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Electrolux Model XXX Info Invitation
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Post# 280426   5/13/2014 at 23:55 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

A few hours ago I decided to check out some local thrift stores. At the last one of the three I found a Model XXX for $5.00, and since it was Half-Price Day I paid a grand total of $2.68! I don't have a camera, otherwise I'd post photos.

According to Charles Lester's website, it is a 1949-1951 version. Here are the details:

Top Front End Trim Info: Serial ID: H88463U
Bottom Front End Trim Info: Model XXX D. C. to 60 Cycles A. C. 115V - 535W
Addresses on inside cover: 500 5th Avenue, NY and 417 Montgomery St., CA
Canister top: Light gray reptilian-pattern leatherette
Canister bottom: Teal-colored wrinkle paint
Handle: Light gray
Bag Chamber Cover: Chrome
End Cap: Chrome
Air Filter: Black Foam
Flange: Chrome with saloon door exhaust louvres
Cord: detachable--generic light gray
Mobility Device: Round Runners mounted on body
Upholstery Tool: blue-gray bakelite
Dusting Brush: (none)
Bare Floor Tool: chrome and blue-gray bakelite
Carpet Flip Tool: chrome and blue-gray bakelite
Narrow Space Cleaner: blue-gray bakelite
Wand Sections: chrome
Hose: ivory-colored, generic vinyl with ivory pistol grip
Date of Original Purchase: unknown

Can anyone tell me if the brush plate of the floor tool should be chrome or blue-gray? The one that's in there now is chrome (with a gray rubber edge) and fits the holder, but doesn't align with the screw holes; so it is held on by two thick rubber bands. I'm also curious to know in which years the bakelite tools were made. I've understood that this was a necessity during WWII.

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I'm inviting Vacuumlanders to list their Electrolux Model XXX canisters on this thread with their serial IDs and descriptors like above in order to get a better idea of versions and their attributes. Please reply with your machines' and attachments' information--you can just copy and paste my information from above and edit it with your information. Depending on how this turns out we could do the same for later canister and tank models, too. Would be nice if we had Aerus/Electrolux salespersons in our midst who kept lists of serial ids according to years of manufacture from the Model XXX era up to the present.


Post# 280452 , Reply# 1   5/14/2014 at 06:38 (3,627 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
exactly so!

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The bakelite tools were made for the troops off at war had all the bullets needed to return victorious! Kirby didn't even make a new model during this time, would be hard to make a bakelite Kirby!Laughing


Post# 280457 , Reply# 2   5/14/2014 at 09:51 (3,627 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
war time

Kirby,and NO ONE, made a new model during WW II.Appliance companys could sell service and parts but no new appliances.This is why bakelite and other materials were used during and later.Electrolux continued operating by selling preferential contracts.That is, the customer makes a deposit and is then on the list for one of the first vacs available after the war.
I know someone in this area whose grandfather drove to Ohio during the war to buy a used electric stove as none could be found here.This would not have been an easy trip as gas and tires were rationed as well.
Back to Model XXXs does anyone have information on 'Branch Rebuilt' XXXs with tag riveted in front of handle?


Post# 280470 , Reply# 3   5/14/2014 at 11:20 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Thanks for the info, Jimmy. You don't happen to know which years the Electrolux tools were made from bakelite, do you? Since machines were not made from 1941-1945 I will take for granted that the attachments were made during the early part of the war for sale with machines that were in warehouses that had been made prior. I wonder when their machine stock ran out?

Regarding the Model X rebuilts, there is currently one on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electrolux-Model...

Photo of the REBUILT tag:


Post# 280473 , Reply# 4   5/14/2014 at 11:28 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Here's a photo of the entire machine (of REBUILT tag photo previously posted) with attachments. From what I can see the front cover, end cap, flange, and bottom were repainted in hammertone blue (likely done in the '50s); and it was equipped with a new cloth bag, power cord, and possibly hose (I'm unfamiliar with Model XXX hoses). I wonder if a 475-watt motor would have been replaced with a 535-watt one or if it would have been rebuilt?

Post# 280478 , Reply# 5   5/14/2014 at 12:01 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
1939 Electrolux model XXX

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Pre-War machines had FLAT runners

Post# 280479 , Reply# 6   5/14/2014 at 12:02 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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They also used a different filter

Post# 280480 , Reply# 7   5/14/2014 at 12:02 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The rear portion was "open"

Post# 280481 , Reply# 8   5/14/2014 at 12:03 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The model and serial and patent plates were ENGRAVED into the bottom of the machine

Post# 280482 , Reply# 9   5/14/2014 at 12:04 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The hose handle was different AND the machine included the drapery tool with bakelite bottom

Post# 280489 , Reply# 10   5/14/2014 at 12:45 (3,627 days old) by Vacosaurus (Cleveland ohio)        

Are these early pre war Electrolux motor filters available anywhere? Bill,

Post# 280503 , Reply# 11   5/14/2014 at 15:29 (3,627 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I have found one on eBay within the past 10 years I've been on it. Because Electrolux only made that filter for the first two years of the model XXX's production, the supply dried up a very long time ago.

Post# 280514 , Reply# 12   5/14/2014 at 16:56 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Thanks for posting the photos and the information, Tom.

Here are some more Model XXXs I found on Ebay:


Serial ID - X49789F, 535 Watts:


Post# 280515 , Reply# 13   5/14/2014 at 16:58 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - N24071D, 535 Watts:

Post# 280517 , Reply# 14   5/14/2014 at 17:00 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - P30233A, 475 Watts:

Post# 280520 , Reply# 15   5/14/2014 at 17:28 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - P14398F, 535 Watts:

Post# 280521 , Reply# 16   5/14/2014 at 17:36 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - H32341K, 535 Watts:

Post# 280523 , Reply# 17   5/14/2014 at 17:37 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - H86573N, 535 Watts:

Post# 280524 , Reply# 18   5/14/2014 at 17:39 (3,627 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Serial ID - X45460U, 475 Watts:

Post# 280526 , Reply# 19   5/14/2014 at 17:48 (3,627 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Jimmy,

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(May I call you Jimmy?)

 

What about the infamous 'XX' bare-bones model? It is believed to be a war-time model, or perhaps a very-bottom-of-line model?


Post# 280571 , Reply# 20   5/15/2014 at 09:59 (3,626 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Electrolux

Great pictures above showing why the XXX is at the top of any list of 'Classics'.(Reply 14 has wrong dust brush & 17 has wrong crevice.)
The company date on XX seems to be 1940 that would put it at the end of the 'normal' pre WWII world.Production of appliances,cars,etc would have stopped by about 1942.We might guess that this was to start a choice of good and better models from Elux that would not be seen again until XXX & LX about 1952.When production resumed sales were forecast to be huge for consumer goods.It might have been easier for mass production to make what they knew best(XXX)and they seem to have sold to post war customers who did not ask for cheaper version.
On the branch rebuilt is anyone aware of original price,rebuild/replacement procedure,different owners manual,etc?At this time there would have been fewer branches but with many salesmen covering large areas with many sales.Some salesmen not close to branch would send contracts by mail and receive new vacs and supplies by bus(a common way to ship packages then). One long time branch in this region had 15 minute times for each salesman to turn in contracts and receive check for previous week before the next one stepped up to counter with a hand full of contracts.Back to the branch rebuilts the service dept then could probably do polishing and motor rebuilds as well as the later factory rebuilts.


Post# 280579 , Reply# 21   5/15/2014 at 11:33 (3,626 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Model XX (20)

Post# 280795 , Reply# 22   5/16/2014 at 21:31 (3,624 days old) by Paul (USA)        

Thanks for the information, Jimmy. And, Tom, thanks for the photo of the Model XX! That looks like it's in awesome shape!

Here is another Model XXX on Ebay, Model N65892P/535 Watts (4.7 amps):


Post# 280796 , Reply# 23   5/16/2014 at 21:56 (3,624 days old) by Paul (USA)        

K39209V, 535 watts (4.7 amps):


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