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A few pics of my Dyson and Vacuum cleaner collection. |
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Post# 284981   6/17/2014 at 06:07 (3,599 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 284982 , Reply# 1   6/17/2014 at 06:22 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 284984 , Reply# 2   6/17/2014 at 06:29 (3,599 days old) by jakesvacs ()   |   | |
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Very Nice collection! All your Dysons look in great condition! |
Post# 284988 , Reply# 4   6/17/2014 at 06:47 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Eeek, sorry Matthew, I'm the total opposite. I'd rather not use a Dyson at all, but the 07 is particularly horrid IMO.
Of the 5 Dyson's my Grandparents have owned, the 07 was the most unreliable, the most poor performing and the loudest. I love that everyone on here has differing opinions - makes it so interesting :). |
Post# 284991 , Reply# 5   6/17/2014 at 06:52 (3,599 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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Well I'm happy to share thoughts. I favour the DC07 for its 300 air watts, reversible wand and the CLIC has the awesome colour scheme. As you know mine, what's your machine of choice? |
Post# 284994 , Reply# 6   6/17/2014 at 07:12 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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My grandma has burnt her way through 5 Dyson's since 97. A DC01, DC04 Silver Lime, DC07 Animal, DC15 All Floors and a DC27 Animal. The DC07 lasted just over a year and after about 2 months of use, the root cyclone design completely clogged up with pet hair and blocked all the suction. That does seem to be an issue that Dyson resolved from the DC14 onwards, but caused major issues on my Grandma's 07. I've also seen it happen on many others over the years too.
I much prefer bagged vacuums. I find bagless far too messy and unhygenic. The whole process of emptying the dust bin and having to wash the filters, all harks back to the days of cloth shake out bags more than technology for me. My collection is older vacs from the 70's - 90's. In the house, we have 2 Sebo X1.1 uprights (standard white model and a red Euronics exclusive) that get used day to day and a Numatic George in the garage for car cleaning, wet pick up and shampooing. |
Post# 285003 , Reply# 8   6/17/2014 at 08:00 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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I've owned both the X1.1 and the X4. My in laws also own the X4. Having used both, there is absolutely no noticeable power difference.
The auto height adjustment tends to divide opinions. Personally, I love it and I've never had a problem with it not deep cleaning or with it moving constantly. On both our X1's, it only moves when moving between floor types and once it's stopped, that's it. It doesn't move then until we move to another carpet. However, I know others have reported this happening so maybe it depends on the carpet being vacuumed. I do notice occaisionally the carpet height sensor light will light up, but only for a few seconds and not actually long enough for the brushroll to move. Possibly a built in feature to give the user the impression that the machine is "constantly sensing"? Personally, I'd rather use the computer controlled height adjustment than the floating head. We haven't actually moved onto the new fabric bags yet. I still have a heap of paper ones left. The bags are enourmous and constantly compacting the dirt, so you can really cram them full. The last time I replaced it, you could've put someones window through with it lol. I'm eager to try them out though and see if there is any noticable difference. They certainly made all the difference to the Felix. My Mum has a Felix Navy and uses the fabric bags - they really are fantastic. |
Post# 285014 , Reply# 9   6/17/2014 at 09:31 (3,599 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Excellent Dyson Collection: Love them all. With the exception of your DC04 ConstantMAX, I have the same models you do. The Vacuum Cleaner Museum is blessed to have one of every model Dyson (although, perhaps not all the color variations within the model range). Congratulations.
Here's a pic of the very first production model Dyson ever, the Cyclon1000.
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Post# 285039 , Reply# 11   6/17/2014 at 10:49 (3,599 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 285040 , Reply# 12   6/17/2014 at 10:54 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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No, not at all. At least, not so much of a suction drop to hinder performance.
This all boils down to Dyson marketing, but since you're a Dyson fan, I won't go there. I've never used a vacuum that, other than getting blocked, will not perform to an acceptable standard with a full bag. Even with a choked up bag, the suction has always been enough to clean a carpet. This is especially true of the Sebo X series as the filter runs up the side of the bag and is not sat underneath it, so the suction motor does not have a full bag of dust ontop of it. I mean, how much suction do you think it takes to clean a carpet? You're only picking up dust and grit, not bricks. Dustmites don't wear seatbelts, ya know ;). So, whereever possible, I will cram the bag full. 18th century cottage? Be still my beating heart - sounds lovely! We're in a 3 story, 3 bedroom new build, so total opposite. |
Post# 285071 , Reply# 15   6/17/2014 at 13:53 (3,599 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Hi Mathew
That's a great collection, I have many of the models you have too. I have the all of them on display in my showroom in my vacshop. We are huge dyson supporters.
Here are some of my ones.
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Post# 285075 , Reply# 16   6/17/2014 at 14:04 (3,599 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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Hellow Matthew,
Great collection there! Love the Icon and Felix. The bagged Icons are much better for performance than the bagless, worth pickingone up if you come across one cheap somewhere. Are youon Facebook? Feel free to add any of us as friends and theres also a UK based vac collectors group there if you need quick direct access to any help or answers about whatever :D :D :D Rob |
Post# 285081 , Reply# 17   6/17/2014 at 14:15 (3,599 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Lov the collection! I am a dyson fan too. Here are some of mine: |
Post# 285101 , Reply# 19   6/17/2014 at 15:26 (3,599 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Well, I'm not trying to point score or anything or brand-bash. I've always said, if you want bagless, then get a Dyson. They're the only brand that do it well, really. But bagless just isn't for me.
Dyson created a problem for people that never existed. Prior to Dyson coming on the scene, was anybody really all that bothered about changing their vacuum bag? We just did it and got on with it. Infact, disposable paper bags were added to vacuums to make them easier and more hygienic to empty. Prior to this, vacuums all had cloth, shake out bags where the user would have to stand the cleaner over the bin and shake all the dust out of the cloth bag. The success of Dyson, in the early years anyway, was purely down to latching onto the market gap for bagless. Seeing the adverts planted a tiny seed of doubt in the consumers mind and everytime they vacuumed, it grew. This made the whole "no loss of suction" thing a lot bigger than it actually was, because although bagged vacuums do lose some suction, it's not enough to stop it picking up well. And if you remember, Dyson adverts were EVERYWHERE in the late 90's. This is in a similar way to how Vax carpet washers were all over the place in the late 80's/early 90's. The ad campaign did just the same thing and started off a craze of carpet washing, that prior to Vax hitting the market, nobody had really thought or cared about. It was a gimmick and people quickly realized it was a pain in the ass to do lol. It's also especially important to note that the DC01 was not actually very good. 90 air watts on the hose, a mediocre brushroll at best and not the best build quality, yet it came with (at the time) a whopping Ł200 price tag and quickly outsold every other cleaner, despite the fact that vacuums on the market at the time retailing at half that were better cleaners. Why? Because he promoted the hell out of his product. The clear bin was completely added on purpose. It is very deceiving as it makes the user think there's heaps of dust coming out of the carpet. Well of course it may look like there's lots, it's been spun around in a cyclone and whipped up. But if you vacuum a full Dyson bin up into a bagged cleaner, you'll find there's very little actually there. My other big objection to Dyson is the price. I mean, the current DC41 is retailing at Ł400 but it's such a flimsy, poorly constructed heap of cheap plastic. I don't think the price tag reflects the quality of the machine you get. So that's my Dyson 2 penneth. Bit of a rant. Go pop an ansprin, you'll feel better :P. I know there are lots of Dyson fans here and I'm not brand bashing. I love that everyone here has differing opinions and what works well for some, might not for others (eg. Sebo auto height adjustment as a prime example). But I honestly believe that when James Dyson starts spouting off saying that his product caught on purely because it was good? RUBBISH. The DC01 and DC02 were terrible performers and any other cleaner on the market at the time would have out-cleaned it. As for your comment about unbranded value vacs, once upon a time, one could've spent any amount on a vacuum and it would have done a relatively good job. The cheap cleaners of the 80's and 90's were Goblin Commander's, Lasers and Rios, but these weren't poor performers. In those days, you'd have paid more for a better built machine rather than higher performing, although of course the design of the actual cleaner does play a big part also. The difference between a cheap bagged upright and an expensive bagged upright is far less than the difference between top and bottom end bagless. By the way, I hope you don't mind, but I sent you a friend request on Facebook :). |
Post# 285104 , Reply# 20   6/17/2014 at 15:53 (3,599 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Mathew
You are more than welcome to come visit, Cape Town is about 1600km away from Durbs but If you fly into SA you can choose to land here first then on to Durban. My shop is about 15 min from the airport so even if you let me know you are waiting for a connecting flight I can come fetch you and show you my shop and collection.
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Post# 285110 , Reply# 21   6/17/2014 at 16:21 (3,599 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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Awww that's such a kind offer. Thank you. Now the reasons to come to S A are even more :-) |
Post# 285245 , Reply# 22   6/18/2014 at 15:15 (3,598 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Vacuum Cleaner bags were horrible in the late 1970's when James designed the first cyclonic vacuum. You have to realize that the one ply cellulose bags clogged almost instantly. Most vacuum cleaners, after 10 or 15 minutes of use, had no airflow left.
While Dyson started talking about "no loss of suction" in 1993 with the DC01, in the United States, we started talking about it in November of 1936 when the Rexair hit the market. It had no water, was dual cyclonic, and had no loss of suction. After the water was added (and they changed the name to Rainbow), it was the most popular vacuum due to the fact there was no odor and no loss of suction / airflow while cleaning. Dyson didn't invent no loss of suction vacuums, Rexair did. Unlike the Dyson, the Rainbow is clean when stored, and all the dirt can be washed from the basin after each use. Cleaning the Dyson cyclones is time consuming, and once you use it for just one minute, the fine dust collector portion is dirty again. |
Post# 285250 , Reply# 23   6/18/2014 at 16:04 (3,598 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I remember my moms Hoover Turbomaster, with a new bag in that machine was a beast and you had to set the hight adjustment to 3 just so you could move it. within 2 days though you could set it back to 2 and move it around with ease. The biggest test was the hardfloor vacuuming. With a new bag it cleaned very well on the hardfloor but as soon as a few days had past it no longer had the power to do so.
It was because of dyson that manufacturers started to do more research in to vacuum bags and improving them.
I am not a huge fan of water filtration in my daily vacuuming( a bit time consuming and I am a upright person ) But that is one of the best things about a Rainbow is you store it clean fresh and ready for its next use
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Post# 285263 , Reply# 25   6/18/2014 at 16:40 (3,598 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Here is the 1936 Rexair Series A. It did NOT use water. As the dirt was inhaled along with the air, the separator (the slotted cone on the bottom of the motor) created an extremely fast cyclone, spinning the dirt to the sides of the container, and separating the fine dust from the air stream.
In March, 1937, Rexair added water and a new bearing plate (with a bearing shield) to the machine, and sold it as the first water filtration vacuum in the world. To operate properly, a water filtration vacuum MUST HAVE a SEPARATOR. There are many that do not have it, like the Thermax, and they do a terrible job of filtering. |
Post# 285266 , Reply# 27   6/18/2014 at 16:49 (3,598 days old) by baglessball ()   |   | |
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Cheers for that Tom. :) |
Post# 285269 , Reply# 28   6/18/2014 at 17:05 (3,598 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 285771 , Reply# 32   6/22/2014 at 07:43 (3,594 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 285772 , Reply# 33   6/22/2014 at 07:50 (3,594 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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I would have done the same if I could find one. Is the dc18 your daily driver at home then? Just out of interest what machine do you vacuum the shop with? |
Post# 285777 , Reply# 34   6/22/2014 at 08:40 (3,594 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I have a few vacuums at home, Our house is large and segregated, I have a dc28 airmuscle, a dc18, dc41,dc52 cinetic, a Harry and a central vacuum. Those are the mainstays but if the mood grabs me I will use my 508 Kirby or what ever Vintage vacuum I have just finished restoring. The most used vacuum in our home though is our dyson Dc62, we have a dc45 and a dc35 aswell.
At the shop I generally use a Royal commercial vacuum due to the horrid industrial carpets we have, But their I also have a Central vacuum and I will use any of the vintage machines on display.
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Post# 285791 , Reply# 36   6/22/2014 at 11:33 (3,594 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 285801 , Reply# 38   6/22/2014 at 13:12 (3,594 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 285808 , Reply# 39   6/22/2014 at 15:21 (3,594 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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That would be wonderful. And maybe the kind of buffing materials like the soap. As I have never heard of it. I have a high speed electric drill if that will do the same? |
Post# 285922 , Reply# 40   6/23/2014 at 12:47 (3,593 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Here is Some of my Dyson I have a couple more That I'll show you later
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Post# 285934 , Reply# 41   6/23/2014 at 14:11 (3,593 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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Time to empty the bin.... |