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Post# 283065   6/4/2014 at 10:57 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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my mum's dyson DC01 from 1998 is now retired

it's been vacuuming up for 16 years

it's very noisy and smells like burn

I said ill fix it
she said NO im having a dyson DC04 so can you please fix it up and you can keep the dc01

I said ok then



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Post# 283066 , Reply# 1   6/4/2014 at 11:02 (3,606 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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My heart bleeds.

Post# 283067 , Reply# 2   6/4/2014 at 11:05 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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some pics of it :-(

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Post# 283068 , Reply# 3   6/4/2014 at 11:06 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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is that sarcasm ALEX

Post# 283069 , Reply# 4   6/4/2014 at 11:10 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
16 Years?

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How your family didn't feel the urge throw it down the stairs in 16 years i'll never know.

 

Now run a nice older Hoover with an Activator or Beater Bar over the carpet and you'll see 16 years worth of hidden dust.

 

It beats as it sweeps as it cleans. It's that simple.


Post# 283070 , Reply# 5   6/4/2014 at 11:15 (3,606 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Yes


Post# 283071 , Reply# 6   6/4/2014 at 11:16 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        

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Need we say more Alex?

 

Go on Citroen, get a nice old Hoover, I bought a Turbopower Junior U1426 for just £5, leant it to my neightbour, and filled a third of a bag after she'd been round with her pleated Vax.


Post# 283075 , Reply# 7   6/4/2014 at 11:33 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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we've borrowed one of these Panasonic vacuums

the bag was half full


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Post# 283076 , Reply# 8   6/4/2014 at 11:37 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Well...

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... at least your getting somewhere!

 

Didn't you have a big collection as well, so why not just use one of them?


Post# 283077 , Reply# 9   6/4/2014 at 11:40 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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because I never use them out of collection

and my mum said im not using one of your pride and joy


Post# 283078 , Reply# 10   6/4/2014 at 11:41 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Ok...

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... do you not vacuum at home then?


Post# 283080 , Reply# 11   6/4/2014 at 12:02 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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yes I do. With my mums dyson I vacuum up every day after tea

and upstairs Wednesdays


Post# 283081 , Reply# 12   6/4/2014 at 12:06 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Ok...

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... well, I would prefer an MCE-468 over a DC01 to be honest.


Post# 283082 , Reply# 13   6/4/2014 at 12:14 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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yes so would I now but is does give me backache and does no go right up the stairs

and bags are £1.50 per pack



Post# 283084 , Reply# 14   6/4/2014 at 12:17 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
£1.50 for bags...ok...

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...so the cost of genuine Dyson filters, belts, and other spare parts are less than £1.50 then?


Post# 283085 , Reply# 15   6/4/2014 at 12:20 (3,606 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I would take that Panasonic over the noisy carpet sweeper anyday, far better and cleaner/cheaper to maintain.

Post# 283086 , Reply# 16   6/4/2014 at 12:21 (3,606 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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the dyson washable filter are 8 month old

we never buy dyson genuine belts

Panasonic belts are about £2.00 per pack


Post# 283091 , Reply# 17   6/4/2014 at 12:46 (3,606 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
I know it's been said before...

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...but changing a bag is a lot less hassle than dealing with dust bins, and also changing and cleaning filters left right and centre.


Post# 283099 , Reply# 18   6/4/2014 at 13:29 (3,605 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
Now run a nice older Hoover with activator

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eeuugh, the amount of issues I can list that those types of machines have

Post# 283104 , Reply# 19   6/4/2014 at 13:57 (3,605 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Go on

Post# 283105 , Reply# 20   6/4/2014 at 14:07 (3,605 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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It sounds like your Dyson did lose suction and will be buried in the carpet after a short service.

As they say in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy DON'T PANIC


Post# 283106 , Reply# 21   6/4/2014 at 14:19 (3,605 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
well

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There louder then most newer machines, awful filtration they literally blow the dust out, build quality is literally non existent, juniors have that annoying issue with the brush roll clips vibrating not to mention the terrible hose suction and the fact the belts always snap, seniors are very heavy, turbopowers crack, split and vibrate not to mention they are loud, have poor hose suction and tp2s have the issue with the brush roll bearings and bag doors not to mention being heavy and quite frankly not that good, older machines may perform better on carpets but have many issues that people need you need to consider, I like my older machines but couldn't be bothered with them all the time, modern machines are a vast improvement over the 70s cleaners just because the dont beat the living daylights out of the carpet doesn't mean they dont clean to a high standard, obviously the dc01 is not a good machine at all really lol, my point is, is that you dont need to get a Hoover with activator the clean carpets when there are many modern machines that will perform to a good standard. I guarantee this will fall on deaf ears as collectors are as stubborn red wine stain on a shag pile carpet.



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Post# 283107 , Reply# 22   6/4/2014 at 14:24 (3,605 days old) by MadAboutHoovers ()        

Blimey Mike - you don't mince your words there do you?


Post# 283111 , Reply# 23   6/4/2014 at 14:57 (3,605 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
you don't mince your words there do you?

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Steve as you may know i am blunt and strait to the point, I mean no offence in what I say, I also forgot the mention that many older cleaners are very small and have short cables

Post# 283154 , Reply# 24   6/4/2014 at 19:42 (3,605 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
wasn't this

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That DC01 you kept going on about 'only being used __ Times' and in mint shape? It makes me think of all the battle-scared Kirbys and HOOVERS and EUREKAS out there, beating and sweeping after DECADES of use!smile


Post# 283220 , Reply# 25   6/5/2014 at 02:10 (3,605 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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the dyson that has been used 24 times is still not used and I never will

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Post# 283252 , Reply# 26   6/5/2014 at 08:56 (3,605 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I am surprised it lasted that long... Sorry, I had to say it.

Post# 283268 , Reply# 27   6/5/2014 at 10:46 (3,605 days old) by citroenbx (england)        
this is

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Post# 283270 , Reply# 28   6/5/2014 at 10:52 (3,605 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Jamie, it is aBritish made Dyson, no wonder it lasted long. Plus Dyson are the best bagless vacuums you can get, and the DC01's were fairly reliable in their time. I still see DC04's and DC01's and a DC03 being used today! (Not by me, but from relatives, friends or family friends)

Post# 283278 , Reply# 29   6/5/2014 at 11:18 (3,605 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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You posted this last year, is this not the same Dyson? It sure looks the same.


 

it pops up in every vacuum thread so make it own thread 

a bit about it used 24 times because they had wooden flooring 

ask as many questions to me as you want not for sale

 


Post# 283279 , Reply# 30   6/5/2014 at 11:23 (3,605 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
'the best bagless'

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Oh gee, I don't even need words for the best bagless vacuums,


Post# 283280 , Reply# 31   6/5/2014 at 11:23 (3,605 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
or,

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Maybe even a:


Post# 283293 , Reply# 32   6/5/2014 at 12:04 (3,605 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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well it is not look at the side yellow sticker

and rating plate on this one is yellow not grey


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Post# 283309 , Reply# 33   6/5/2014 at 13:58 (3,604 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
There is no rating plate pictures-

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And the pictures of the supposed broken dyson are all different! The 1st Dyson has no rating plate sticker and lime green DC04 tools. The other 3 have matching tools and no sticker. Why would you put 1 picture of the actual machine, and then 3 pictures of a newer machine with no relevance to the "Broken" Dyson (How often do I hear the term "Broken Dyson"!tongue-out)?


Post# 283332 , Reply# 34   6/5/2014 at 17:07 (3,604 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Beat the Dyson DC04 for a bagless machine :P
It is reliable, durable, sturdy, quiet, powerful, has a large capacity, has a round brushbar and other models have a clutch
Has HEPA
Has nice, proper tools
Has Great tool storage
Has a washable filter
Easy to take apart without any tools, a belt change is very quick
The cable is so easy to change, only 1 screw
It is user friendly
It has a suction control button on the handle
It lasts so long, I now many people in my neighbourhood alone who use DC04's.
The Dyson DC04 is more powerful than the modern vacs today (as in performance)
Te Dyson DC04 was one of the cheaper Dysons
The Dyson DC04 has the reliable motors, and it is a British made vacuum. They are geninely great Dysons, ask any UK vacuumland member about a DC04, they will start sayin positive things about them. Well it does have a few niggles like the odd cable connection (but this was sorted) and the large wand cap which is annoying.


Post# 283333 , Reply# 35   6/5/2014 at 17:13 (3,604 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Where are you getting these ideas Tayyab?

Post# 283339 , Reply# 36   6/5/2014 at 17:41 (3,604 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I can't imagine all the dirt that has built up over the past 16 years...


Post# 283342 , Reply# 37   6/5/2014 at 17:48 (3,604 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Isn't that obvious Alex? :P

Post# 283359 , Reply# 38   6/5/2014 at 19:54 (3,604 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
All of those AND MORE.....

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Can be found in a FANTOM! I just got done scrubbing down a nice THUNDER model, Such a lovely and efficient cleaner! I could care less for a clutch, The belt's a LOT easier to replace without it!

 

Here's some FANTOM features for you:

 

  • HEPA Filtration
  • VERY VERY large bin compacity
  • Voted a Consumer's Best Buy (Even the Stickers hold up on a Fantom!)
  • Long Telescoping hose+handle combination (Not to mention you can connect UNLIMITED extension hoses!)
  • Easy-Access blockage removal  doors
  • DUAL HEADLIGHTS! (Something DYSON cannot see the "light" in, Pun intended, of course!)
  • VERY Easy To Empty dust bin.
  • Rated for COMMERCIAL USE (Remember, The Thunder is a Commercial design originally known as the "Vectron"!)
  • On-Board Floor Tool (You'd have to carry it around on that DYSON!)
  • Better Brush-Roll design
  • 2 Screws to change a belt (And Headlights!)-NO CLUTCHES REQUIRED!
  • Tools of unbelievable quality
  • AUTOMATIC Blockage Indicator (WHISTLES When there's a blockage! very handy with those Blockage Doors!)
  • ALSO AUTOMATIC Filter Replacement Indicator. Button shows RED when filter requires replacement!
  • Easy and reliable spring-loaded Handle Release (A nice Push-Button, I've never seen a broken one! I've seen plenty of broken Dyson ones!)
  • HUGE and reliable motors. I've NEVER seen a Thunder or Fury model with a bad motor!

The Following are what the Thunder excels in compared to modern bagless cleaners (Especially Dyson!)

  • Durability
  • Cleaning
  • Above-Floor cleaning
  • Features
  • Brush Design
  • Overall Design
  • Performance
  • Cyclonic Action

I need to Drag that DC07 I hang on to and show you how the Fantom leaves it in the dust wink


Post# 283404 , Reply# 39   6/6/2014 at 02:02 (3,604 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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my mums getting her dc04 this week

she can't wait

it will have 1600w motor to


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Post# 283405 , Reply# 40   6/6/2014 at 02:28 (3,604 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

HEPA Filtration- Dyson has it too
VERY VERY large bin compacity- Dyson has it too, and British homes are small
Voted a Consumer's Best Buy (Even the Stickers hold up on a Fantom!)-So has Dyson Recently and back in the day
Long Telescoping hose+handle combination (Not to mention you can connect UNLIMITED extension hoses!)Dyson does not need a lot of extension hoses in a small British home
Easy-Access blockage removal doors- Dyson has air ways you can take off, without tools.
DUAL HEADLIGHTS! (Something DYSON cannot see the "light" in, Pun intended, of course!) - You gonna vacuum in a powercut?
VERY Easy To Empty dust bin.- So is Dyson
Rated for COMMERCIAL USE (Remember, The Thunder is a Commercial design originally known as the "Vectron"!)- Dyson DC04 constant max can
On-Board Floor Tool (You'd have to carry it around on that DYSON!)- I will give you that +1
Better Brush-Roll design+ Dyson DC04's round brush grooms nicely
2 Screws to change a belt (And Headlights!)-NO CLUTCHES REQUIRED! - You do not need any tools to take a soleplate off a non clutched one which is all you need. Just a coin which most people have in their pockets
Tools of unbelievable quality
AUTOMATIC Blockage Indicator (WHISTLES When there's a blockage! very handy with those Blockage Doors!)+Dyson has it too
ALSO AUTOMATIC Filter Replacement Indicator. Button shows RED when filter requires replacement!- Dyson stops sucking after a few years. People are meant to wash it every 6 months
Easy and reliable spring-loaded Handle Release (A nice Push-Button, I've never seen a broken one! I've seen plenty of broken Dyson ones!)- Is that what Kirby has?
HUGE and reliable motors. I've NEVER seen a Thunder or Fury model with a bad motor!- Early Dysons are rarely seen with burnt out motors.
The Following are what the Thunder excels in compared to modern bagless cleaners (Especially Dyson!)
Durability- Dyson has it too
Cleaning= Dyson has satisfying performance
Above-Floor cleaning- Dyson has it too
Features- Dyson has good features
Brush Design- OK
Overall Design- Yes, Dyson
Performance- Yes, Fantom is meant to be used in American homes
Cyclonic Action- Dyson has it too, but what is its purpose?


Post# 283412 , Reply# 41   6/6/2014 at 07:24 (3,604 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Reliable handle release? Most dysons don't even have one. And as for fantom, I have two furys and a cyclone xt AND a lightning with broken handle releases.

 

Reliable motors? The fury used a cheap and dumbed down motor and I have two with either bad or going-bad motors. And one of my two thunders is having a major arcing problem.

 

Extension hoses? You need them for the fantoms if you plan on vacuuming your stairs. Since the dc01 dyson has had a stair cleaning hose.

 

And at least dysons protect their motor with pre filters, something Iona was too lazy to do.

 

As far as the durability issues I described above, none ocured in my use and all happened prior to my ownership.

 

Scott

 

P.S: I still love fantoms.


Post# 283415 , Reply# 42   6/6/2014 at 08:17 (3,604 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
a challenger has appeared!

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Please, the last time I went to empty a DC07 the bin broke every plastic piece it could! 

 

In what world does Kirby have a telescoping handle? I'll be putting the Thunder against the DC07 shortly, then you'll understand why the Fantom is superior.

 

And yes,I do tend to vacuum in power outageswink.

 

Back on subject, glad to see the new replacement is ready. Have you seen my 1950s scanning thread over in the household forum? I upload an old add for Citroen cars, and I know I have at-least one other to scan.


Post# 283418 , Reply# 43   6/6/2014 at 08:44 (3,604 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Oh my, how do you empty a Dc07? I have a very fragile mint British 2001 Dc07 and it gets emptied properly with nothing breaking or snapping off. Just pull the trigger, and take the bin off by un releasing it simply with the catch provided.
PS The Dyson does not have any foot pedals which break, you can jump on a dyson cleaner head to kick it down, stomp on it or whatever you want and it is that reliable.


Post# 283422 , Reply# 44   6/6/2014 at 09:28 (3,604 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Alex, I look forward to your comparison. Will it be on youtube?


Post# 283442 , Reply# 45   6/6/2014 at 10:47 (3,604 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
The downfall of Fantom

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was the fact that there was NO pre-motor filtration on the Thunder and Fury. Just a screen to catch 'fluff'. The idea was to fill the $75 Hepa filter every two years. Once James invented MEMA filters (Maximum Efficiency - Maximum Airflow) that could be washed, Fantom wanted nothing to do with them. They were "in the business" of selling filters. Which is one reason James did NOT allow them to use his patents after the ten year contract expired.

To the Dyson's credit, even the first model (DC01) had a pre-motor filter.


Post# 283443 , Reply# 46   6/6/2014 at 10:48 (3,604 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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Me too

Post# 283533 , Reply# 47   6/6/2014 at 23:06 (3,603 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
boooo MEMA filters,

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And you bet your bwerks it will be on YouTube! So far the results are in Fantom's favor, but I'm even giving the DC07 a second chance to beat the Fantom by washing the filters. The tests should be done by next week.I'll start a thread with the results.

 

I empty my DC07 like a baby-still broke everywhere!


Post# 283566 , Reply# 48   6/7/2014 at 05:36 (3,603 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

That sounds extremely unusual :/ whoah

Post# 283574 , Reply# 49   6/7/2014 at 09:57 (3,603 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
the Fantom winning part?

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Why it's all but expected....tongue-out

 

I'll be sure to show the broken-ness of the DC07!


Post# 283605 , Reply# 50   6/7/2014 at 13:31 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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dysons have lot's problems

bin catch

carrying handle


this one is from 2001


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Post# 283630 , Reply# 51   6/7/2014 at 17:25 (3,602 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

The Dyson DC01 and DC02 Cyclone handle carry handles are indestructible! You will never see one snapped off, even if its thrown off a cliff or used in a commercial environment

Post# 283643 , Reply# 52   6/7/2014 at 20:24 (3,602 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Thrown off a cliff you say....

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One way to find that out!tongue-out


Post# 283672 , Reply# 53   6/8/2014 at 06:29 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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they are very thick

dc01 & dc02 handle's



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