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When is a Sebo Not a Sebo???
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Post# 278369   4/27/2014 at 14:01 (3,643 days old) by SeamusUk (Dover Kent UK)        

When it's an Ensign.... NIB bargain :)

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Post# 278373 , Reply# 1   4/27/2014 at 15:02 (3,643 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

A bargain is only ever a bargain if one actually needs it! There is a world of difference between a bargain and a low price. Did you buy it?

Post# 278374 , Reply# 2   4/27/2014 at 15:09 (3,643 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
A bargain is only ever a bargain if one actually needs it

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Well, not necessarily. If Seamus wanted one (regardless of whether he needed it or not - lets face it, do any of us really NEED all the vacuums we own?), then that is a very good price for a NIB model. To say Sebo x1.1's are retailing at £199, he essentially got it half price.

Nice one, Seamus. Get some snaps up when it arrives.


Post# 278376 , Reply# 3   4/27/2014 at 15:17 (3,643 days old) by SeamusUk (Dover Kent UK)        
Indeed...

Hi Chris
Of course I don't NEED it- same as I don't NEED John and Lewis........
But it's unusual- and appears to be based on the X1 as opposed to the 1.1....
I'm guessing the S1007 in the serial number may be the manufacturer(Sebo obviously) and the year/month?
Seamus


Post# 278377 , Reply# 4   4/27/2014 at 15:28 (3,643 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Nice find, Seamus. The Ensign Stealth is indeed the commercial version of the X1 Automatic. Check back previous thread www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

Post# 278379 , Reply# 5   4/27/2014 at 15:41 (3,643 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
same as I don't NEED John and Lewis

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I don't need a garage full of vacuums, but hey, I've got em :P

Post# 278431 , Reply# 6   4/27/2014 at 17:41 (3,643 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Nice find Seamus!


Post# 278546 , Reply# 7   4/28/2014 at 13:32 (3,642 days old) by richardlee1985 (Swindon, Wiltshire)        

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The Ensign Stealth 1 is technically identical to the SEBO automatic XP1. The Ensign Sensor 300 was the model identical to SEBO automatic X1

Post# 278726 , Reply# 8   4/30/2014 at 04:08 (3,640 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England, U.K.)        
Need??

The thread title caught my eye...... It gave me a slight sense of 'Deja Vu'... ;-)

I have a whole HOUSEFUL of things I don't actually NEED.... But I'm not planning on parting with any of them anytime soon. Some of them cost a LOT of money, too.... :-(

I do agree entirely with Vintagerepairer's philosophy. Unfortunately though, like most of us here, I frequently blur the line between 'want' and 'need'.. ;-)

All best

Dave T


Post# 279555 , Reply# 9   5/6/2014 at 15:08 (3,634 days old) by SeamusUk (Dover Kent UK)        
Impressions are good :)

Hi People
Well it arrived and was indeed brand new :)
Have upgraded the bag to the new Synthetic Sebo ones.
Just need to order the dusting brush/bracket now :)
Seamus


Post# 279588 , Reply# 10   5/6/2014 at 16:32 (3,634 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Thank you Dave.

I have lived my life by that moto. As I said when I wrote it, a "bargain" is not the same as a low price. A "bargin" is a description of something which one specifically needed and was able to source at a genuinely reasonable price. In my time I have met many people who purchased items which were only remotely like the item they needed and did so because the chose item was a "bargain" due to the lower than expected selling price. But when it turned out to not do the job it was needed for and had to be replaced, it highlighted the fact that cheap can be dear, that quality is remembered long after price is forgotton, and that, as I say, a bargain is only a bargain if it is needed.

Same applies to buying things which are not needed at all. A woman recently told me how much she had "saved" on what she bought in the January sales. She then went on to say she had no need for most of it. So I told her how much I'd saved by being a boring old man who had spent the day at home.

I am not trying to suggest that people should not spend their money as they choose, I am simply explaining the bare-bones of a bargain.



Post# 279598 , Reply# 11   5/6/2014 at 16:59 (3,634 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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A bargain to me is something that isn't always something that "is needed" or rather as the true definition goes "...a thing bought or offered for sale much more cheaply than is usual or expected..."

I think it is quite difficult to consider what is a bargain and what is not a bargain when you collect vacuums, or let alone collect anything in such a large amount.

I have spare Electrolux filters. I considered them a bargain at the amount I got for 45p when I bought them several years ago at a charity shop. I don't have the Electrolux model any more though, but I still consider them a bargain - I can give them to people who I know will benefit from those spares - or may use them on an Electrolux vacuum cleaner should I decide to buy another classic Electrolux again.

I wouldn't ever say they were a waste, even if they are not going to be used in the present.


Post# 279602 , Reply# 12   5/6/2014 at 17:08 (3,634 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Well you said it yourself, Sebo fan. You can "give" the parts away...not withstanding the amount you paid which was pennies, the bare bones of what I was saying is that it ultimatly cost you money as you're 45p down and gave away the parts. The real bargain was had by the person you gave them to.

Post# 279604 , Reply# 13   5/6/2014 at 17:21 (3,634 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Mmm yes and no.

I have the option to sell, give away or keep. Based on the fact that I have bought a quantity of use compared to a single purchase that gets used the once is a no-brainer.

Similarly if I see a new condition, never used vacuum cleaner that is no longer on sale any more, I may consider it to be a bargain, even if the buying price on auction sites may be higher than the actual cost it had when it was originally in production.

Therefore most vacuum cleaner collectors naturally buy more than one pack of dust bags or spare parts if the money can run to it. I can imagine most who own vintage vacs where genuine parts are hard to come by would snap up any quantity offered of genuine parts. Are those wasteful on money? No, not if owners themselves want to keep their machines intact.


Post# 279986 , Reply# 14   5/10/2014 at 10:02 (3,630 days old) by seamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Another non Sebo Sebo...

Hi Guys
This is a rare one over here. Sebo UK don't market the manual height control G series this is based on. Was amazed I was the only bidder !!
Seamus


Post# 279987 , Reply# 15   5/10/2014 at 10:02 (3,630 days old) by seamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Close up...

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Post# 280000 , Reply# 16   5/10/2014 at 11:31 (3,630 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I did look at this one, but decided against it as it looked heavily used.


Post# 280038 , Reply# 17   5/10/2014 at 15:44 (3,630 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The Ensign SM1/2 is quite popular in the UK - a lot of churches have them as well as other places. I've seen them being used in hospitals. I know a lot of independent cleaning companies can still buy them in, but brand new they can be pricey.

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