy to use and a very high quality machine. My absolute favorite bagged vacuum to use of all time, is a Signature Series Air-Way Sanitizor. Overall, if I had to pick one vacuum (canister) to use for the rest of my life, I'd probably pick a Rainbow. There's nothing it cannot do.
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Post# 288044 , Reply# 35   7/10/2014 at 09:45 (3,569 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 288060 , Reply# 37   7/10/2014 at 11:52 (3,569 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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No matter the job, I love a power nozzle canister. Whether it's a quick cleaning or full detail. I can buzz around quick. There are times I'll do an upright but mostly I'm canister. I've been using them for so long it takes seconds to switch from power nozzle to attachments and also setting up or breaking down to put cord away. I love the cord winder feature.
The main things I love is that a canister with good hose length gives the ability to clean lots of area with only maneuvering an approximate 1.25" wand along beds, furniture and other things. I don't like the bulk of pushing around uprights especially many of the Sharks and Dysons on the market now. I really don't like maneuvering a Kirby either, with the power drive and all the settings. On a canister I don't have to tap the handle release pedal a 2nd time to go all the way down to the floor. I can maneuver under dining room chairs, coffee tables and beds with great ease and I feel it's a very thorough clean just depends on the machine. I particularly love Hoover canisters, Eureka RotoMatic power teams, Riccar full size power nozzle machines and Rainbow E2 new version with LED headlights and swivel steering. Kenmore canisters I don't do as well with because the CenTec power heads don't allow the wand to go all the way down to the floor with out the agitator lifting up. I also don't like the bare floor brush that comes on the Kenmore canisters. |
Post# 288062 , Reply# 38   7/10/2014 at 11:54 (3,569 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 288089 , Reply# 41   7/10/2014 at 16:02 (3,568 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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Since I have 70% hardwood and 30% carpet, and there is absolutely no other way to clean above the floor but too vacuum, canister(tank) for me. |
Post# 288096 , Reply# 42   7/10/2014 at 16:33 (3,568 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 288158 , Reply# 45   7/11/2014 at 01:05 (3,568 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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I apologize for my Kirby jibber-jabber, earlier. But I received some dyer news from my Internist, just today! He informed me that I had the most severe case of Kirbyitis he had ever seen in all of his 40 plus yrs. of practicing medicine. Of which he further stated, " There is no known cure!" But there is consolation, for it was entirely treatable, and what follows is what he prescribed, " You must acquire more and more Kirbys if you wish to stay alive!" Most happily, I must undergo this therapy for the remainder of my natural life. Now, as I'm inclined to think, it seems that most are afflicted to some degree with this very disorder, and if you need any further proof: forums like this exist.
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Post# 288171 , Reply# 46   7/11/2014 at 06:24 (3,568 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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This is my strategy for using my "canister + upright" duo to clean a room: I use my lightweight, suction only canister (with lightweight hose and simple non-bulky handle) to clean the room from top to bottom. Then I use my lightweight, low wattage, fan-first Hoover upright to finish the job by deep cleaning the carpets. For the carpets, I begin in the far end of the room and work backwards so that I don't leave any footprints and so that the vac cleans up any dirt from my shoes.
I find it very difficult to work backwards with a power nozzle canister: you are always repositioning the main unit so that you don't trip over it as work backwards over the carpet. To me canisters are meant to trail behind you as you move forward - they are not meant for vacuuming as you "back out of" a room. Again, just my preference. :-) |
Post# 288177 , Reply# 47   7/11/2014 at 08:53 (3,568 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 288189 , Reply# 49   7/11/2014 at 10:08 (3,568 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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Calem,
I appreciate your enthusiasm for Kirby, just got a bit perturbed seeing it in every other post. My apologies for posting after a particularly trying day, I should have refrained.
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Post# 288201 , Reply# 51   7/11/2014 at 10:53 (3,568 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 288222 , Reply# 52   7/11/2014 at 13:43 (3,568 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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That's quite all right, no harm done. As you most probably already know, I collect primarily Kirby vacuums. I must confess, I leave one of them in its canister mode all the time. Why, I even have one dedicated to my sanding wheel, which also serves as a shop-vac. After vacuuming for yrs. with expensive junk, to no avail, I bought my first Kirby, and I've been hooked ever since. I'm just so glad, when I was a child, I didn't have a parent or someone prejudice me against such a fine machine. I never had any interest in vacuums, I just shell out a couple of hundred bucks every other yr. and simply buy a new "fiasco" , and think no more of it. But all that has changed now, and this time for the better!
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Post# 288370 , Reply# 53   7/12/2014 at 10:03 (3,567 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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I have a brand-new (from last summer) Aerus Guardian Platinum canister which I love (LOOOOOVE being able to get the power nozzle under all my furniture without having to move it), the 8-speed motor for variable dusting, and the ease of switching attachments.
BUT .. the power nozzle just doesn't give me the deep-cleaning in my plush wool rugs that my Kirby D80 gives me. I feel like I have the best of both worlds now. And the D80 is the newest of the "smaller" Kirbys; the 13-inch nozzle is downright diminutive compared to the much bulkier 16-inch post-1969 nozzles, and maneuvers just as easily as any other upright in my small-ish apartment. |
Post# 288372 , Reply# 54   7/12/2014 at 10:21 (3,567 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 291291 , Reply# 57   7/31/2014 at 17:02 (3,547 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 291313 , Reply# 59   7/31/2014 at 18:17 (3,547 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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--CASE OF TANK VS. CANISTER-- -Kirby County Court House- -July 31st,2014-
Judge Sanitronic has ruled the following:
--TANK TYPE CLEANERS-
Royal-Aire cleaners Royal "Pony" type cleaners G-E Canisters made prior to 1955 Kenmore "Kenkart" and "Commander" Series Electrolux cleaners (Excluding model CB and CA)
--CANISTER TYPE CLEANERS--
G-E "Roll-Easy" cleaners G-E "Swivel-Top" cleaners Electrolux models CA and CB Filter-Queen cleaners (Excluding that one upright model) Compact/Revelation/Tri-Star cleaners Kenmore "Whispertone","Duo-Power", and other models
--UPRIGHTS-- If the court needs to explain this to you, the court will fine you the amount of change found in your Kirby's handle.
The court rules that Tank type cleaners are defined by the following characteristics:
The court rules that Canister type cleaners are defined by the following characteristics:
All answers above were decided in a court of Kirby law, in a jury made of vintage Kirby models.If you have any questions, comments or concerns, call us at 5-5701, or write to:
KIRBY COUNTY COURT-HOUSE 215 Scuttle Ave. Jacksonville, FL.
Our lovely Secretary Super-Sweep will ensure your letter is handed carefully to our judges. Overnight shipping is available with Sweet-Aire Airmail.Thanks for viewing this court case, have a Kirby day!
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Post# 291352 , Reply# 61   7/31/2014 at 20:15 (3,547 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 291353 , Reply# 62   7/31/2014 at 20:17 (3,547 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 291357 , Reply# 63   7/31/2014 at 20:47 (3,547 days old) by singerman (Missouri)   |   | |
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Post# 291388 , Reply# 64   8/1/2014 at 00:30 (3,547 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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I think you've violated one of Einstein's Laws of Relativity, regarding the positioning of the viewer to the object in motion. The definition would indeed be relative, and therefore anything's true definition would be amorphous. It would be a fluid construct viewed differently from each perspective along the canister/tank's path.
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Post# 291391 , Reply# 65   8/1/2014 at 00:37 (3,547 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 291521 , Reply# 71   8/1/2014 at 22:38 (3,546 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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