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Post# 27193   12/15/2007 at 16:34 (5,976 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

I've just about finished revamping the neglected Junior page on my website: new pictures, new info, patent documents, 3 new videos showing upright and tool use...

Notice also that I have finally worked out how to embed videos on the site, in each appropriate section.

Hope you all like it :)


CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK


Post# 27195 , Reply# 1   12/15/2007 at 16:41 (5,975 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I like those, especially the one on the right.

Post# 27196 , Reply# 2   12/15/2007 at 16:42 (5,975 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Jack...

Well done! I am impressed with the completeness and the excellent condition of your machines. I have to say that I really like the first Junior model the best. It seems more stylish!

--Tom


Post# 27197 , Reply# 3   12/15/2007 at 16:45 (5,975 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
I agree...

I prefer the 370, too. Maybe one design Dreyfuss should have left alone? lol

Post# 27217 , Reply# 4   12/15/2007 at 18:37 (5,975 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Very, very lovely. I've always admired the 375 and would love to have one. So, here are two more machines we can add to the list of Dreyfuss hoovers then.



Post# 27227 , Reply# 5   12/15/2007 at 20:04 (5,975 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Excellant

Awesome presentation, I too like the 370, would like to have one. I can only hope for attachments for my 115 for now.
Norm


Post# 27232 , Reply# 6   12/15/2007 at 20:59 (5,975 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Completeness

I've been quite lucky in finding all the bits and pieces to go with each cleaner. I haven't yet found a manual for the 370 - there was one on eBay a few months ago, but as expected, it went for a huge price.

However, I have just bought this nice box for the 375:


Post# 27256 , Reply# 7   12/16/2007 at 08:29 (5,975 days old) by 74simon ()        
hey Jack,

Thanks for your update, I never knew the 375 and 119 were Dreyfuss designs. I guess the 1334 was as well? Great research as ever :-)

Si


Post# 27268 , Reply# 8   12/16/2007 at 09:54 (5,975 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The 1334:

I have a feeling it may have been, but I don't seem to have the pdf. of the patent documents in my collection - it might just be that I forgot to save them when I was doing the research.

Glad you like the page!


Post# 27280 , Reply# 9   12/16/2007 at 12:30 (5,975 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover - Who Better!!!

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HI Jack, excellent, very informative as usual, all slightly different sounds, just listen to those beater bars...I hadnt known about Dreyfuss with these models as well, nice work...

Cheers, Mike


Post# 27464 , Reply# 10   12/19/2007 at 06:34 (5,972 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The box arrives:

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Post# 27465 , Reply# 11   12/19/2007 at 06:35 (5,972 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Side on:

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Post# 27466 , Reply# 12   12/19/2007 at 06:36 (5,972 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The back:

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Post# 27467 , Reply# 13   12/19/2007 at 06:37 (5,972 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The complete ensemble:

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Post# 27483 , Reply# 14   12/19/2007 at 10:02 (5,972 days old) by buffster ()        
Beautiful Machines

Congrats on some excellent finds! They appear to be in mint condition. Either that or they photograph very well. It's amazing what is still out there yet to be found. That gives us all hope.

Mike


Post# 27492 , Reply# 15   12/19/2007 at 14:51 (5,972 days old) by vintagevacs4me ()        
Excellent Site & Pictures!

Jack, i just had to add my two pence in and say i truly enjoyed your site! You have some beautiful machines there. By the way, i have to ask. Will machines from England run on our US electric current? I think the answer is no, but I'm not sure. I've always wanted to add some British versions of Hoover and Electrolux to my collection. But what would be the point if i couldn't run them. Again, love the site! Paul {also a big Cory fan}!

Post# 27495 , Reply# 16   12/19/2007 at 15:03 (5,972 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
UK vacs in the US

Hey Paul

They will runs but only at half power from a 110V supply so you have 2 options

1. A step up transformer/converter

2. Classic vacs with no electronics should run fine from a 220/240V outlet of the type used for dryers etc- you just need a dryer plug attached to a extension cord with a UK female trailing socket attached.

Seamus


Post# 27511 , Reply# 17   12/19/2007 at 22:35 (5,971 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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LOL - Ok I just have to jump in on this one. If you are going to use a dryer socket attach the dryer cord to a 2 circuit electric panel then use 2 15 amp breakers to the european socket from there. Otherwise there is a very real fire hazzard in the case of a possible short as you are running wire that is only rated for 13 or 15 amps on a 30 amp circuit. The only possible exception is the newer style fused UK plugs and even then it would be safer using the panel as the breakers also give you a power disconnect.

Post# 27524 , Reply# 18   12/20/2007 at 04:22 (5,971 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Good point

If you use a UK plug the maximum fuse rating is 13A- its possible to use a 5A for most classic vacs and somrthing like a Hoover Junior is fine with a 3A

Seamus


Post# 27525 , Reply# 19   12/20/2007 at 04:45 (5,971 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
UK plugs

Si (74simon on here) has a section on his website devoted to em!

Seamus


CLICK HERE TO GO TO seamusuk's LINK


Post# 27526 , Reply# 20   12/20/2007 at 05:03 (5,971 days old) by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia)        
UK Voltage from US Socket??

I noticed you're all talking about the amperage capability of the circuit and the fuse rating. I don't think a vacuum cleaner is ever going to draw that much current, so I don't think the fuses are the main issue.

Isn't the voltage also important? There's a lot of information about the US dryer circuits over on automaticwasher.org. I'm in Australia, where 240V, single phase is the stanard. Maybe I have it wrong, but my understanding is that the US "220" volt dryer circuit is actually two 120V phases cabled through a common plug with common "neutral" connector. You're essentially getting the capacity of two separate 110V circuits through a single plug/cord combination. I therefore can't think how you could wire the US 220V recepticle in a way that would deliver 220V to anything. My hunch is that at best you'll end up with 110V available for your vintage vac, which is just the same as plugging it into an standard US domestic socket.

If I have this all wrong (which is certainly on the cards), could somebody explain how the US dryer circuits really work? I've assumed you're actually using one phase to drive the motor and maybe a small heating element, and the other to drive a second, larger element, giving heaps of energy available to achieve a quick drying time.


Post# 27607 , Reply# 21   12/21/2007 at 09:28 (5,970 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi:

The way the electricity works over here (Canada and US) we actually do use a 240 V system, single phase, for homes. The transformer provides 240V on the low side of the coil which is center tapped to ground. The center tap (neutral connection) basically splits the voltage in half giving you 120V between either hot leg and the neutral. You still, however, have 240V between the two hot legs. (see the diagram below). This allows for appliances in the home (such as dryers, stoves, air conditioners etc) which use 240 V while the bulk of the house still is on 120V.

We do also use 3 phase systems in industrial areas which give 120 / 208 V service but this isnt as common as the 240 /380 V system which is used in Europe even in alot of homes.

Hope I made that understandable
Doug


Post# 27609 , Reply# 22   12/21/2007 at 09:36 (5,970 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        
Re: Simons pages

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Hi Seamus:

Would you (or anyone else here) have a contact address for Simon? I cant find one on his pages and I have a fair bit of information he could add to his page. As most of you know I can be reached at mjdkas@hotmail.com

Doug


Post# 27646 , Reply# 23   12/22/2007 at 00:17 (5,969 days old) by aussie-plugs (Melbourne, Australia)        
US 240V Explained

Hi Doug,

Thanks for the diagram - it all makes a lot more sense to me now.

Nick


Post# 27706 , Reply# 24   12/22/2007 at 20:06 (5,968 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Nick:

No problem. You might be interested to know that the first grounded plugs used in Canada were actually the same crowsfoot plugs that are in use in Australia. It didnt go over well as people kept just cutting off the prong and twisting the pins so they would fit normal outlets. This led to the adoption of the ones we use now instead.

Doug



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