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Dyson DC02 Restoration |
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Post# 280448 , Reply# 1   5/14/2014 at 06:05 (3,606 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Look great, and nice to see the small tools all present and in such good nick. My guess on what happened with the bent end is that it was used regularly by itself to vacuum out a car, hence why it has worn down, and probably dropped a few times on a concrete driveway. They're still easy to find though, and even the generic ones are a close match to the originals.
I always had a soft spot for the DC02, so 90s and very much a product of its time. We sold an awful lot of them back in the day and they were generally well liked by users. Like most Dyson cylinders, the inner cyclone is rather short and the filters do tend to soil more heavily compared to the uprights. As long as they were changed frequently however, we really didn't see many problems with them. Sure was nice having all the tools stored on board in a proper compartment, rather than awkwardly hanging off the machine or hose. The stair-hugging shape was a genius idea too, and something I wish they would bring back. |
Post# 280453 , Reply# 3   5/14/2014 at 07:12 (3,606 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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Looks wonderful! You are always so thorough with your restorations. I have always had a real fondness for the dc02 and its American counterpart. Out of all the foreign vacuums I have seen I think I want a nice dc02 the most. Scott |
Post# 280455 , Reply# 4   5/14/2014 at 07:43 (3,605 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Me neither! While it may not be quite as powerful as today's vacuums, it could be said that some modern cleaners are a tad too powerful, particularly if you attempt to use them on maximum speed while vacuuming carpet. Certainly it had adequate suction for the job it was intended, otherwise there would be none still in use. And when you think back to 15 years ago, when these were on sale, they held their own quite nicely against much of what else was available at the time.
If you still have the filters, don't be afraid to gently vacuum them off with a dusting brush and soak them in a warm solution of biological washing powder. Strictly speaking this is verboten, but as long as you don't scrub them or otherwise degrade the filtering material, they will quite safely tide you over in the meantime until a new set is on the cards. |
Post# 280483 , Reply# 6   5/14/2014 at 12:08 (3,605 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280507 , Reply# 7   5/14/2014 at 15:45 (3,605 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Very nice! Grey cyclone shroud too! Is that an early one? I have an issue though, I think its the cyclone release valves. Can anyone confirm how they go together |
Post# 280630 , Reply# 10   5/15/2014 at 16:12 (3,604 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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That oldest DC02 floor tool? I find it good, but the best is the DC08 contact head |
Post# 280701 , Reply# 11   5/16/2014 at 02:10 (3,604 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280720 , Reply# 13   5/16/2014 at 08:41 (3,603 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280745 , Reply# 14   5/16/2014 at 13:29 (3,603 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I was going to buy one of manchestervacs bnib ones but using it I imagine it will stop dead as soon as I put it on the carpet! |
Post# 280753 , Reply# 15   5/16/2014 at 15:14 (3,603 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280760 , Reply# 16   5/16/2014 at 16:21 (3,603 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Oooh is that a clear cable too? Its nice but I think mines repairable. It stays out if I don't pull it fully out, then a bit goes back in and then it stays! |
Post# 280782 , Reply# 17   5/16/2014 at 18:59 (3,603 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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My DC02 came with new ish tools too! Mien cost £1.20 from eBay in September 2012. I miss it, it was a good vacuum to be honest, but I Prefer the DC01 as it was an upright and a childhood vac |
Post# 280825 , Reply# 19   5/17/2014 at 05:36 (3,603 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280858 , Reply# 21   5/17/2014 at 15:56 (3,602 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Yea I like the DC08 contact head. That's a really good idea re the dc08 handle, but I think I'd rather have a DC08 as a daily driver than a DC02. I'd have to put a longer hose on the 08 though! |
Post# 280864 , Reply# 22   5/17/2014 at 17:05 (3,602 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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May have just added some filters to an order of bearings I just made... |
Post# 280866 , Reply# 23   5/17/2014 at 17:12 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280867 , Reply# 24   5/17/2014 at 17:14 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280868 , Reply# 25   5/17/2014 at 17:16 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280924 , Reply# 27   5/18/2014 at 03:21 (3,602 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 280967 , Reply# 29   5/18/2014 at 16:43 (3,601 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Is that why the DC02 has more suction? and I guess you can import a DC02, maybe a Destijl or a clear one? :D |
Post# 280992 , Reply# 30   5/18/2014 at 19:50 (3,601 days old) by titaniciscool (Nampa, ID)   |   | |
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So are the filters they take similar in any way? Like would a Dyson pre motor filter fit the Lightning? |
Post# 281003 , Reply# 31   5/18/2014 at 20:34 (3,601 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Are a UNIVERSE apart, The Fantom's a quality machine and the Dyson is not!
In the early 1980s SC Johnson Wax was licensed the use of Dyson's Dual-Cyclonic technology, and produced a bagless commercial machine called the Vectron. In the Early 1990s, Iona of Canada began to produce this same model as the Fantom Thunder. The Thunder was a beast of a carpet cleaning, very well built bagless vacuum cleaner (Remember, This model was originally designed as a Commercial machine!) The Thunder was a hit in America, it was the best Bagless on the market (In my opinion, It even beat Dyson!). Despite the Rainbow guy above going on about Fantom being in-efficient, The Thunder was an excellent vacuum. The Handle-Hose was a beloved first for the Vacuum market. Soon the cheaper Fury model was released, being slightly cheaper and less efficient than the Thunder. There was also the rarely-seen Lightning canister, the companion to the Thunder upright. The Cyclone XT (Which had a Stainless-Steel motor pre-filter in the top of the Cyclonic assembly!) appeared in the late 1990s. Dyson approached Fantom (Remeber-Fantom had been licensing Dyson's Dual-Cyclonic technology!) with his "M.E.M.A" Filter (Maximum Efficiency, Maximum Airflow). Dyson wanted Fantom to use these filters on their vacuums. Fantom said NO, As Fantom loved to sell expensive (But worth it for such a great vacuum!) HEPA filters. Dyson then pulled his licensing agreement, sending Fantom to produce cheaper, Single-Cyclone vacuums, The most memorable being the Wildcat. The Wildcat was all-around terrible. It clogged easily and filtered badly. Even worse, Westinghouse produced a CORDLESS Wildcat, Which also did not fair well. These cheap uprights, combined with problematic circuit boards in the Wildcat and Cyclone XT, plus Fantom not honoring warranty claims lead Fantom to bankruptcy in October 2001. The Thunder and Fury models were made to the end, With the Fury also being made in "Special Edition", And even "Special Special Edition" Models. These specials models, along with most Fantoms, Are considered Uncommon to rare by today's standards. After Fantom left the scene, Dyson appeared in America in 2002 with the DC07 models. America (For whatever reason!) took to Dyson the same way it took to the beloved Fantoms. Unfortunately, They did not find the same quality or performance they had with Fantom. Today Dyson is considered the status symbol of many American (And Britanica) homes. People prove their $$$$$ by blowing it on the latest Dyson model, then showing it off to neighbors and friends. Dyson then makes himself rich by charging insane amounts for these plastic status symbols, because people will pay that price. If people bought vacuums over quality instead of bagless status symbols, there would not be a Dyson today. Fantom is STILL the best Bagless Upright Vacuum Cleaner The vacuum market has ever seen.
Fantom had a great run, it is a Company I've missed.
To answer your question, in no ways will the DC02 Filter fit the Lightning, that's like saying you can fit a Toyota Prius engine into a Ford Falcon (Dyson being the Prius!). Importing a DC02 would be insanity, and why would you go through the troubles of importing when there's better Fantoms sitting in thrift stores and vacuum shops somewhere?
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Post# 281017 , Reply# 33   5/18/2014 at 21:03 (3,601 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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I've owned the full-kit and regular DC07, Both with clutches. The full-kit's plastic busted everywhere, including the handle release and nozzle suction thingy. The Thunder has NEVER broken a plastic thing to my knowledge, along with whooping the DC07 and a DC14 in a cleaning competition!
Be careful with importing, be sure to put it to test against the Fantom Lightning . |
Post# 281018 , Reply# 34   5/18/2014 at 21:07 (3,601 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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I imagine there won't be much competition there! The thunder sure was tough as it was originally designed for commercial use.
Do you own any amway vacuums by chance? Now THERE is a brute cyclonic vacuum! Scott |
Post# 281021 , Reply# 35   5/18/2014 at 21:13 (3,601 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Is the other Brute of the Bagless cleaners. I've been looking into buying one, When I do I'll put it up against the Fantom and Dyson!
Amway went to license Dyson's Dual-Cyclonic technology in the mid-1980s, only pulled out of the deal and essentially "Stole" the technology when they put the ClearTrak model intro production. Amway and Dyson eventually reached an agreement, and Amway was allowed to continue production. |
Post# 281022 , Reply# 36   5/18/2014 at 21:15 (3,601 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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Indeed, you will love it. Have you read dysons autobiography? Scott |
Post# 281084 , Reply# 38   5/19/2014 at 14:50 (3,600 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Noooo I want to keep the Dysons :P Just got a DC04 at the carboot yeterday! |
Post# 281097 , Reply# 39   5/19/2014 at 16:24 (3,600 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 281295 , Reply# 40   5/21/2014 at 09:01 (3,598 days old) by titaniciscool (Nampa, ID)   |   | |
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Would the dirt bin from a DC02 fit the Lightning? That way you can have the better inner cyclone and more airflow.... |
Post# 281362 , Reply# 41   5/21/2014 at 19:17 (3,598 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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Sadly no, from the pictures I have seen the bin connection is completely incompatible as the cyclone exit is designed differently. Believe me, I have wondered about all this before! |
Post# 281678 , Reply# 42   5/24/2014 at 15:53 (3,595 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Would you even TRY fitting a DYSON part to a FANTOM, or any vacuum for that matter! That poor Lightning would have the most shameful Cyclonic bin in the house!
The Lightning and Dyson DC02 are two completely diffrent designs. I don't know why you would want to fit a DC02 bin on the Lightning, It's already miles ahead of the DC02, or any Dyson for that matter! |
Post# 284705 , Reply# 44   6/15/2014 at 05:33 (3,574 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Dyson DC02's were Ametek and YDK, just like the DC01 |
Post# 284711 , Reply# 45   6/15/2014 at 06:07 (3,574 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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Thank you for the info |
Post# 285704 , Reply# 46   6/21/2014 at 18:07 (3,567 days old) by dyson89 (Norfolk, UK)   |   | |
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Could someone please explain how to remove the 2 pedal switches on a DC02? For the power and cable reel. Also how do you get the big central button release out of it's bracket for getting the lid off the cyclone basically. |
Post# 285709 , Reply# 47   6/21/2014 at 18:21 (3,567 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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