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Post# 283275   6/5/2014 at 11:08 (3,584 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 283276 , Reply# 1   6/5/2014 at 11:08 (3,584 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 283287 , Reply# 2   6/5/2014 at 11:36 (3,584 days old) by sonnyndad ()   |   | |
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Looks like the handle is original from what I can tell. Does it have a 3 or 4 amp motor? |
Post# 283320 , Reply# 3   6/5/2014 at 15:32 (3,584 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 283331 , Reply# 4   6/5/2014 at 16:52 (3,584 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Bob,
Yes, this appears to be a first-generation 513 going by the non-swiveling top cord hook. As a result, the motor on the nameplate should read 3 amps. During the 513's run the top cord hook changed so it swiveled, to ensure quicker cord release. The motor also increased power from 3 to 4 amps. Regardless of version, the gray cord with red plugs is not original... that first showed up on the model 516. The original cord for the 513 was black with a round female end (for models 514-515, the cord would be gray with round female end). ~Ben |
Post# 283343 , Reply# 5   6/5/2014 at 17:50 (3,584 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 283366 , Reply# 7   6/5/2014 at 21:07 (3,584 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Does it have a 3 amp or 4 amp motor? The early 513s had a 3 amp motor; however, the late 513s had 4 amp motors. As Kirby was gearing up for the Model 514, they also began installing red trim on the 513. With the 4 amp models, Kirby also provides a glimpse at the new logo style on the builder's plate. |
Post# 283372 , Reply# 8   6/5/2014 at 21:39 (3,584 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 283382 , Reply# 9   6/5/2014 at 22:09 (3,584 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 283384 , Reply# 10   6/5/2014 at 22:18 (3,584 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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If you look through the vent, you can see the armature shaft. Spin the fan until you see the small whole that's drilled into the shaft up near the cooling fan. Insert an ice pick or some other thin instrument through the hole. As you spin the fan pulley with a wrench, the ice pick will bind up against the housing and keep the armature stationary. |
Post# 283385 , Reply# 11   6/5/2014 at 22:21 (3,584 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Take the 4 screws out of the fan chamber housing on the back, take the fan chamber off, then put a tool into the hole in the armature located by the cooling fan inside the motor housing and (if it has the original metal fan)(if it's a metal fan then the fan and spindle are one piece) then you should be able to put something in the hole on the spindle and turn clockwise. If the spindle doesn't have a hole in it either turn the fan blades or clamp onto the spindle and turn.
Hope this helps |
Post# 283387 , Reply# 12   6/5/2014 at 22:31 (3,584 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 283388 , Reply# 13   6/5/2014 at 22:33 (3,584 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 283390 , Reply# 14   6/5/2014 at 23:10 (3,584 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 283486 , Reply# 15   6/6/2014 at 16:46 (3,583 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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So what implement of destruction did you use to lock the armature?
If you don't have an ice pick or the armature locking tool, go to the hardware store and get a length of 1/8" piano wire, cut a piece about 6" long and you have the perfect tool for locking the armature. It's cheap and works well and easy to make more when needed. |
Post# 283656 , Reply# 16   6/7/2014 at 22:56 (3,582 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 283658 , Reply# 17   6/7/2014 at 23:20 (3,582 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 283659 , Reply# 18   6/7/2014 at 23:21 (3,582 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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I've never had success with Kirby's fan locking tool. It always bends on me. That's why I always use a gold old fashioned icepick or a long thin punch pin. Remember too that the fan pulley has left handed threads; therefore, it will spin off in a clockwise direction. But it sounds like things may be rusty. If all else fails, you can try heating the fan pulley with a torch, then letting it cool. That will loosen the rust, making it easier to spin off.
Good luck! Patience is the key!
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Post# 283986 , Reply# 19   6/10/2014 at 15:41 (3,579 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 284006 , Reply# 20   6/10/2014 at 18:17 (3,579 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 284027 , Reply# 21   6/10/2014 at 21:34 (3,579 days old) by Anachronism ()   |   | |
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Shooting penetrating oil into the hole in the fan hub & setting it so the oil settles at the end of the motor shaft before heating not only helps loosen the part, but will also disperse mosquitos in the area |
Post# 284028 , Reply# 22   6/10/2014 at 21:38 (3,579 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 284029 , Reply# 23   6/10/2014 at 21:47 (3,579 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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