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Thread Number: 25503
The Ultimate Fantom VS. Dyson Challange! |
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| Post# 286506 6/27/2014 at 23:28 (3,589 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
 Good Morning VacuumLanders! Does anyone here remember the video I planned to make about putting a Fantom Thunder up against a Dyson DC07? Well I did that today! And with some some-what nice editing later, I have a motion picture online! It even comes with vintage opening music! yay!
For the non-spoiler view, Don't read anything below this, click on the link while you still can!
As usual, The Fantom beat the DC07 (Even with the filters freshly washed!) and deep-down, scrubbed-in dirt removal, even though The Fantom broke some plastic off the cyclone the day before (The Plastic is starting to become brittle in the funnel, but still performs like a champ!). The Dyson has broken EVERYTHING plastic it can, I had to manually hold the wand and tank to the vacuum to make it work! it even broke ANOTHER chunk of plastic off the carry-handle While filming!
Have fun! CLICK HERE TO GO TO super-sweeper's LINK | ||
| Post# 286517 , Reply# 2 6/28/2014 at 07:38 (3,588 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
THAT IS SOO UNUSUAL!!!  | ||
| Post# 286518 , Reply# 3 6/28/2014 at 08:41 (3,588 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I never thought of that
At work, we have a testing laboratory for vacuum cleaners. A mechanical arm pushes a vacuum across brand-new sections of carpet with a measured amount of dirt in them. After a preset number of cleaning strokes, the carpet is then weighed and the difference between the weight before vacuuming and the weight after vacuuming determines the percentage of dirt removed. It would be fun to use a new fantom thunder, which I own, against a new Dyson DC07 which I also own. It's a very scientific way to determine actual cleaning effectiveness. I think I will just have to make a video. Don't know which one will win, because the thunder has a brush roll that is very substantial. I might just have to pair the thunder up with a DC 17 absolute. I think the absolute would win hands down
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| Post# 286519 , Reply# 4 6/28/2014 at 08:45 (3,588 days old) by tig21er (Indiana) | ||
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parwaz786 said the DC07 had 330 airwatts power. Spec sheets show 245. | ||
| Post# 286520 , Reply# 5 6/28/2014 at 09:01 (3,588 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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I never rig my tests! | ||
| Post# 286524 , Reply# 7 6/28/2014 at 09:35 (3,588 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 286530 , Reply# 9 6/28/2014 at 10:15 (3,588 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 286544 , Reply# 10 6/28/2014 at 12:32 (3,588 days old) by niclonnic (Bonney Lake, WA) | ||
That's very unusual
My DC07 Animal still performs like a champ after 6.5 years. Mine is a 2007 model, and hasn't broken a BIT throughout the years. It still has the same suction and cleaning performance from day one. If I were to hit a Dyson with a hammer, it would bounce right off.
Fantom, on the other hand, used Dyson's patents, such as the dual cyclonic technology and instant release wand with automatic conversion, and paid Dyson to use them. However, due to a disagreement between Dyson and Fantom, Fantom suffered from a HUGE decline and filed for bankruptcy in late 2001. I've heard on YouTube that Fantoms tend to have low suction through the hose, likely because they haven't been run in years. I've also heard that Fantoms should be broken in, by using it as your daily driver. Usually afterwards, the suction goes up dramatically. I did a similar test between my Dyson DC07 and my Hoover Windtunnel 2 Rewind Pet. I vacuumed my first floor really well with the Dyson, then went over the same area with the Windtunnel. It picked up a small fistful of hair and fluff, plus a small pile of dust and grit. The Hoover has fragile plastic and has had a few parts break, namely the cord clip and dirt cup hinge, which I discussed last month. I have to unscrew the top of the dirt cup in order to empty it! However, surprisingly, the retractable cord still works! If I were to buy a new Dyson, I would get the DC65 Animal. It looks really nice. | ||
Post# 286550 , Reply# 11 6/28/2014 at 13:02 (3,588 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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"The Dyson has broken EVERYTHING" I wonder if you had a sealed system while doing this test. The hose pickup was awful, and while I've only had minimal real-life experience with a DC07, I would never expect it to do so poorly if it were proper working condition. If you had to manually hold the wand and tank together, I bet along the way there was a leak.
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| Post# 286560 , Reply# 12 6/28/2014 at 15:39 (3,588 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Oh dear! That's a good catch! I completely forgot to edit in the Dyson part! I thought I recorded the Fantom and Dyson in one take!
I would NEVER forge results, Even if my vote goes for Fantom! The test was repeated 3 times to rule out any mistakes made.
Bagintheback-You're right! When the Dyson lost suction, I forgot I had to hold the bin to the vacuum to make it work!
It's hard to see, But the Dyson was leaving substantial dirt on the carpet, plus flicking it back onto my legs!
Here is the Dyson clip I forgot!: CLICK HERE TO GO TO super-sweeper's LINK | ||
| Post# 286597 , Reply# 14 6/29/2014 at 03:45 (3,587 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I thought the Dyson was impossible to empty without breaking it? I thought it was already broken to empty? | ||
| Post# 286602 , Reply# 15 6/29/2014 at 08:26 (3,587 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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That DC07 has to be one of the worst examples of a DC07 I've ever seen, firstly, that sounds like a very worn clutch, and half way through the video, it started to make a strange noise as if suction was leaking from somewhere. No offense, but I still don't think this is a very fair test. And again, I'm by no means a Dyson fan! | ||
| Post# 286619 , Reply# 16 6/29/2014 at 12:23 (3,587 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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very fair? | ||
| Post# 286621 , Reply# 17 6/29/2014 at 12:34 (3,587 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 286631 , Reply# 18 6/29/2014 at 14:35 (3,587 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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You should try a DC17, They are aggressive I hear! | ||
| Post# 286632 , Reply# 19 6/29/2014 at 15:07 (3,587 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 286634 , Reply# 20 6/29/2014 at 15:19 (3,587 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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DC17, | ||
| Post# 286644 , Reply# 21 6/29/2014 at 16:50 (3,587 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Excuses, Excuses... Have you tried a DC17? I would love to, but I never heard of a good condition DC17 performing crap. All I hear is that they are either good, or too aggressive | ||
| Post# 286646 , Reply# 22 6/29/2014 at 17:01 (3,587 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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What am I giving excuses for? Are you expecting me to track down a DC17 to prove the all-ready proved?
Comparing the Thunder to a DC07 is very fair, they're both from about the same time. Fantom left in 2001, and then came the DC07 in 2002. Although I'm sure the Fantom could out-clean many vacuums newer then it! | ||
| Post# 286665 , Reply# 25 6/29/2014 at 20:23 (3,587 days old) by TASE (Colorado) | ||
I can completely believe this test. On my area rugs (which is similar to UK carpet) my DC07 Animal barely grooms the carpet. It picks up the surface dust and grime, but leaves so much behind. I have to vacuum with another vacuum (any vacuum) to get the rest of the crap out of the carpet. And my DC07 was restored in November and used very seldomly. I think I've only used it in the last 4 months to vacuum up rice I dropped on the floor and hair off my Kirby vacuum.
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| Post# 286677 , Reply# 27 6/29/2014 at 21:58 (3,587 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Thick carpets, | ||
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