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Kirby 508 Hinge Pins?
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Post# 285162   6/17/2014 at 21:59 (3,572 days old) by evilw ()        

I have been lurking on these pages for some time and really love this site!
I have a question about Kirby 508 Hinge Pins, I have two and one has straight lines on the head and the other has the usual Knurled hash marks. Are these both appropriate to the 508, or is one more correct?
Thanks in advance,
-EW


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Post# 285170 , Reply# 1   6/17/2014 at 23:28 (3,572 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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One is probably a replacement... the correct part number you want is 1660 for your machine.

~Ben


Post# 285174 , Reply# 2   6/17/2014 at 23:46 (3,572 days old) by evilw ()        

Thanks!

Post# 285175 , Reply# 3   6/17/2014 at 23:48 (3,572 days old) by kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845)        

They both work fine. I think one is just from a later model

Post# 285182 , Reply# 4   6/18/2014 at 00:47 (3,572 days old) by evilw ()        

Thanks,
I also had a question about the different castings on the Nozzle Heads. One of mine (the later logo) doesn't have the raised area on top or the metal clips holding the bumper. It also has a groove where the fastener goes.
Any clues?


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Post# 285183 , Reply# 5   6/18/2014 at 00:54 (3,572 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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The later one, as you describe it, would be for models 513-515, for it was that machine that inaugurated the red nozzle and headlight bumpers, and a new-style rug guard that runs all the way through the nozzle. The earlier one you have is for models 505-512. Specifically, you have a 508 nozzle because of that being the first Kirby with a red belt lifter. The red nozzle bumper on that nozzle is a replacement, since up to the 512, it was gray.

That also means the brush roll assemblies will not interchange between models 505-512 and 513-515. The 513 brush roll will fit all models up to the Dual Sanitronic 80.

~Ben


Post# 285194 , Reply# 6   6/18/2014 at 04:08 (3,572 days old) by evilw ()        

Thanks Ben,

Perhaps the other photos didn't show up, but they both have the old early rug guards.


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Post# 285195 , Reply# 7   6/18/2014 at 04:13 (3,572 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Sorry, I goofed on that other one... the red bumper is, again, a replacement if it came from a model 509 to 512.

~Ben


Post# 285260 , Reply# 8   6/18/2014 at 16:27 (3,571 days old) by evilw ()        
Handle Fork Pin

Sorry, I put "hinge" pin in the tiltle when it should have been Handle "Fork" Pin.

Still wondering what the top one goes to?


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Post# 285281 , Reply# 9   6/18/2014 at 18:21 (3,571 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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I don't know for sure, but my guess is that the upper and slightly shorter one is for the early Scott & Fetzer or Vacuette machines. I'll have to take a look at my machines and see which, if any, have the early type. This is something I've never noticed before!


Post# 285306 , Reply# 10   6/18/2014 at 21:21 (3,571 days old) by evilw ()        

Thanks! They both cam off of 508s (one early and one late)


Post# 285314 , Reply# 11   6/18/2014 at 22:26 (3,571 days old) by evilw ()        

Ah ... A little snooping around and I found a photo of Cb123's 508 with the straight grooves on the fork pin. Whew!

Thanks,
-EW


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Post# 285320 , Reply# 12   6/18/2014 at 22:49 (3,571 days old) by evilw ()        



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Post# 285334 , Reply# 13   6/19/2014 at 00:55 (3,571 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
check out the pin

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On this eBay model 3C, looks like the pin on top in the 1st picture!

You're be needing the 4th picture in the auction!


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Post# 285340 , Reply# 14   6/19/2014 at 01:19 (3,571 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Alex,

That model 3C had been rebuilt by Kirby in the 1956-62 time frame. All the replacement trim I see would've been official Kirby replacement parts in that period (red bumpers for headlight cap and nozzle, Kirby bag with 1953 logo, et al).

~Ben


Post# 285341 , Reply# 15   6/19/2014 at 01:30 (3,571 days old) by Paul (USA)        

You get some serious points, evilw, for pointing out something to Charles that he'd never noticed before--at least with Kirbys and Electroluxes! Anyone that has visited Charles' website and read his threads and replies on Vacuumland knows that is quite a feat! You also get points for being so attentive to details yourself.

Anyway, I also appreciate minutiae such as the handle fork pin knurls, or ridges (which both have--the straight line type is called a "linear knurl", and the criss-cross type is called a "diamond knurl").

All the best in your Kirby restoration efforts.



Post# 285350 , Reply# 16   6/19/2014 at 03:05 (3,571 days old) by evilw ()        

Thanks everyone ... I love this site! I also LOVE minutia and I guess I am in a "linear knurl" state of mind ..

Do any of you with 505s have the "linear knurl" Fork Pin on your machines?

Thanks again!
-EW



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