Thread Number: 24982
"Kirby will just be a name on Chinese clone vacuums" |
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Post# 280908   5/17/2014 at 23:37 (3,603 days old) by TASE (Colorado)   |   | |
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I had watched a video of a Kirby G3 Trash find by a Youtuber I frequently watch, and since I had commented on a post I keep getting notifications for comments posted.
I am the only icon that you can see fully (also "Mr.")
You'll probably want to look at the image before reading what I have to say.
First and foremost, I really doubt Kirby will stop making Old Style bags any time soon. They have too many Kirbys that use them. (HII - Sentria 2010(ish))
Second, did they seriously stop making the light bulbs? I know you can still purchase light bulbs for older machines like Sanitronics so I'd assume they didn't discontinue the bulbs.
The last topic of discussion is that Kirby (like Fantom or Kenmore) will be a name printed on plastic vacs that are sold in Walmart. I presume this guy means within the next 20 years.
I really, really don't think Kirby will ever get to this level of filth. Sure their selling scheme is pretty bad (D2D is no longer a really practical sales model, though it does work,) but Kirby has too high of an ego to ever do this. They pull in a lot of cash for their current Kirbys. I presume innovation costs are pretty low with how close all the machines within the last 20 years are. One of the reasons Kirbys sell are due to their longevity and reliability. Them becoming a "name" for plastic vacs is not how Kirby is. They are proud of their history. They sell a lot of machines due to their ego. I just don't see this in the future of Kirby.
However, I'd love to see where this topic goes. Share your opinion on whether or not $2000 Kirbys will become a thing of the past.
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Post# 280976 , Reply# 1   5/18/2014 at 17:28 (3,602 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 280986 , Reply# 3   5/18/2014 at 19:23 (3,602 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 281013 , Reply# 4   5/18/2014 at 20:56 (3,602 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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The company is owned by Berkshire Hathaway with a current market value of $312 billion, with no consequential debt and usually about $40-$50 billion in "cash and equivalents" on hand at any given time.
They own Geico Insurance, a large share of Coca Cola and the entire BNSF Railway. That names only a few of the dozens of large, and extremely large holdings of the mega conglomerate. Kirby is one of their smallest. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK |
Post# 281014 , Reply# 5   5/18/2014 at 20:56 (3,602 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Is a fate no Vacuum collector dreams of. Kirby is one of the last few QUALITY vacuum producers out there today. TTI wouldn't know QUALITY if it shot them in the foot. TTI usually buys out the bankrupt companies (Remember, Hoover was owned by Maytag before being sold to TTI, and Oreck filed Bankruptcy before being bought-out). Has there been a Case of Hostile Take-Over? |
Post# 281027 , Reply# 7   5/18/2014 at 21:38 (3,602 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Sick of the TTI bashing . If it wasn't for them there would be NO Hoover Oreck Royal or Dirt Devil .
They make quality vacuums and will bring manufacturing back to the USA . I own MANY Chinese Hoovers and the machines are amazing in quality . They don't offer five year warrantys on their products because they are junk they are built to a higher standard they pay more and get a better product . Oreck will continue to be made in the US along side of other vacuums including Hoover and Royal . They are a family owned company from Europe who truly care about their brands and products they produce . Unions killed products made in the US companies had no choice but to move operations to China or risk going out of business . Dan |
Post# 281071 , Reply# 8   5/19/2014 at 12:45 (3,601 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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I agree with you about TTI "Saving" Hoover, Oreck and the rest. Hoovers are a half-decent vacuum considering they're made in china, but still could not compete with the metal uprights of yesteryear. Oreck is still in the US, For now. The day TTI manufactures in the U.S.A is the day they gain my support. Still, TTI has had some hits-and-misses. Wasn't it the T-Series Hoover that had a cord-fire problem? I remember reading something along the lines of that. Dirt Devil is still on the cheap end, remember the ALUMINUM motor windings in the Featherlite model a while back? TTI,or China for that matter, only produce a vacuum to the cost desired to the manufacturer, and is TTI not the manufacturer themselves? |
Post# 281142 , Reply# 10   5/19/2014 at 22:30 (3,601 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 281162 , Reply# 12   5/20/2014 at 05:42 (3,600 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 281167 , Reply# 14   5/20/2014 at 06:38 (3,600 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 281475 , Reply# 19   5/22/2014 at 16:46 (3,598 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 281513 , Reply# 21   5/22/2014 at 23:20 (3,598 days old) by TASE (Colorado)   |   | |
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ncovert, I'm used to Reddit where the rule for the whole site is "Don't post personal information." Therefore, I blank out all images.
Since that rule doesn't exist here, it's Maxxarcade's "Trash Picked Kirby Vacuum 5-14-14"
sptyks, I didn't, but that sure makes sense.
Electromatik, I completely agree. Why would you change over to a place that no longer has any real benefit of producing your machine? Just to save $20?
One of the reasons there are so many Kirbys is due to the reliability. Having machines made by people who don't care would have a decline in the purchase and use of Kirbys. Not a very good thing for the S&F Company. |
Post# 281545 , Reply# 24   5/23/2014 at 08:29 (3,597 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 281567 , Reply# 25   5/23/2014 at 14:07 (3,597 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Kirby never made their own bags. They always sourced them. It's the bag manufacturer that makes them in China.
Kirby doesn't make their own headlights, they buy them. The Chinese will make a vacuum out of any material, and to any quality, that's demanded. TTI doesn't make their own vacuums. Neither does Eureka. Neither does Shark and Bissell. Virtually all those machines are made by King Clean in China. TTI works with their engineers to design what they want, and King Clean makes the vacuum. You'll notice that Hoover's Multi Cyclonic canister is identical in design to the Eureka AirExcell, which is the same vacuum as the Bissell PowerGroom canister. They are the same machine. |