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| Post# 277328 , Reply# 1 4/20/2014 at 17:18 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
I've got a Miele S7 which I've now had for 16 months which before I got it was a choice between the S7 or SEBO X4. I did get the S7 at a good price at the time think that swung it slightly. It is big and heavy which I knew that beforehand.
PLUS Points: Pickup is excellent Grooms carpets very well Great suction/airflow Filtration great You can upgrade or down grade the post filter from standard, charcoal or HEPA Bag fills to top with no noticeable drop in performance Inboard tools and telescope hose and wand are great MINUS Points: Bags can be expensive (4 in a box plus 1 pre and 1 post filter) Part are expensive to replace (not that Ive had to yet but looking into parts their not cheap!) The brush roll can not be removed from the machine so removing threads or a blockage around that area is not very accessible. If you had a blockage not very easy to remove parts other than the hose which also has a remove able plate using a screw driver The foot pedal I've seen on others is prone to issues! Overall it's a great vacuum cleaner and does the job but I do wish I had got the SEBO X4 instead. I'm looking at selling my S7 for an X4. Although I knew it was big and heavy as time goes on I'm finding it more unwieldy to use the SEBO X4 to me looks more intuitive to use and user maintenance is simpler and replaceable parts are cheaper and has great build quality IMO. I took at an extra guarantee to extent the manufacturers warranty up to 10 years but now I'm looking at selling have managed to cancel it and get the full money back as not claimed on it! Miele did a report on filtration testing against a select number of uprights against their S7 and the SEBO X4 was part of it and they said the X4 was one of the worst for filtration out of them all!! I was surprised about that I thought SEBO had great filtration as well probably not as high as Miele but still very high! | ||
| Post# 277332 , Reply# 3 4/20/2014 at 17:42 (3,657 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC) | ||
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Btw Who ever this sales rep is : he or she is misinformed : There is not a Bagless vacuum that filters better than the Sebo X5 , Not in my experience so far in the vacuum business . :)) | ||
Post# 277337 , Reply# 4 4/20/2014 at 18:19 (3,657 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Ihave the HOOVER
Clearly not HOOVER's finest hour, but.. it is nice. I hate the handle realease on the "wrong side"... Always been on the left. Many people break them, thinking it's still on the left. You plug it in and the light goes on. I KNOW there's power. I plugged it in. But, it IS a nice vacuum.
Large hepa bag! bright light! | ||
| Post# 277359 , Reply# 7 4/21/2014 at 04:58 (3,657 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Your welcome s2_82. I think the SEBO is definitely easier to service and parts are easy to replace by the user. Parts, bags, filters are cheaper to replace too. I agree with beerad go for the SEBO X5!
I can't see a bagless vacuum filtering any better than a SEBO. I believe the S-Class filter is the same or similar to US HEPA Filter. You can in the US upgrade to a HEPA filter on the SEBO X Series if you want from the standard S-Class or Charcoal Filters. Not sure if you can get it separate but on the SEBO US website it comes as part of the service box. The HEPA Filter is only available I believe for SEBO X Series in the US. I used to own bagless vacuums and agree with you s2_82 they are messy to own and maintain some more than others. I don't miss the filter washing, and emptying a messy dusty bin. Some users don't mind though! | ||
| Post# 277362 , Reply# 8 4/21/2014 at 05:37 (3,657 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Hi s2_82
Contrary to the name I'm a fan of SEBOS and Miele vacuums - but not all. I found the S7 to be a great modern design but the pedal to carpet from hard floors annoyed me no end, the design was bulky in my UK home and I initially had problems with the telescopic suction tube that used to seize up. The S7 is super quiet, super modern - the SEBO is commercial, old school even if it is a domestic model under the SEBO X5 name. As for filtration - it doesn't surprise me that Miele produces a report to show other brands in a poor light. At the moment my Miele S8340 has an Active Air Clean filter designed for "smokers and pet owners." Well, there's a slight smell of pet hair coming through it, so it isn't exactly delivering its promise. | ||
| Post# 277371 , Reply# 9 4/21/2014 at 09:23 (3,657 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA) | ||
I Think..
that the riccar would be a great vacuum i have one and it has been 9 years since we got it and it is issue free. It is an excellent vacuum for carpeting and filters air very well. Over all a very good choice. The sebo and windsor are very solid machine that clean well and will maintain power, an equally good choice.
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| Post# 277373 , Reply# 10 4/21/2014 at 09:53 (3,657 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
The Maytag M1200 is a better choice (to me) than the Riccar Radiance. It's less expensive by hundreds of dollars, has the very long hose and full length wand, inexpensive to maintain as the repair parts are very reasonable in price, and excellent performance for carpet and above floor cleaning. It's a tandem-air machine, which means it has 2 suction motors (unlike any other upright on the market) for intense carpet cleaning. The Maytag is made in St. James, MO in the same factory as the Radiance. It's a brand new design, whereas the Radiance is a 10 year old design. Be sure to check out the Maytag M1200.
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| Post# 278221 , Reply# 15 4/25/2014 at 20:02 (3,652 days old) by ctvacman (CT) | ||
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@s2. 82 Maytag a are built by tacony, so same factory as riccar and simplicity | ||
| Post# 278224 , Reply# 16 4/25/2014 at 20:43 (3,652 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Any Tandem 
Air Tacony will out clean Sebo . I own one of the first red Radience and have owned it for at least ten years and have had ZERO problems the machine works like brand new . Sealed filtration and direct air
And bypass = tandem air the machines can't be beat . I prefer my Riccar over my Miele S7 and sold my Sebo essential G . Go with the Maytag great vacuums at great prices . Dan 
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| Post# 278238 , Reply# 17 4/25/2014 at 22:22 (3,652 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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Good point there Dan, thanks.. awesome looking machine there! | ||
| Post# 280585 , Reply# 24 5/15/2014 at 11:57 (3,633 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 280586 , Reply# 25 5/15/2014 at 11:59 (3,633 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The now discontinued Riccar 8955 on left. It's replacement, the Riccar R20UP (ultra premium) on right. The Ultra Premium has the same double fan, double ball bearing high efficiency motor as the 8955, but adds a far longer hose, and a lifetime belt.
If anyone wants to discuss Tacony products, you can call the Factory Outlet Store at 573-265-0680 M - F 9-5. I'll answer any questions you might have. 
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| Post# 281725 , Reply# 26 5/24/2014 at 23:04 (3,623 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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I'd defniltey like to hear Tom Gasko's opinion on the new Riccar R20UP. I'm definitely considering this same, exact machine. I've been having trouble reaching him at the factory outlet during those times lately. | ||
| Post# 282035 , Reply# 29 5/27/2014 at 14:03 (3,621 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The new Ultra Premium is a fantastic vacuum. The double fan motor has the suction power that's built to impress. The silver S20UP or the red R20UP are superior vacuums to almost anything except the Tandem Air designs.
Colby is a very intelligent individual and it was my pleasure to not only help a fellow vacuum cleaner collector with a new machine, but I enjoyed speaking to him as well. He really knows his vacuums.
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| Post# 282119 , Reply# 31 5/28/2014 at 11:20 (3,620 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The Tandem-Air models have a height adjustment, and the suction fan of the first motor is inches from the carpet. For high pile carpet (like Frieze), I recommend a Tandem-Air cleaner. The Ultra Premium is a fantastic by-pass type vacuum, recommended for people who want to be able to pick up hard particles (like rocks from a gravel driveway for example) with no fear of damage to the cleaner.
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| Post# 282183 , Reply# 32 5/28/2014 at 21:00 (3,619 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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Just a very big shout-out and thanks to Tom for all his patience answering my questions about the machine. I decided to order. I'm excited... my first Tacony machine. | ||
| Post# 282327 , Reply# 33 5/29/2014 at 20:12 (3,618 days old) by ctvacman (CT) | ||
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Congrats Which tacony model did you end up picking. | ||
| Post# 282368 , Reply# 34 5/30/2014 at 13:44 (3,618 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio) | ||
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Thanks Colby I went with the Riccar R20UP pictured above in red. | ||
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