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Post# 277925   4/24/2014 at 08:25 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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So I wanted a cylinder vacuum with good attachments for doing the car and stairs as my lovely sebo felix with its short hose doesn't really cut it and my numatic George is a bit fiddly constantly changing from wet and dry. Preferably something with a turbo attachments as well.

Saw this new vax air powerhead with, you guessed it a powerhead, on the vax website for £149.99. Supposedly this was half price, reduced from £300. I would never pay £300 for this cleaner, which I will explain below, so whether it is really worth 150 or 300 depends on who you ask.

Apologise for the poor lighting. Was taken in the spare bedroom.




Post# 277926 , Reply# 1   4/24/2014 at 08:26 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Closer up

Post# 277927 , Reply# 2   4/24/2014 at 08:27 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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The relatively uncomfortable handle

Post# 277929 , Reply# 3   4/24/2014 at 08:28 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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And what gives this cleaner its name - the powerhead.

Post# 277932 , Reply# 4   4/24/2014 at 08:30 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Relatively good filtration system. It only collected a small amount of dirt from my 4 carpets I tested it on, two thins carpets and two plush pile, but there is hardly any dirt here so that is something.

Post# 277934 , Reply# 5   4/24/2014 at 08:32 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Now for the bad bits - the rest of it.

I say it has god filtration because I have used multi-cyclonci vacuums including other vax's and dyson and after one short use, they have brown/black spots where the cyclones are. This hasn't.

But the post motor heap filter flew off nearly as soon as I turned it on. It is flimsy and not very secure, in fact the whole unit doesn't feel well made, considering the price as well.


Post# 277936 , Reply# 6   4/24/2014 at 08:39 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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As for the rest of the cleaner. Well the pwoerhead is next to useless. It barely picks up surface dirt let alone groom the pile. The bristles are as soft of feathers - useless. It is only a 35 watt powerhead.

The machine itself is 1500 with 310 air watts of power, but I beg to differ. I don't know whether or not they test the air watts by a gauge that goes at the end of the hose, but the diameter of the hose is quite small, concentrating the suction. That's fine but put it on a large powerhead like this and it is rubbish. Doesn't lift the carpet at all.

As you can see below, the manufacturing quality isn't the best. If I did pay £300 I would be disappointed. The hose isn't very flexible, the cord is quite short and it just doesn't feel like a quality product. Yeah it has a 6 year guarantee but I think something would snap off before the 6 years is up. Maybe I hav been spoiled by the quality and performance of the sebo.

It is pretty poor. Some people have written reviews of this all of which are 5 star. I can't see how this is a 5 star product, maybe that's just me. There are some review of the zen powerhead in Australia how complain about the same things I have. Maybe the aussies are more honest, I don't know and wouldn't like to say :/


Post# 277985 , Reply# 7   4/24/2014 at 11:10 (3,648 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Lordy for what you paid you could have bought a base model SEBO K1 Airbelt. They're super for the tight spaces. The K1 Komfort or Pet model at £200 comes with additional tools and a longer hose.

Post# 277988 , Reply# 8   4/24/2014 at 11:17 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Probably will get a K1 or something along those lines to be honest.

Post# 277990 , Reply# 9   4/24/2014 at 11:20 (3,648 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
you could have bought a base model SEBO K1 Airbelt

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or a Henry for £99.00.

Or better yet, for £37, the extra long 3 metre hose to fit George


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK


Post# 277991 , Reply# 10   4/24/2014 at 11:25 (3,648 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well I was thinking that since you have tools from your other SEBO, Oli - you can combine and add versatility.

George is a brute - he's good but he's heavy to keep carting out to the car. I used to have a Charles for a few years but he was too bulky for the home and kept falling over 'cos of his added height. I eventually sold Charles and got as much as I paid for him!


Post# 277992 , Reply# 11   4/24/2014 at 11:25 (3,648 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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These are all good options.

I got the air powerhead because it looked quite interesting, had a large bagless tank. I don't usually like bagless cleaners like a lot of people on here but I thought if its only gonna be for the cars and stairs what the worst? Also initially looked interesting having the powerhead. They are rubbish though.


Post# 277993 , Reply# 12   4/24/2014 at 11:27 (3,648 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I've got the 2.5 metre hose from Henry that I use on George for the car. I just leave him by the drivers door and it reaches all the way round.

Post# 277995 , Reply# 13   4/24/2014 at 11:43 (3,648 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Glad I didn't buy the Air Powerhead, considering it was £149.99 & I had the £50 off voucher code.

Post# 277998 , Reply# 14   4/24/2014 at 12:03 (3,648 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yep I used to do the same with my Charles vac. When I think about it, I think Numatic added one of those clips on the machine for the crevice tool to slide onto as a storer but that's the main problem there - Numatics don't have much tool storage unless you have a James model - and that's what I owned for many years as the open top was great for a variety of cleaning tools for the car.

Post# 278000 , Reply# 15   4/24/2014 at 12:04 (3,648 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Infact the clip eventually broke off.

Post# 278069 , Reply# 16   4/24/2014 at 16:26 (3,647 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

Nope I wouldn't pay anything for it, mainly because I have an aversion for vax, I think they are cheap and nasty.

I agree, you could have got a Henry or a miele s2. At least they'll last longer than a month with nothing inevitably breaking off!


Post# 278076 , Reply# 17   4/24/2014 at 16:49 (3,647 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I am so glad I bought the Hotpoint instead of this or the regular Air Cylinder.

Post# 278088 , Reply# 18   4/24/2014 at 17:18 (3,647 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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I don't usually like vax. I found their cleaners to be cheaply made with soft bristles and next to no agitation and quite an unprofessional customer service but I thought id give this a shot as like I said, for what I needed it for and it had a powerhead, but certainly not going near vax until they really sort themselves out. They are improving with some models, like the air 3 has quite a stiff brushroll, but they need to address other factors as well.

I will probably get a base model k3.


Post# 278092 , Reply# 19   4/24/2014 at 17:31 (3,647 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Base K3? Or you mean K1 Airbelt?

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Well if you get the K3, Oli I don't think you get as much flexibility with the K series - the electric cord embedded inside the hose to carry the current from the electric handle is okay to use - but for getting around corners in the car, the lighter hose from the non-electric handles are far easier in my opinion. Also I've suffered a clogged bit of paper in the embedded hose before and its a right chore getting it out, even at high suction. The non-cord hoses are so much easier and much lighter to use.

Post# 278117 , Reply# 20   4/24/2014 at 19:16 (3,647 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I think the USA version of the Air Pro has a better PN; why don't the UK have more PN choices like here in the USA?  Many of Hoover USA's cyclonic canisters have a wide range of PNs


Post# 278139 , Reply# 21   4/25/2014 at 01:15 (3,647 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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K1 airbelt, my mistake.

Post# 278146 , Reply# 22   4/25/2014 at 03:14 (3,647 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Erik, cylinder vacuums with PN's have never been popular here. We have had them, but usually just 1 per line up and they were the TOL and quite pricey.

Uprights have always been considerably more popular here. In recent years, cylinders with air driven turbo brushes have become more popular due to the increase in populatiry in laminate flooring, but uprights are still more common.


Post# 278155 , Reply# 23   4/25/2014 at 07:41 (3,647 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO)        
UK-US vac differences

Oddly, we have mostly uprights in the US too. It's the suction-only canisters we mostly don't get, and if you do want one, it's usually a high-end brand: Sebo, Riccar, Miele, etc.

Post# 278163 , Reply# 24   4/25/2014 at 09:42 (3,647 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

That looks awful! Typical Vax though

Post# 278171 , Reply# 25   4/25/2014 at 13:30 (3,647 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

That Powerhead must perform pretty badly if it got that tiny amount out of 4 carpets!

Post# 278174 , Reply# 26   4/25/2014 at 13:48 (3,647 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Jade - that is bizarre. I'd have thought with the U.S having such a large market that accessories like suction only floor heads would be available to buy.

However judged purely by looking at EBAY.com it seems there simply aren't that many sellers who are stocking in suction only floor heads to offer as a single, additional purchase for any PN added vacuum cleaner. That must be pretty frustrating.


Post# 278175 , Reply# 27   4/25/2014 at 13:50 (3,647 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The implications are obvious - if you can't buy a single suction only floor head to add as an additional cleaning tool for your PN added canister vac - no wonder there is a market for the suction only mains power stick vacuums - another market that the UK doesn't benefit that much from.

Post# 278260 , Reply# 28   4/26/2014 at 07:05 (3,646 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

I had a hoover canister that I just recently sold that used the same hose, wand, and powerhead. I really hated the set up, the hose is really hard to work with and the PN is just "ugh". Hoover US have discontinued that particular set up and replaced it with the air mini canister with a much better looking PN, hose, etc.

 

Sebofan, you are absolutely right. There is a shortage of good suction only canisters here and suction only floor heads are not avalible for most machines. Even if they were you would still have the heavier hose to deal with and for a lot of "canister" jobs I really prefer a suction only machine.

Scott



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